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Central to Mahayana Buddhism. Egolessness and nontheism key to realizing buddha nature, and enlightenment. Sitting practice only way of understanding nonexistence, consistent with Kagyu lineage of personal discipline and experience, exertion, surrendering. Meditation uncovers \"untapped\" areas of neurosis we would like to hide, but examining only way of working with oneself. Called \"compassion\", having warmth toward one's neurosis, leads to discovery of buddha nature. Emphasizes gentleness that arises from nontheism, \"real genuine warmth to oneself\" that extends to the world. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses meaning of exertion and surrendering; buddha nature and glimpses of warmth; functional talking and pitfalls of habitual ways of speaking; origins of sitting practice in the Kagyu lineage; how his teaching approach contrasts with Kalu Rinpoche's; and practical guidelines for how much to sit each day.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 01 2019 to Sep 17 2023 Transcribing: Matilda Perks Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAn exceptionally clear, precise talk about buddha nature and what it is. Central to Mahayana Buddhism. Egolessness and nontheism key to realizing buddha nature, and enlightenment. Sitting practice only way of understanding nonexistence, consistent with Kagyu lineage of personal discipline and experience, exertion, surrendering. Meditation uncovers \"untapped\" areas of neurosis we would like to hide, but examining only way of working with oneself. Called \"compassion\", having warmth toward one's neurosis, leads to discovery of buddha nature. Emphasizes gentleness that arises from nontheism, \"real genuine warmth to oneself\" that extends to the world. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses meaning of exertion and surrendering; buddha nature and glimpses of warmth; functional talking and pitfalls of habitual ways of speaking; origins of sitting practice in the Kagyu lineage; how his teaching approach contrasts with Kalu Rinpoche's; and practical guidelines for how much to sit each day.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Discovery of Buddha Nature: The Mahayana Path, held at Padma Jong in Dos Rios, California. This is talk number two, October 11th, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is talk number two from the seminar on The Discovery of Buddha Nature, given by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche at Padma Jong near Dos Rios, California, on October 11th, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=0.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we should continue what we discussed last night, with your approval. The question of buddha nature is very important, in particularly Buddhism that is influenced by mahayana, \"The Great Vehicle,\" and its working situations with the rest of the benevolence approach to reality in the Buddhist style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=55.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, that question of buddha nature can only develop by realizing and understanding the basic principles of egolessness. Without that -- egolessness -- basic notion of enlightenment is very hard to come by, so to speak. On those grounds, also that the spirituality or religiosity of Mahayana Buddhism cannot exist without understanding the notion of nontheistic traditions, which Buddhism seem to be basically speaking, basically involved. With-- on the foundations of nontheism, on the foundations of non-ego, which seem to be basic notion of nontheism in any case, that we could establish some kind of ground of understanding buddha nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=104.0,187.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And buddha nature is nature that exist in us. I don't know whether-- I don't think I should be using word \"exist\", particularly. Buddha nature is the nature that is *not* in or out us; something like that. We have a linguistic problem here. But basic nature of buddha quality in us is a result of realizing sense of nonexistence in ourselves. Which are divided by two types of approaches: nonexistence of *ourselves* -- as Joe Schmidt or whatever you may be; and nonexistence in the fundamental world. That world that we live and work with -- the popular world, world of supermarkets, world of gas stations, and the world of highways, and the world of \"yes” and “no,\" that familiar world -- that particular world also doesn't exist, to your surprise. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=187.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not particularly a cute joke. Although you're welcome to take humor out of it-- in it; you're welcome, highly welcome, in that. But it's not designed to be a joke with a punchline particularly. It may be a joke, but somehow without a punchline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=301.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Its basic existence, of that kind of egolessness, is that we find not only that *we* do not exist, alone, but others don't exist, either. You could say, \"What do you mean by that? I know I do exist. I am here.\" That's just purely geographical locations. Fundamentally, you are not here. You are not here, at all. That's not regarded as insult, or encouragement, at all. That's just natural state of existence. If you are here, your world would be extremely *crowded*. That you couldn't be *here*; you could hardly speak or talk or walk, eat, because you're so heavily loaded with your own existence. Just like an overfed Chinese pig; overfed turkey or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=333.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason why we can function and we become fluid, so to speak, is because that we are not *here*, per se. We don't actually exist; therefore we exist. That's a very extraordinarily famous statement made by Nagarjuna, who says that, \"My discipline is non-discipline. My philosophy is non-philosophy. Therefore I can state my particular reference point in this particular philosophy, and willing to argue.\" Quote, quote. And precisely in the same way, what we are saying here is that our existence, as such -- that while we think what we exist is questionable, and we feel what we exist is also questionable -- but on the other hand beyond that level, that there's some kind of sense of existence which is independent of a reference point of existence, existential point of view, shall we say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=446.0,563.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Realization of that kind of non-existence is supposed to be realization of freedom, ultimate salvation. There's no way to understand that particularly; only way to understand that is lots of sitting practice of meditation. Our tradition of the Kagyu lineage, particularly, are renowned for its own practicing lineage. Discipline in our own way, personal discipline, personal experience. And that's what you-- all of you are here, to join that particular tradition of practicing lineage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=563.0,626.