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Talk is interspersed with long discussion periods. Talk topics include how to view work, sex, and money as in line with spirituality; transcending \"good\" and \"bad\" karma; working with the energy of bewilderment which generates concepts and karma; the energy which governs work, sex, and money; and egolessness. Discussion topics include involvement in world rather than purely contemplative life; problems as opportunities; how to approach karma related with parents; meditation as space to bring up neurosis; and entertainment as self-deception.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Future is Open","BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 11: Family Karma; and Chapter 16: Karma\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE FUTURE IS OPEN: Coda: Karma in Everyday Life\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u0026lt;\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-future-is-open.html\"\u0026gt;Shambhala Publications\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 14 2026 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Eirikur Baldursson, Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA two-part talk focused on karma and the related subject of how to approach work, sex, and money from point of view of sanity. Talk is interspersed with long discussion periods. Talk topics include how to view work, sex, and money as in line with spirituality; transcending \"good\" and \"bad\" karma; working with the energy of bewilderment which generates concepts and karma; the energy which governs work, sex, and money; and egolessness. Discussion topics include involvement in world rather than purely contemplative life; problems as opportunities; how to approach karma related with parents; meditation as space to bring up neurosis; and entertainment as self-deception.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-ae1t3z.mpga"]},"duration":8608.83592,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/258/original/open-uri20260428-880-ae1t3z.mpga?1777400227","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":8608.83592,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710829VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"19710829VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 2\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II. Given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Two, \"Karma,\" given on August 29th, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made September 2025\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held in August 1971 at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This will be talk number two, Sunday afternoon, August 29th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=0.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: PRE-TALK DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we could begin by some discussions, follow up to what we discussed last night, and continuity. It seems necessary that we have to come to some conclusions, before we get to the next subject, whatever subject may be comes up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=46.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: We were talking about the need-- like, almost yesterday, the city versus country and perhaps that where should to be the-- fulfill our ideal the most. But it would seem that wherever we are, it's a chance to fulfill our ideal. I mean like, that you're always where you're needed. And so I don't see the concern of whether I should be here or whether I should be there. I mean... [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You know, it's just to see the situation and give to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but also that you create your own city, so to speak. But also you have to relate with the society anyway. So, there may be a conflict of it by then. Like such as like getting food supplies and getting your mail delivered and details like that. Your milkman.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, yesterday you were talking about the death of the city versus the health of the country. And this is what I kind of assumed, because that situation of how we handle ourselves as regard \"that\" is wherever we are. If we want mail, we've got to be some place that's it's going to be delivered. You know, if we want food you have to be in some place you know where you can supply it ourselves and have it supplied, or something. But, you know, the-- but in the bodhisattva ideal, like that, wherever you are there's the opportunity to be of service, even if you're alone, there's still the opportunity to give.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's the other aspect that it came up last time, in the other meeting in the house, before the seminar, on the subject of being nuisance -- us being nuisance to the world, to the public. Somehow it's not as simple as that, there had to be some negative things happening, anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well I think if you're in in a position to give, it's not for you to be concerned of whether or not anybody is able to take. I mean, if they would take they would, and if they're not, they'll, you know, throw you out [laughs], or tell you to go someplace else, or be quiet or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would-- anybody in the audience--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean that doesn't matter, I'm... [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=128.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Has anybody else got any ideas on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It seemed to me that, while we are not supposed to be a social service agency, discuss techniques how to help other people, I thought a sangha was about our own version or attitudes that are-- is involvements. Of how we see ourselves as-- in our involvement with [INAUDIBLE] or whatever is around. I mean, are we talking about how to help others, or are we talking about who we are in the first place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How to be...?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: At first we have-- I thought it was our own attitudes, toward our version of work, sex, and money that were going to be discuss. To see more clearly who we are, before anything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very true. It's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=310.