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular practicing lineage is based on a immense sense of exertion, sense of training, sense of surrendering; immense sense of surrendering, immense sense of training, opening, evolving constantly, through the media of sitting practice of meditation, to begin with. Without that, there's no heart, or brain, or basic core of sanity. Without basic sitting practice of meditation, there's no way out -- or way *in*, for that matter. Sitting practice of meditation becomes extraordinarily important, because that you-- that creates a sense of celebration; that also creates a sense of getting to the deep water. And also that creates a sense of *leap*, beyond a cliff. And also creates a sense of the rug is pulled under your feet, simultaneously. That kind of sitting practice of meditation is *the* and *only* way that we know; the only way to develop enlightenment. If one is searching for enlightenment, that also have to given up nevertheless, on the other hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=626.0,754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Discovering buddha nature in us is based on intensity of-- or the exertion of sitting practice of meditation, basically. There's a lot of untapped areas of our neurosis that we've never wanted to touch, because it's so gross, so embarrassing, that we don't want to even touch to it. And the reason why we are seeking for spirituality is because we don't want to touch those embarrassing places; these areas that we don't want see it again. But still it's within our life, and we *have* to open those stinky little packages [laughter], that we long put away to our cellar, and hopefully somebody will forget about it; hopefully, nobody will raise the question *at all*. And we got it-- we will reformed: we become a monk or nun, we become renounced world, we become entirely different situations. And, \"Now my life's changed; my ID is changed. And I don't have to relate with any of those stuff anymore.\" And hoping that that will be the only way -- hopefully that's the way. Hopefully that nobody will know your past record. But however, unfortunately, that if we really want to work with ourselves thoroughly and completely, accordance with the disciplines exist in the tradition, that we got to *uncover* them. Which would be very shocking -- terrible maybe. Embarrassing, at *least*. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=754.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, don't get alarmed; that's how all things goes. If you really want to do a clean job, you have to uncover the past. And the Catholics have developed tradition of confessing to a priest, which that a few people can hear your sins that committed in your past, present, and you might be committing in the future. [laughter] But that's regarded as purely private property, that only the priest can hear that particular sin is being uttered in little box, through the little window. And you can just vomit out to the priest. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=897.0,941.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the Buddhist tradition, you have to experience *yourself*. You have to vomit first, obviously -- or shit out, whatever the case, which direction might come out -- psychologically. [laughter] And then we have to examine, review, look at, and find out what had happened in the past, the reason why those things stored has gone so antique and still stinky in our life. [laughter] And we have to view that, look at that. And we actually have to acknowledge those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=941.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's no quick salvation particularly, from that point of view, which is very wise. Once you get cleaned up, you get cleaned up completely at once, properly, of course. But you don't have to go along with your problematic situations that you've on the throne of enlightenment, lion's seat; when you sitting on as Buddha, you don't have to feel guilty about that *one* little truth [laughter] that you haven't told to the rest of the universe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=987.0,1025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's why the Buddha is known as not the Buddha alone, but \"Samyaksambuddha,\" which means \"Completely Enlightened One.\" You can't have just pseudo-buddhas. [laughter] But they had to be Samyaksambuddha, *completely* enlightened, *fully* enlightened. And reason why is fully enlightened because everything is processed out completely, so there's no little areas left at all, or embarrassment, or problems of that nature particularly. So there is discovering buddha nature for us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1025.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Discovering buddha nature from that point of view is that discovering that there's existence of ultimate purity, ultimate sanity. Sparkling with its own glory. Magnificent. Which is shining out all the time, altogether. Independent of falsity, hypocrisy, little neurosis, or big neurosis, whatever your case history may be. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1060.0,1107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what's we in the Buddhist tradition called compassion, is having some kind of area of openness and softness, warmth, towards our own neurosis. That we don't regard as just purely something should be just purely killed down, and buried bottom of the earth. That we can still relate with as our own baby, if you like to look it; came from our own body, our own basic being. It is available, it is *there*. There's no problem with that. [laughs] It's very simple, but it is very demanding, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1107.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to give birth of enlightenment, buddha nature, you could see how and why that you have to give up *all* the preconceptions of all *kinds* that might have accumulated by one source or the another source. A lot of tricks that we pick up from our own neurosis parents. Lot of tricks we pick up our neurosis friends. *Lot* of tricks that we pick up from our neurosis spiritual teachers. That we collected all kinds of bank after bank after bank, fat, large bank, gigantic bank. The Bank of Neurosis. [laughter] Very rich. Filthy rich. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1162.0,1227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have to give up our bank. We have to disown our bank manager. Turn him in. That's what's called devotion, actually. Devotion-- not so much of hero worship, or worshiping God, or worshiping a guru, putting them on a pedestal particularly. But worship in this case is just actually *surrendering*, rather than worship as identifying oneself with somebody else who's higher level. And trying to worship the airplane, jet plane flying above our head. And hoping that you could be one of those one day. You could fly as well, without actually buying ticket. That's not very practical. We can't do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1227.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you want to fly properly, we have to go to airport, buy a ticket, and fly-- get into the airplane; that's the better way to do. [laughs; laughter] That's surrendering, is give up our own competition to the jet airplanes. And just trying to accept that we can't fly, or they can fly. Once we buy a ticket and money for that worth, and register, and have our seats assigned. That it might be insult to you that you can't fly that way, but I wouldn't take that resentment too far. Poor captain who pilots our airplane is not supposed to be on a high horse; he just learn how to drive the machine, and so the mechanical process is just kind of cosmic intelligence. That somehow that this particular aluminium substance that build into shape of a airplane: lots of dials, lots of machines, learn how to fly. If there's right people press the right button, and if there's the right passengers, who doesn't create any further problems, so we *fly*. It's very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1286.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so surrendering is not all that big deal. It might be big deal in the first when you were untouched by civilization of gentleness. If you are not involved with the Buddhist tradition, quite possibly the surrendering might be *very* difficult, because you have never known gentleness. Because gentleness comes from nontheism -- by the way. [laughter] And only gentleness come from nontheism. And rest of the gentleness-- or the *non*-gentleness, whatever is we might talk about, is comes from some kind of sense of theistic competition, of trying to *compete* with the grandfather or grandmother, whatever you have, white or black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1373.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Giving birth to buddha nature, therefore -- discovering, realizing the buddha nature therefore -- is very simple, from that point of view. It's very direct, very personal. And really relates very much with us. But it needs immense gentleness. Gentleness not on the level of love-lighties. Gentleness not in the sense of conmanship. Gentleness not in the sense of business deal. But gentleness in the sense of real genuine warmth to oneself, to begin with; so therefore that warmth is extended to rest of the vicinity around you, which is what's known as your world. [Laughs] If you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1431.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mic? Where are you? Steve?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Last night you mentioned transmutation and exertion, and tonight you talk about exertion again. I'm wondering if you could talk about their relationship a bit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Transmutation and exertion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exertion is working hard, simply. The Sanskrit word for that is \"virya\", which is the fourth paramita. And it's using the situation as source of one's own energy, one's own discipline. So the exertion is related with the transmutation in some sense. That if there's a hassle, which seemingly unrelated with your particular discipline, *can* be transmuted into your particular purpose, at the same time. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So that's what exertion and transmutation at this point; we are not using in the tantric sense, but we are simply using it as kind of hinayana-mahayana jargon, in some sense. And just workability. That the some threat-- some threats, are not regarded as a *real* threat, but simply it is just a workable basis on which you can expand your energy and exertion to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What about the problem of indulgency? Seems like it sometimes it'd be hard to tell whether you're indulging yourself doing that or actually doing it properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Indulgency is seemingly just a sidekick that you were seeking out of all kinds of things; that we have a excuse to indulge in certain things, therefore we say it's okay for you to do it because \"the book says so, the teacher says so.\" So we sort of get into that kind of dialogue. And fundamental indulgency is just a complete sense of you're flipping out altogether: that you use everything, material that's available to you, use your own benefit, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1495.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pepe?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Just, Rinpoche, continuing on the theme of the transmutation, when you're talking about turning in the bank manager [laughs], are you talking about-- would this be related to the idea of transmuting? When you're talking turning in the bank manager of neurosis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think our bank manager can't be transmuted, he should be [INAUDIBLE]. He should be put in jail.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What would the jail be in this case? Or how would--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you know, a regular jail and-- [laughter] Some kind of hell. Some kind of hell, you know. That, four-by-four little room. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay that's quite explicit, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1692.0,1751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Michael? You need the micro here. Michael -- here.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Oh, Michael left [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\n[Microphone feedback] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You spoke about exposing all those little stinky areas. And at the same time, in the mahayana it talks about putting yourself in somebody else's place -- you know, like taking the stuff on yourself and giving others the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --benefit. How is that-- that seems compassionate to others, but how is that compassionate to yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How is it compassionate to oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, how?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not compassionate to oneself particularly. The question here is not supposedly create wall-to-wall red carpet to everybody. And as far as to working with oneself, you might find a lot of cold areas by result of being bodhisattva-like approach. So you might have the wrong end of the stick seemingly, to begin with, and a lot of hardship and problems, but still you are on the right track.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1751.0,1844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What is crazy wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We haven't come to that yet [laughter], this particular discussion. And but however, for your reference point -- are you going to come back here or...? Do we have a chance to discuss later on, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Perhaps.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well maybe \"perhaps\" is too tentative. So, we might discuss tonight, at this point. \"Crazy wisdom\" is a term that developed in the vajrayanist tantrikas of the Tibetan tradition of the vajrayana expression. And the wisdom can go crazy -- gone crazy. That wisdom that does not allow a reference point to relate with the ordinary neurosis anymore; that wisdom that is crazy is willing to cut through ordinary neurosis without any reference point. Any gentleness, particularly. And crazy wisdom is that *unreasonable*, skillful stroke, that can happen *any* time. And... unreasonable, I suppose is the only word.\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1844.0,1945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, I've been experiencing a sense of a whole lot of resistance to sitting, that feels-- it feels even more than like resistance, like *total* lack of interest [laughter], and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I feel like there's a confusion in my mind between, one where in a sense where I trust myself to know what I want to do, and that's getting stronger to know what I want to do. If I don't want to sit, then I'm-- what am I sitting for? But then I think, well maybe that's my ego trying to protect itself from getting lost and getting scared. And I don't know! [laughs] I don't know which it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think know which one it is would help, particularly. It's confuse you further.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [laughing] It would?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it basically nothing to do with which one of those things operating. But basically, it's a question of... sitting is a very unreasonable thing to do, to begin with. It doesn't have any purpose, it doesn't have any projects, it doesn't make any money. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And doesn't create any particular physical, or even psychological comforts of any kind. But still, it's been done, in the past 2,500 years. So we might just go and sit and *do* it. I'm afraid so, that seem to be the only way to-- best way to approach. And no philosophy, no comfort, no logic, particularly -- if there's more logic it's going to be more dangerous.