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is it necessary, if we're going to be-- study Buddhism, to live in a special way? You know, you mentioned that in the beginning that techniques were necessary. I wonder if it's necessary always to separate ourself from society at large by the-- our daily practice, the way we eat, that sort of thing. We don't play music, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's necessary in a sense of providing perspective view. Otherwise there's no chance of working on any basis. So, from that point of view it is necessary. But equally the other aspect is also necessary in order to bring the perspective view of the other one. So it's side-by-side, like the idea of wisdom and compassion being side-by-side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=388.0,457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Was there an aspect in what you said last night of using society as a form of meditation? You know engaging with society, as that you talked about in your book, in MEDITATION IN ACTION. Is that part of what you were saying, or did I misunderstand it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it is. Definitely; that's one of the important point. Is that once person is involved with the meditation practice or involved with the walking in the path, so to speak, then these problems are not anymore hangups, but they are creative opportunities. That these lifestyle situation becomes part of meditation practice. That a situation slows you down, or situation puts you-- push you. It depends on how--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How you use it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How you use it. If you are using too much, then there will be some way of slowing you down. If you are using too little, there will be some reminder coming up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So that all your engagement with everything you come to in life provides you with source of [INAUDIBLE], or provides you with a stimulation for your own work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For your own work, yes, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well is this something entirely different than the way of the hermit who goes into a cave and works out by himself, or is this the same thing done in a different way? Within the Buddhist tradition, if you stay in life, or how does it work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in the Buddhist tradition that quite sort of methodically, they say in our history, that no hermit stayed for whole life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Although they take a vow. For instance like Milarepa took a vow that regard his cave as his own tomb. And with that attitude he went in. But he can't really avoid the whole thing. There were huntsmen coming through collecting feathers for their arrow, and there were occasional people are dropping in. And people coming to ask him questions. And finally he have to move and he have to walk into the world, and he have to step out of that thing. And generally that is-- it has been said that your retreat doesn't end completely, doesn't completely end, until you come back to your old situations. Then your retreat is completed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=457.0,632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But is there an aspect of it that makes it necessary for you to go away from your ordinary routine in order to get to a certain point before you go back? Or is it possible to develop strong [INAUDIBLE] in your ordinary irritations right straight through, if you have the understanding that's necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well this-- it's both possible. It seems that there was a question asked to Buddha by.... what's his name? Anakapindi [sic: Anathapindika], whatever his name, who asked him-- He was a great, as they call it \"dayaka,\" the supporter for the community of monks. He provide meditation places for monks and food, and he created a situation of teaching. And without him that there was no possibilities of reaching the teaching in the wider scale in the time of Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat he asked, supposing if he give up his duties -- his work, serving the sangha -- then it might be for him good thing to do. But on the other hand this may not be good, because he wouldn't be providing situations for other people to learn. So the answer was that you can remain as household, and practice from that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it seems that whole thing is-- depends on individual situations; that you got yourself already into it. As I said, that better not to begin; once you begin you begin properly and you finish properly. So once you got into a household life situation, in which you can't really undo it. Impossible. So, there is a way in it. But at the same time, there's other possibilities of that, if a person feels that he is free and he could do anything with his life, then freedom must be presented to him properly. He should respect the sacredness of the freedom. So in order to do that, he put himself into certain tasks of restricted areas, living in a contemplative life, for long period of time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSeem to be fundamentally it is quite different from that of the Catholic tradition of monastic enclosure, monastic tradition, where you take a vow, you lock yourself behind a grill, rest of your life. But somehow in the Buddhist tradition there is this contemplative life of retreat principle, but still there is some allegiance to the samsara. It's almost sort of paying back their kindness. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=632.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you think about-- [dog howls; laughter] Thank you. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Most of us have a kind of problem with our parents--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --is that they are still in samsara, [laughter] you know. And we have difficulty because it's kind of a duty in two ways, to the contemplative tradition, which kind of turns them off. And it seems to-- in terms of our relationship to our parents, it kinda creates-- seems to be a conflict there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the source of the whole thing we are discussing. Seem that there is a certain karmic link to parents, and a certain neurotic relationship with them. And there is certain karmic link with money, and certain neurotic relationship with them, with money. And that seem to be the source of the whole karmic situation, that we find ourselves in inescapable situations. If a person is skillful and selfless, relatively selfless -- or at least a candidate to be selfless [laugher] -- that they should be-- some thought should be given to parents and trying to work along with them. Trying to work with their situations and understand them. It depends on, I suppose also, the parents. That in many cases the parents have their preconception of you as child, and wouldn't listen whatever you say. But in many cases that parents trying to understand, trying to learn, trying to take interest in your livelihood, of some kind. In that case that there will be a tremendous great possibilities of approaching them and trying to work with them, as selfless as possible, rather than putting yourself into their territory, but one can somehow relate with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=844.