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What's the best way to work with the resistance, when it's there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just to *push*. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Just push, stay with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Push. You have all the sangha and all the lineage behind you, to push.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But *why* they're there, one never knows. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1945.0,2089.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is there a special relationship between buddha nature and the gaps in ordinary consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What kind of gaps are you talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Say in sitting meditation. Sit-- in sitting meditation, the gaps that occur in, say, chatter.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The gaps that occur in chatter.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Chatter? I suppose there's differences between the two. I'm not quite certain what gaps you're exactly talking about. Can you be very precise? Just close to very?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [laughing] Okay, just close to very. Um... [snaps fingers; laughs; laughter] ... in my meditation, when the thoughts slow down, and cut off. And it seems that ordinary perception becomes very transparent, you know. It's like not particularly a sense of... being there, not a self-conscious sense particularly; it's just like a gap, where there's nothing much going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [speaking Spanish] Si si.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You know it's just... is there a special relationship with discovering buddha nature in that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, that's just purely--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: A symptom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --a fever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: A fever. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --of the buddha nature. [laughter] Yeah. And that happens as you get-- kind of as you catch fever, before you get really sick. [laughter] In this case, sick meaning sick in the buddha nature. Metaphorically speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But... [laughter] Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't try and pursue it or particularly try to reject it. They just come and go. But basic buddha nature is that comes from sense of warmth. Which happens in not only meditation experience but everyday life situations: there's a glimpse of warmth, glimpse of wanting to work with people, wanting work with the world. Some sense of fascination. And you are artist, you know how the whole thing works: that your relationship with the calligraphy, or your relationship with the world, that kind of little openness that takes place, is the essence of buddha nature. That's maybe yogacharan point of view, but still it's applicable to us at this point. That sense of self-illuminating situation; that appreciating the art, and appreciating expanding and actually doing something. Or might do it clumsy, but still appreciating what you've done as some kind of remark, in how you're doing basically. How about that? [laughter] Is it sold?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'll work with it, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [SPEAKER6 laughs] It's yours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2089.0,2323.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, gentleman over there. Yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There's two corresponding questions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is the purpose of not talking, during this-- these days? And why has it been so impossible or really hard for us to do that? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's answers itself. It's because you find difficult to do it, therefore you should do it. And one of the reasons of non-talking is the speech is employed so much, particularly in the Western world. And in other word that there's no differences between spoken pattern of our language to what's been written. If you speak perfectly, that you're supposed to be able to write down everything what you said in completely grammatical level, which is your sort of living book all the time, living monument, living literature. And there's no idiomatic expressions exist as much as other language-- linguistic traditions. That language that what the way we speak is what's almost been written, at the same time, which is a basic sort of problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd moreover, that the speaking is agents of psychological subconscious gossip. And more you talk, more you get food for your thought. And you-- consequently you can't able to sit and meditate properly. So the idea is kind of... training everybody that how to lead a monastic life, in this particular few days. That you can do nothing, speak less, and therefore think less, and sit a lot and practice a lot. And that's what people in the past have done so. So we are just simply trying to *do* it. And we are not particularly thinking if you talk too much, it's going to turn into problematic situations, at all; you can speak as much as you want to yourself maybe. You can do it in the mountains, and walk up and speak to yourself, and have conversations with yourself. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAny problems? So: don't speak, don't think. And sit, and think. [laughter][laughs] And work on your body-- buddha nature, by not speaking, not thinking. But at the same time doing both. Got that? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2323.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Professor King? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MAX KING: Rinpoche, in term--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MAX KING: [laughs] In terms of exertion, and also in regard to the stinky little areas of your past, would you say that exertion is more in allowing yourself to *be* open, as opposed to really any accent on the stinky little areas at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exertion is pushing very hard, as exertion should mean; but at same time allowing the rest of it. Is just exertion is become a sort of just witnesser to the situation -- you don't particular try to clamp down, but just watch the parade go behind you. But at the same time you stand stiff, with exertion; you just be witness. So it's just like the analogy of watching a parade go along, bypass you, but you stand stiff, and hold your body together, and mind together.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MAX KING: The stinky little area is not particularly that important. More your resistance to it though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's more of emotional input, so therefore it is important. It depends on how much investment we have on that particular bank what we are talking about. If you have less investment then you have no problem, more investment it create more problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MAX KING: So if there is more investment, is there more push?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More push.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MAX KING: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2527.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Herbie? Her-bie... [laughter] Yes Herbie?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE: Could you talk a little about the relationship between suffering and nonexistence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between what? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE: Suffering and nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, suffering is suffering, and non-existence... [laughs; laughter] What's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE: Is there suffering in non-existence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Because suffers by itself, its own nonexistence. You want to be somebody, you cannot do it; so therefore you suffered by your own nonexistence. Sure. That goes on for a long way, from arhat level to bodhisattva level to buddhahood of the tenth bhumi, actually. According to the tradition, that that kind of pain goes on, pain of nonexistence. Which is called -- what's Professor Guenther calls it? -- \"wrong belief about reality,\" or something like? Yeah, that goes on all the time. So that there are two types of egolessness: is one is egolessness of phenomenal existence, and one is belief in the phenomenal existence, which is a kind of shadow. And idea was that to unveil both of those shadows.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE: They're both shadows?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [laughter] [UNCLEAR: Chinos?]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE: Yeah. I'll think about that. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2650.0,2787.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman over there? He's been raising hand three times, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: This is my first time in this kind of practice, and one thing that's come up continually while I've been sitting is my desire and my thoughts of the future, and what it's going to be like at tea time and what it's going to be like [laughter] on Monday, and all the good things in store. No matter what-- no matter how well the meditation is going, whether good or bad or what, indifferent. And I'm wondering if you have any wise tips about-- [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Wise tits\"? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: [laughs] That's up to you. [laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Have you been doing some kind of Theravadin tradition before?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: Some kind of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theravadin tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: I missed the first-- the word. [laughter] The what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Theravadin.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: No!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No? No?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: And I'm wondering how to move past that, and really be with the moment, and not constantly looking forward to the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Be with the moment?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is the moment? What do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: That's easy for *you* to say! [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2787.0,2936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we cut through that! That's it. And other problems are not regarded as problems particularly. They are just expressions of unable to realize the moment. That when the moment is actually developed and understood properly, there's no problems. So I don't-- I wouldn't try to solve problems. Meditation discipline is not so much to solve problems. But to look *beyond* that point of view. When you're trying to solve problems, you're trying to fight from the cowboys-Indian level. But there's something greater than that; you can transcend both of that. You don't have to be the side of the cowboy or the Indian, but you can transcend beyond that. The basic point is: sit a lot. Have to identify more with the sitting practice. And once you begin to do that, sitting practice does not become any more foreign practice, per se as such. It becomes just part of your behavior pattern, your lifestyle, and then there's no problem. It just flows smoothly with the rest of your life.\r\n\r\n\r\nGood luck, sir. What's your name?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: Steve.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Steve? Steve what? Steve what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: Steve [UNCLEAR: Saville? Saddle?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come back. Sit with us. Practice with us. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2936.0,3061.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JUDY NIKOLAI: Rinpoche, I started sitting a little over a year ago, at the summer that Naropa Institute first began. And then last winter I came to California, and I took refuge vows and Chenrezig initiation with Kalu Rinpoche. And I've been involved with Kalu Rinpoche's center in San Francisco since last winter. And I've had some confusion because of, well, having the Chenrezig initiation and doing that practice and still feeling a real strong urge to do sitting meditation. And I want to know what you have to say about keeping up both of those practices in my daily meditation practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on your state of mind. If you can actually work with some sense of a basic principle of sanity and sitting discipline, properly, that Chenrezig meditation is seemingly just people have familiarize themselves with the embodiment of compassion. So if you don't make a big deal of *that*, and visualization doesn't become a prominent figure in your life, problem in your life, that can be handled.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut in a lot of cases I suggest people to give up visualization actually -- having taken even the abhisheka initiation. That trying to develop just a sort of a literal compassion -- of the Chenrezig *type*, psychological outlook -- rather than the visual, cultural situation alone. And sitting practice of basic meditation does a world of good. At the same time, you know, it's creates a whole vast canvas for you, that you can paint any pictures on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think lots of practice, of sitting practice will be good. But I don't think there's any conflict, particularly. But Chenrezig visualization is just an expression of how to relate with somebody who is god Avalokiteshvara as embodiment of enlightened compassion; how to emulate that particular principle. That can be done not only on your meditation cushion, that can be done in the suburbs or the, you know, ghettos or whatever. So, sitting practice does provide a lot of backbones for that canvas. You know, the frame on the canvas is the sitting practice, and the vision of the can-- of the sitting practice is of the canvas itself. So what picture you paint on it, it's no problem then.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think you have to sit a lot. And maybe it's good if you can do some of dathuns here, if we are doing. Something like that situation if you can; intensive sitting practice for *whole* period of time. Like one month sitting practice -- like we have dathuns, or nyinthuns even, you know, whole day sitting practice. Which will give you a different kind of perspective on your lifestyle and your experience. That you regard sitting practice not so much scheduled to day-to-day, by portion of day, but as *whole* lifestyle. It's *complete* world of its own. And that might help you. [laughs] Think about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JUDY NIKOLAI: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's your name?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JUDY NIKOLAI: Judy. Judy Nikolai.