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Why did the Buddha require that before people became monks they'd have to have their parents' permission?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's exactly the same thing. That their karma should be worked out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But if you have a situation where the parent's not-- I mean, taking that teaching today, if you had the situation where *no way* is the parent going to say, \"Yeah, you run off and do *this*.\" What-- I mean, does that still hold, is that still valid? That one should get parents' permission--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --to enter a contemplative life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think it's absolutely black and white as that. But some attitude of sooner or later that you're going to communicate with the parents. I mean for the time being you might have to in fact escape from your home, and do your practice. But that shouldn't be regarded as that now you got away from them and never going to see them again. But a hope of some kind of-- certain stage that communicating with them, relating with them, rather than abandoning altogether, giving up all hope.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's exactly happened with the Buddha himself, that he found that there's no way of explaining that he wants to leave his situation as a prince. And he escaped. And he attained what he wanted to attain. And then he returned to his parents and he-- his father, and he begin to teach them. And result of that his son also become his follower. Rahula become his disciple. So he went back, and he taught them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=998.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Suppose they had died while he was doing his practice. Would he have had great regret for the problem there? [Laughs] [Laugher]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the-- what we are discussing is not black and white and not prescription. And you can't really rely-- follow that kind of line. It had to be worked out very flexible situations. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1115.0,1151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It seems to me that all of the difficulties have been-- all of the major difficulties between people, and especially between different generations, is that feeling of guilt. That doesn't serve any good purpose, but nevertheless it always seems to be there. It just serves to perpetuate the same situation, but people this group you have your parents feel guilty about their offspring and the children feel guilty about the parents.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in fact there are two types of individuals, it seems. That those who are aware of the cause and effect, and those who take notice of the cause and effect, feel more guilty. But those who are purely wanted to grasp and run away and just want to do your own thing, and there's no guilt at all. Very tough. And absolutely no considerations; you just go ahead and do what you like. Without anything of those nature. And even that person might have to go through long time of taking trouble of getting what they want, inflict their pain on the others, but still they will be delighted once they got it. There's no guilt at all. And that kind of-- two types of person, is kind of soft and hard person.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut guilt generally, is not... fundamentally not particularly healthy. Because it has the quality of condemning whatever happens, and not seeing inspiration or positive aspect. And often guilt conscience is-- comes from self-hate. Condemning oneself constantly. Well, I suppose you can only work this way through by seeing the chaotic situations are not punishment, but it's a stepping-stone. Probably you could work from that way, seeing the positive situations within negatives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1151.0,1307.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does one have to be free of one's own tank? And this is with reference to Wednesday. [see Community Talk: Tank  Technique] We spoke of three stages: first of dealing with oneself, making friends with one's own attributes, and feeling like one's tank so to speak. And then helping others in an ordinary way. And then selfless help is the second one, helping other people -- I don't know if I understood it. But is that-- is it possible, for instance, for me, having a tank so to speak, to be of any help to my parents, or does that have to wait until later?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Be tank to your parents?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say being \"tank\" to your parents?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I said, can I be of any help to my parents before. And are these staying as separate: dealing with myself, helping other people at an ordinary level, and then self? Are they separate? Does one have to be-- do I have to be free from my tank before I can be of any help to my parents, in the way you were speaking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. It's-- you see, helping means you have to also get their acknowledgement of you, before you begin to help them. So that there should be some room for them to acknowledge you. That means that you are-- you are not playing sort of bulldozer technique to them. So they don't have to become defensive of you. I mean that's just common sense. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1307.0,1416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It's funny, though. When you-- when one tries-- at least when I've tried to, over the years, to communicate to my parents about meditation and so on, I find myself taking two lines. One that: \"buy it\". In other words, you have to prove to them that it will benefit, that it has benefit, you know. You have to say either that it makes you a basically sounder human being, or that it gives you more energy to do something. In other words, there's this real basic misunderstanding about what it is you're doing when you-- when this, you know, this-- floor, you're just sitting and doing nothing. And what good is it? And I mean, why, you know? Why don't you just go out and work and, you know, you'd be like a normal human being, and grow up, and learn that way? I mean what is it doing? Sure I can see it makes you have a smile on your face and you're less tense and you get happier, but that's very egocentric. I mean what is it really doing? And that's the big-- at least that I find, the big problem in communicating. Because it gets just to one point where both groups throw up their hands, and you're left with the same basic misunderstanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there are lots of misunderstandings built around, partly, sort of uneducated style, of that, I mean, in other word, the informations are wrong. Ideas are wrong. That when we talk about meditation, and becoming a religious person, that automatically should mean that give up anything to do with the world. Run away from world. And just be happy, and get absorbed into a state of bliss, or whatever it's may be. I think that's kind of not having enough informations to them. It's pure, sort of sheer educational problem. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then there's another thing is, that ignorance could be used as basic logic for them, because they will be happier to have something to live on, something to believe. So ignorance provide a stepping stone for them, some logic to go back to. Whenever anything is mysterious or beyond your comprehension, you immediately get-- go back to that, your original framework of mind. And that sort of happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd a lot of people find that, in fact, their children cannot talk to their parents, but some friends could talk to them and explain to them. Because they have less defensive mechanisms built around their friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1416.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I think one mistake, you know, from my perspective, that actually when people are trying to explain meditation is that they're trying to explain it through like a Hindu logic or a Buddhist logic. Instead of your parents', you know, religion's logic, like a Catholic or a Christian logic. That if you use their religion to show them what meditation is, they can relate to that. Whereas you have both of them so you don't need to describe it [INAUDIBLE] in their religion's perspective.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's true. That's true. In fact that's how Buddhism came to the West altogether at the beginning. At the beginning people introduced sort of comparative ideas of Buddhism. And then that begin to accept it. I think like lot of works done by the Theosophists, in the beginning of the century. And other inter-religious communities, groups, schools, have presented that idea, which brought Buddhism into the West. And that seem to be the basic point of-- I mean, such evolutionary process could take also place in the individual sense, dealing with one's own parents. Dealing with the-- their situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1621.0,1705.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there any point in trying to cultivate a kind of apologetic feeling about the fact that we're sitting here in a kind of easy life, and our friends and parents are out in the world struggling without the benefits of meditation? That we are sort of taking a easy way out, just by the circumstances that we happened to run into you for example? [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] You know, and that they weren't as lucky. And that we've forced them, in a sense, to do the work, and do the suffering? Is there any room for, like, cultivating an apologetic attitude for being in the religious life? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Laughter] Definitely, yeah. That's why we are talking about money. [Laughter] Definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see there's a tendency of-- that you are different, and you're being different, from anybody else. But still, on the other hand you are not different at all: you have to eat, you have to sleep, you need a roof. So from human point of view it's no different. But from the extra point of view, that we are different, we have more sophisticated ideas of that and this, world and mind, and so on, so on. But somehow that had to be translated in terms of what is the sameness quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1705.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, you used to often talk about that the way is to really go into your particular samsara. And-- but why can't you carry this to the extreme and just-- I mean, for instance, I've just taken a trip down to Boston last night, and met some old friends. And realized that in a sense there's much more scope for going into suffering there than there is here. And you could go even further than that. You could say that, probably, in the ghetto of Harlem, of New York City, say, there's much more scope. So why do we come to here? Why don't we going to find the worst place in the world, and, I mean, adopt the worst that the world can give a human? I mean why don't I really give up-- I mean, I'm not saying I could, but if I could, wouldn't that be the best way? To really become a beggar in the worst city in the world? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on what for. Why would you do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD What for?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What for, yeah. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Because the way is I could see one's suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: To see one's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: --suffering and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: --that might-- that would give you more scope.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's perfectly true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1813.0,1901.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Could that be dealt with in terms of a retreat?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, there's no way of justifying, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see that the-- I mean, you being with your friends for-- before you came here. And you said you realized that there was more scope. So it's creating that kind of situation. That we have to get into some kind of training ground, to see the right perspective. You have to gain the wisdom eye, that you have the possibilities of seeing that situation. And then, that's precisely that I hope people could go back to world.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: And then you come here in order to be able to-- later, to be able to see the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah, exactly. JEREMY HAYWARD: --more clearly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you can volunteer. [Laughs] Later on. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1901.0,1968.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In your seminar on meditation, you made three general steps that we kind of take, I guess, between hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana, of walking, learning to dance, and learning to fly. And say that we have to-- you know if we try and do something before we're ready, if we try and dance before we can walk, we're going to fall down and hurt our heads or something. And this is what I think we're doing here, we're-- We have to separate ourselves from each problem-- from the larger problems, to deal with this, so that it can at least stand on its own two feet. And then you can offer-- then it can *do* something. I mean, it's no good going to a city and being a beggar if you're just going to eat up more food.