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3061.0,3303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there? Dark hair?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What do you recommend in the way of practice for those of us who are-- have just come for this session for the first time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And-- what-- for how long daily?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibly two hours a day. Sitting practice of meditation. If you could turn to three hours, that would be good. Sitting practice of meditation up to two hours. And take part in some kind of community activities. If you are accessible to-- geographically to local Dharmadhatus you can come and sit with them. If you are not, you can set up your own nyinthuns. And you could borrow the programs from whatever we have already; just trying to take occasional weekend retreats in your own home or go somewhere else. And once a month, at least. That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3303.0,3375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a guy over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --sometimes it's not *too* difficult to take out one of those little private parts, one of those embarrassing things, and even to reveal it. But sometimes, even after discussing it, and quite openly, instead of doing something else, it goes back in the bank. You know, it does really not all that-- it doesn't solve, or it doesn't particularly help an embarrassing part to just-- to open it up. Can you suggest anything to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I can't suggest anything. But what I'm saying, all these things, it's not a question of-- not basically... I'm not trying to give you help particularly; I can't help your problem. It's *your* problem, unfortunately. And I mean, reason why it is your problem is because it's not *my* problem. [laughter] [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You know, perhaps you have your own \"problem\", huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3375.0,3472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [laughs] hopefully, hopefully, yeah. Some kind of problems, yeah. But *however*... [laughter] now that we are in your problems situation [laughter], I wouldn't try to solve the problem. That's the starting point. We are not using-- we are not in a high school level of chemistry exercises. And what materials we could put together, and what would explode, what would swim around, what would have creating you know smoke, or smudge out of those things? But we are talking about actual *real* world; we are not in the sixth grade chemistry level. But we are talking about real world, and we are not expecting to solve our problems by doing these things. But we are actually relating with just working with the basic situation that's exist, very simply. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, sort of... I can't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you speak a little more clearly then?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --I can't get the phrasing right though, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, I do. It's sort of like, my approach might be a little heavy-handed, as far as--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say heavy-handed; your approach is right balance in terms of handedness, or whatever it may be. But your problem is maybe too goal-oriented. And you know, \"what makes the right thing to *happen*?\" And once you begin to take that attitude, you have endless problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3472.0,3601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are not particularly concerned about troubleshooting here. We are more concerned with making love with the trouble, at the compassionate level. Extending our friendship, openness to the problems. That they are not particularly-- that appear to be aggressive and abusive and problematic, but if you can extend our sympathy and love to that situation, they are no longer a problematic situation. They just a little bubble in our brain. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, I can see that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I hope so. *Welcome* that. I think you can do it. And there's no problem, really. Just simplify the whole thing; don't put on a kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, this is true--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --achievement, you know achievement--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --yeah exactly, it's the-- in trying that way, you sort of multiply the thing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --yeah, don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --rather than decrease it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --don't try to do anything heroic, or a priority list of that how much monies you've made, or how much sanities you've achieved, in the past six hours, you know. [laughter] Only become back to -- what's it called -- Charles Berner's.... anybody know what that is? \"Enlightenment Intensive\"? You used to getting little numbers and figures, how much enlightenment you've achieved. And it's-- and I suppose nobody is doing these days, any Charles Berner trip? It's still happening? Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, but still, that's becomes *pathetic*, in some sense, if I may say so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3601.0,3723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fourth time you raise your hand? Just wait.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I've been wondering, what the source are different conclusions from sitting practice would be. It-- both in terms of different styles, like the different schools of Tibetan Buddhism, and in different ways that *I* might describe what I've experienced?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by that, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [laughs] It's sort of-- it's more a question about trust, I suppose, trusting in myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think traditionally it's very definite, that particularly Kagyu tradition recommend that basic sitting practice of shamatha meditation, basically. And beyond that, it's individual discipline; how the person involve themselves through successive trainings accordance with what kind of teacher they have. Any problems?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then the differences in style then have to do mainly with what-- who the teacher is? And it just happens...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3723.0,3828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the feeling of the lineage, a particular lineage. Like the Kagyu tradition solely devoted to sitting practice of meditation, which is presented by from Naropa, Milarepa, and Gampopa and so forth. There is a sense of immense importance we put on do you do your basic sitting practice of meditation. And Gampopa was supposed to be the bodhisattva at the time of Buddha who request to teach the doctrine of Samadhiraja Sutra. And there's-- in Samadhiraja Sutra, there's all kinds of recommendations on how to tame your mind, how to work with your mind. Which is the mahayanist sutra closest to Satipatthana Sutra of the hinayanist. Which is closest to that of the shamatha-vipashyana practice. So, since Gampopa particularly, that we decide to follow this particular tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnybody who begins this spiritual discipline, you should follow sitting practice of meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3828.0,3911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Although, I mean approach like Kalu Rinpoche seems to be slightly different. And he views that, basically, American students are laymans, and they should be saved fast, sooner. They should be given little help to relate with their Avalokiteshvara, Chenrezig. So they should get themselves into much more quicker. And in case they give up, what the basic tradition might be. If they don't give up, that's okay. But if they don't-- if they *do* give up, they should have still some kind of saving grace in them. And that seem to be the basic tradition -- it's sort of teaching towards layman. Like what we're doing same thing in Tibet, and I've done it myself that way too.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut reason why I relate with my own students are concerned, in America in general, I regard them as not just illiterate layman particularly, but people are highly literate, educated, intelligent. So you can train them as like potential monks that exist in Tibet, which is only literary class -- are the monks are literary people, or the government officials or whatever you have.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo trained that way, that the American students *can* work beyond that purely devotional level alone, and hoping that their trust would last much longer than what Kalu Rinpoche envisioned. And I think he feels that his shortness of life, getting old, and also problem that relates with that is that if people don't stick properly, he would like to sow a seed of goodness in them. Even if they turn against Buddhism completely, so when they go away somewhere and decide to become a marine biologist [laughter] or soldier, they still have a seed of Avalokiteshvara is planted in them. Which is very-- very good of him, very insightful in some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd maybe my approach is somewhat naive, from that point of view; that I trust too much in individuals. And I work with my students, from that point of view, as working with the priest class level; literate people, who can read, and write, understand philosophy, understand the languages. So that's how the approach has been happening. Whereas Kalu Rinpoche's approach is seems to be somewhat in working with the kind of peasant class people, who might drop in, might drop out. Invite anybody who want to join in, good for them. And he's not particularly concerned with if they stick with him or not, just throw good seed in them. I don't know why that particular point arose. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3911.0,4116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Michael?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MICHAEL: Rinpoche, in... is this on? [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [blows on the microphone] okay. In revealing some of those stinky little packages you were talking about before, I find that whenever I feel myself going through that process that I end up telling someone about it. I end up having to really put it outside of myself. Do you see that as something necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think necessary. There's a lot of seeking for comradeship; it's not important. And in fact that's very important, not to pollute the world. [laughter] But that doesn't mean to say one has to sit on your own problem, without anybody to talk to. But you-- one's way of relating with it, you could talk to somebody who can actually transcend that kind of problem, rather than pollute somebody's mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat happened to your thumb?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MICHAEL: Oh, a four-by-twelve fell on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4116.0,4185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59068/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, friends, I think probably this is time for you to go to sleep and finish. We have nevertheless, one last announcement which is very important, and they're going to lay the trip on you. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4185.0,4200.2405"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19751011VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=0.47,2.819"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nThe Discovery of Buddha Nature:\nThe Mahayana Path,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3.97,7.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Padma Jong in Dos\nRios, California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=7.52,10.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number two,\nOctober 11th, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=10.44,14.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made August 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=16.09,20.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis is talk number two\nfrom the seminar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=22.02,25.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on The Discovery\nof Buddha 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California,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=32.33,37.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on October 11th, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=37.76,40.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI suppose we should continue\nwhat we discussed last 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Where are you? 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Yes.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1517.62,1520.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1:\nLast night you mentioned\ntransmutation and exertion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1520.64,1525.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and tonight you talk\nabout exertion 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How is\nthat-- that seems compassionate\nto others,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1791.07,1795.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but how is that\ncompassionate to yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=1795.4,1797.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How is it\ncompassionate to oneself?\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, 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Her-bie...\n[laughter] Yes Herbie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2650.8,2653.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED HERBIE:\nCould you talk a little\nabout the relationship","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2660.2,2661.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between suffering\nand nonexistence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2661.95,2663.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between what?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2665.0,2667.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED HERBIE:\nSuffering and nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2667.41,2669.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, suffering is suffering,\nand non-existence...\n[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2671.82,2679.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What's the problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2680.92,2683.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED HERBIE:\nIs there suffering\nin non-existence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2684.27,2686.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nSure. Because suffers by itself,\nits own nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2687.49,2692.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You want to be somebody,\nyou cannot do it;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2694.49,2696.