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean, there's not enough food there now, and you're, you know, you have to have something to offer. I think this-- you know what we're gaining in strength and abilities so that we *can* do something. Like-- as someone said -- I don't know the exact story, but some guy came to a Zen master and says \"I want to help humanity, what may I do?\" and he says \"Well what *can* you do?\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seemed to [INAUDIBLE] the situation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you have to grow up before you do that. That's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How do we grow up?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, how do we grow up? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess as good as mine. [Laughter; laughs] I know myself very well, and you know yourself very well. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1968.0,2087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It seems to me a lot of people I know, and myself too, that a fundamental aspect of all their difficulty is to have certain very strong negative feelings, like fear or anger, sadness, whatever. And they don't know whether they want to get into these feelings or escape them. And, it seems like it's a practical problem. I'm somewhat torn between feeling that, hoping that you can contemplate upon these feelings, and cope with them somehow that way. On the other hand, it's a matter of-- there's a possibility of expression of some kind. I think this is even a physical matter, this body. Whether to-- not to transcend some feeling. Let's say like a very deep feeling of anger that may come from as far back as an infant, toddler [INAUDIBLE]; it's not like something is bugging you now that you think [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nAs long as that's avoided, there doesn't seem to be any growth. One isn't open, one can't open. Because becoming open to the outside means becoming open to this thing inside, and it comes up in some form. And people don't know what to do about that. What ideas do you have about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can anybody else answer that question? Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems like last night you were saying that very point. The thing we have to decide is whether we're going to approach everything in terms of peace and light and happiness, or we're going to deal with the mandala of energy, and being able to deal with anger and all the human kinds of feelings that come up. And *not* neglect them, and not try to push them under the carpet, but try to deal with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah, that's what I am talking about, how you deal with them, when you are resolved to deal with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That seems to be the whole thing. I mean, it's-- at least what I've heard said is to not be afraid to let out-- to let it come out, the anger and the fear, and be-- And somehow by letting it happen, develop the ability to watch it, for just what it is. In other words it's always the-- seems to be the ability to not become attached to it as particularly *yours*. But to just let it happen, as some kind of energy that's in situations. I mean it's-- there's no simple way to say how to deal with it, because that seems to be what Rinpoche talks about over and over and over and over and over. You know, it's really, [laughter] and it's like the key to every seminar in a sense, you know, how to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2087.0,2300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, I think a lot of people's aversion to meditation may be that there seems to be an emphasis on stillness and silence in meditation. Whereas the expression of a feeling is quite opposite: it's emotion and sound.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But the meditation is not therapy, not sedative. But meditation is-- we been running so fast, that we didn't let ourselves go-- selves grow. So it's allow some space to grow something. And on the process of growing, also there had to be certain things being suppressed, certain things that are been ignored. Fundamental aggression, desire, ignorance. On the process of growing up, they have to come out as well. So, so that seem to be the key point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo therefore meditation in this way of looking at, is a churning out, unlearn, undo, all the time. So aggression -- if aggression comes, one could relate with aggression, because the general tendency is that there is a power game between identity and its expression. That sometime identity feels-- identity is undermined by the expressions, so feels defeated. And sometime identity feels that expression is not dramatic enough, you feel bored. And there's a conflict between the two. It's like a conflict between the king and his minister, who has the most power.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes it does.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So the problem is not so much of the aggression itself, but the problem is relationship to aggression and the identity. That if you are able to relate with aggression in the ordinary sense, direct sense -- without preconception, without criteria, without concepts -- then you see aggression is very naked aggression, simple aggression, instinctive one, very ordinary one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Like a baby.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. And then somehow, the aim and object of aggression is to rouse *you*. So if you become part of that aggression, and seeing clearly as it is, then aggression has no one to rouse off. So aggression becomes a bundle of energy. And the act of murdering somebody becomes irrelevant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And you say watch it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say watch it; it's very sort of precise maneuvering process, of getting into the heart of the aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2300.0,2518.