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so therefore you suffered\nby your own nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2697.63,2700.179"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure. That goes on\nfor a long way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2701.51,2704.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from arhat level to bodhisattva\nlevel to buddhahood\nof the tenth bhumi, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2704.41,2710.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the tradition,\nthat that kind of pain goes on,\npain of nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2711.88,2717.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is called --\nwhat's Professor Guenther\ncalls it? --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2718.29,2721.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"wrong belief about reality,\"\nor something like?\nYeah, that goes on all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2724.83,2730.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that there are\ntwo types of egolessness:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2733.64,2736.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is one is egolessness\nof phenomenal existence,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2736.27,2751.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and one is belief\nin the phenomenal existence,\nwhich is a kind of shadow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2752.6,2756.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And idea was that to unveil\nboth of those shadows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2759.0,2766.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED HERBIE:\nThey're both shadows?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2766.44,2769.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2772.92,2775.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[UNCLEAR: Chinos?]\nUNCONFIRMED HERBIE:\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2777.681,2779.557"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll think about that. 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No matter what--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2826.16,2832.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no matter how well\nthe meditation is going,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2833.84,2836.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether good or bad\nor what, indifferent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2836.79,2840.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm wondering if you have\nany wise tips about--\n[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2841.21,2848.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Wise tits\"?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2848.56,2857.431"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE: [laughs]\nThat's up to you.\n[laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2862.44,2870.695"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]\nHave you been doing some kind of\nTheravadin tradition before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2877.04,2882.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE:\nSome kind of what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2883.58,2884.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nTheravadin tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2884.99,2886.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE:\nI missed the first--\nthe word. [laughter] The what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2887.36,2889.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Theravadin.\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: No!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2889.86,2892.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No? No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2892.29,2894.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE:\nAnd I'm wondering\nhow to move past that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2896.08,2898.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and really be with the moment,\nand not constantly\nlooking forward to 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2904.47,2905.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWhat is the moment?\nWhat do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2905.72,2920.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2920.64,2922.908"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it!\n[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=2924.94,2929.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED STEVE:\nThat's easy for *you* to say!\n[Trungpa Rinpoche 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And that might help you.\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3285.67,3292.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Think about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3292.37,3293.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED JUDY NIKOLAI:\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3293.3,3294.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWhat's your name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=3294.67,3295.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED JUDY NIKOLAI:\nJudy. 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microphone]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4126.62,4128.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"okay. In revealing some\nof those stinky little packages\nyou were talking about before,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4128.15,4133.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I find that\nwhenever I feel myself\ngoing through that process","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4134.34,4138.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I end up\ntelling someone about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4138.03,4142.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I end up having to really\nput it outside of myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4142.05,4144.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you see that\nas something necessary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4144.65,4146.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI don't think necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4147.67,4148.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a lot of seeking\nfor comradeship;\nit's not important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4148.99,4155.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in fact that's very\nimportant, not to pollute the\nworld. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4156.1,4162.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that doesn't mean to say one\nhas to sit on your own problem,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4162.12,4164.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without anybody to talk to.\nBut you-- one's way\nof relating with it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4164.96,4168.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you could talk to somebody\nwho can actually transcend\nthat kind of problem,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4168.78,4172.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather than pollute\nsomebody's mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4172.67,4174.469"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What happened to your thumb?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723#t=4176.08,4177.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108356/file/209723/transcript/59069/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED MICHAEL:\nOh, a four-by-twelve\nfell on 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