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: At the base of that vibration there's still a basic sanity that can be reached if we just deal with the-- it's like, almost all of that stuff-- Well, from in here anyway, it seems like when I get angry it's a gut reaction, and it's a painful reaction, and an unpleasant one that I habitually throw out, try and scratch it by throwing it out. And it seems be a way that some point or other I can't control it, that it just takes off until there's a break. But if you can get it at the-- at-- you know, when it's-- if you can catch it in the gut, you can kind of feel it and experience it. And possibly, somehow, get back to that basic sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can, yeah. That's what we described in the teachings as the... \"tathata\" of the desire, or \"tathata\" of the aggression. \"Tathata\" means the \"is-ness\" quality, the heart of the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's just so fast, it's awfully difficult to catch it. The habitual pattern is just so strong. I think it's more than one lifetime of building up that -- or whatever it comes [INAUDIBLE] so fast. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's where problem begins, when we become too ambitious to escalate the whole thing at once. We couldn't do that, impossible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2518.0,2618.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: When I was speaking of the expression of it, I didn't necessarily mean acting it out, to the point of, say, committing a murder. It seems to me there might be something between acting out, which produces the whole further karma, and suppression. In other words, expression may be-- there may be some pure form of expression possible. Which doesn't have any consequence, but allows the aggression or whatever feeling to fully blossom, to release itself. In other words I think that's the problem, is that most people see-- either going to be suppressed or it's going to be acted out--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --dangerously. Then this-- then they're caught. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah. This-- I mean, yeah, it-- there's no way of relating to them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Usually the pers-- basic problem is that person could deal with subtle and seemingly insignificant aggressions, which have the-- which has the all the potentials of the greater aggression. Little things like a drafty window, or bug crawling up your leg.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That kind of irritation and little aggression is full grown aggression, in its own nature. But because of our attitude towards it, which we regard as insignificant thing, therefore that aggression has more open exits. That we could get into it, and work with it. So the-- therefore dealing with the less significant aggressions, and see that is-ness quality in that aggression, step-by-step, so finally the greater ones could be also seen in the same way. Whereas if you trying to work with the greater ones at once, immediately, then you be pushed back automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2618.0,2751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Could we talk quite specifically about meaning, say, since the bug is bothering me, the number of possibilities. I mean, you can try to kill the bug, you can try to be absolutely still, you can jump around, you can scream, I mean there are quite a lot of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Do you think these choices are really different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, I mean, you don't go to the extreme of killing the bug. Or you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I'm saying what's between killing the bug--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --and just being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or else you don't have to let it crawl up your leg. I mean, physical act doesn't mean very much in this case. And you could remove the bug, but the-- still the irritation is there. And just working with that irritation, getting to the heart of that irritation. So in other word, you are looking back from the irritation, to you, so you don't see yourself anymore, because you are looking back from there. So irritation becomes then something quite different. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But I'm asking, still, when you do do that, does the irritation find an expression or does it find a quiescence? I mean, is it-- when you do-- that much has followed, turning back into the irritation. It seems then there's a possibility the irritation is transcended, or it seems a possibility that it finds an expression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Irritation, if you deal with it, just naked irritation as it is, and work with it, irritation becomes energy. Continual energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2751.0,2842.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Ok then again, well then l'll ask the same thing about the energy, in other words. Does the energy simply-- does it just remain as energy, or must it have some channel, some expression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm sure the situation provides next time-- I mean, minute when you move-- removed the bug from your legs there will be something else. [Laughs; laughter] It goes on. But that doesn't mean to say that irrit-- the energy is transformed into sort of biased, spiritual thing, necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's-- the other aspect is that you could work, deal with the energy, deal with aggression, and then you congratulate yourself. Then you become really peaceful. [Laughter] Feels good. But there's something fishy about that. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2842.0,2902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It seems like it's always too late. [Laughter] Since we spoke Wednesday about making friends with-- not torturing oneself about-- in other words if I'm a fool or if I'm aggressive, not torture myself about it afterwards. When they come up, the little type-- little ones, of the type you're speaking of, little aggressions of various sorts, little foolishnesses -- they happen, and then something [INAUDIBLE] fool you know, feels bad about it. And then something remembers what you said, and it's too late. [Laughter] That kind of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think it's too late--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To make friends with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's not too late. It's right on the spot, even if you think it's too late. But you are dealing with something. I mean you don't have to catch, like catching fish all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't have to catch the fish right at the time of catching the fish?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2902.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do-- would it help, in this tendency we have to escalate and very quickly attain and get away from all this, to remember back that we've always been foolish and aggressive? And that it's a very-- we're taking part in something very gradual right now? You've spoken about not looking back, but it seems, in terms of the-- that if I remember that I've always been a spoiled child, and that I am. And that when I began meditating or took acid, that there was no big change in me. That instead of throwing that past away, if I keep it it seems that the outside is not so outside, that the interdependence is more present.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, what I'm ask-- you say, \"don't look back.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But I wonder if there isn't a kind of exercise in actually looking back.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exercise?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. Like they sat down and remembered past lives, in the Buddha's time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, we can't do that. But we can look at how there was no big change, and so we can get the emphasis off of... One of the things that gets away when I try-- gets in my way is I try to break through while sitting, try to make something big happen. And miss the or-- the simple ordinary things you talk about. Because I'm pushing it, running too fast. But I wonder if a cure, a partial help for that speed, isn't looking back to see how gradual this has all been to get us here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that kind of-- do you mean in terms of development? Or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well that kind of, sort of reference point comes anyway. I mean there will be occasional looking back. These sort of changes that one has been taken, you know, and situations developed that way. But I don't think any point of just making thing of it. You see once you begin to relate back, then you also wanted to go ahead as well at the same time. There's that tendency as well. \"How much I have developed in the past, therefore how far could I go?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But doesn't looking back help to show how much I *haven't* developed, over the past? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And that-- so that I don't have so far to go. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I mean if it's taken me a hundred billion years to get *here*--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I guess so! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where did you start from?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't know. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see that's the point. If you look back, you have to relate with the now, and then back. So you still need now, anyway; a starting point, let's say. So you are not really looking back; you are looking back in terms of now, as it was. So you are still looking at the present moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So by intensely looking at the present moment, this understanding of the past just arises of itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's there, yeah. Otherwise it wouldn't be present. Since it's not future. [Laughter][laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=2976.0,3243.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You mentioned the soft people and hard people. And I'm concerned about this because I think it is a very tough situation here, and I expect it's going to get tougher all the time. And I think I'm a soft person. Is there something that one can do about it? Or is the softness simply associated with some idea I have about myself that is not necessarily so? I mean, you know, being very nice and all that [laughter] [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Don't worry. You're fine. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I don't-- I'm astonished hearing people say that it's so easy here. I don't think it's easy at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I think every single thing is done out from under one's feet, so why is it easy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You find yourself hanging in mid-air.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. There is the story of Atisha Dipankara, who was an Indian teacher, who decide to go to Tibet and teach. And he heard of Tibetans being very kind and gentle hospitable people. And he thought he wouldn't have any chance to practice his patience. [Laughter] And he brought his Bengali servant with him, very short-tempered. [Laughter] And, when he got to Tibet, he said \"I needn't have brought my servant. There are plenty of people to practice my patience in this country as well.\" [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo there will be always something. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3243.0,3358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is it that we attract the kind of problem that we need to solve?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean we don't attract the problems specially. But we are aware of the sensitivity situations, with the problems, so problems seem to become more outstanding. It's more obvious. It's like when person begin to learn, that he finds that how stupid he is, how much mistakes he can make, how clumsy he is in the process of learning. Which doesn't mean to say that a person is going backward, but he begin to acknowledge, he begin to realize there *is* such situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3358.0,3417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well what's this decision we have to make? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What decision?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You started out by saying it's-- we need some-- make some decision.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Conclusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Conclusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I don't know! [Laughter] About the seminar or something. About...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are we making it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seemed we are getting to sidetrack. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3417.0,3448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, is it all right to flirt with the city?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Flirt?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, like I mean, I get most of my money from the city. And I could go down there and, you know, do a show or something, and I'm dealing with this very high energy situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, we all do that. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And you know, and I find that, you know, I'll go down there with maybe with some mistaken idea that I can stand on my own feet while I'm there and be somewhat communicative. But, you know, it's an obvious self-deception which a few days there shows me. That I'm immediately sucked into a situation which are *not* communicative. which are not-- you know. That after, say, two days or three days, I come crawling back to my home, you know, and start learning to walk again. I-- you know, I constantly-- I see this kind-- this pattern happening for, like the last year or so anyway. And is-- you know, like there's no use in putting yourself in a situation if you're not going to be of some service to it. You know, like if you're just adding to the-- like your presence is adding to the problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean the problem being the suffering of the mind. You know, it's best to withdraw at that point, isn't it? If you're aware that, you know, like, there's really-- you're just not strong enough to do anything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that threshold it comes when moment when you try to withdraw, trying to step back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The moment when what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to step back. That you sense something is not working well. That there is a possibility of something that might coming through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE1: Could you do it another way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, whenever you feel that something, some situation's develops and you feel that you have to step back. Maybe-- that particular situation may not be-- may not going to turn out as bad as you think, but you are just about to discover something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well I wasn't thinking basically of just one given situation, but I-- [INAUDIBLE] Like say after-- as I feel like, three days in New York is about it, for this one. After that, I'm looking for a movie to go to; I'm off to a Chinese restaurant every night. And I was having a great time, you know, I mean but-- becau-- that seems to be-- you know like I'd start, you know-- Because everybody that deals with you is seeing something. You know, they're seeing, you know, like they're telling you who you are, and what you should be doing. And I'm very-- you know, like I like Chinese food. I like movies and stuff like that, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --for about three days I'm all right. But then I go on this complete self-indulgence situation that-- It breaks by my, you know, crawling back and fasting for a few days and... [laughs] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean it's a-- it's not this fierce... It's a comic horror show, depending on whose side you're on. You know, at one level it's a horror show and another level an obvious comedy, of the predicament that I constantly fall into. And, you know, I'll go back to it, and like it used to be two days; I can handle it now for about three days, before I run like crazy to the nearest television set or just [laughs]...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What's wrong with that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What do you think those people do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well that's what they're doing, I mean, I have no complaints with them. I mean...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3448.0,3725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well, I live and work in New York City. [Laughter] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And it comes across, the thing that came across last night, it was that people saw, when they were talking about society as inspiring, the only thing inspiring about society was this quality of the charnel ground. But Rinpoche alluded to other things. And it seems that there are very positive things in society and in civilization. And there's, you know, the scientific approach to medicine, there's the scientific approach to farming, livestock breeding, which has created greater [INAUDIBLE]. There's technology, which is used for all kinds of things; among other things, things that propagate the teachings, or automobiles, and radio technicians--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah right, great communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And things that-- I was listening, just before I came up here, a couple days, to the very end of the Christmas seminar on Battle of Ego, where the question was raised: what do we say about an apparently successful businessman who gets on in his life really pretty well. He handles things in a sort of straightforward, basically sane way somehow, with really [INAUDIBLE] mind his spiritual life, but seems to handle things in a straightforward way. We aren't exactly into that, in some sense. And we find his kind of life unsatisfying, or it's impossible for us to convene, or we're only marginally adjusted to that kind of life, and so we project all kinds of negative things in there. And it seems that-- certainly, it seems to me that people's views here of New York City is dominated by their projections. They seem to sense a lot of things that I don't think particularly sense. I mean, there are, you know, a couple of cars have been stolen on our street, and periodically people in our building are mugged, and our building gets burglarized, but... [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3725.0,3842.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But that wasn't what I was referring to. I mean, I-- that fierceness of the city, the hostility of the city doesn't particularly bother me. I mean, I'm not really afraid of that. But I find myself terrified of the seductive quality of the city. I mean, like, I see New York City as a gigantic whore in a way. [Laughter] You're constantly being entertained in one way or another. It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's frantic, frantic. The whole communal mind there is one grasping for entertainment of one type or another. And I have enough problems with that. [Laughs] You know, like that's not peculiar to the city, it's just awfully fierce in the city. I mean, I have this-- you know, I have the same thing, that I'm constantly looking for entertainment here. But I can-- it's less that where I can deal with it. Somewhat, you know, as well as I can. But I get-- you know, after about three days in New York I'm completely caught up in this fierceness of self-indulgence, which is prevalent there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You know, you can't fool all the people all the time. I mean something does come out of that, which is really real, and can be worked on--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, it's delicate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well, not really. It's not so closed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that things based on a... I think one situation is that we do try to entertain ourselves all the time, particularly in the Western world. There are hundreds of books, and hundreds of pictures, and hundreds of different types of friends, eccentrics, sort of into all sorts of different things. And then there's the telephone; you can make call. Then there's newspaper. And all sorts of things happen, that even at the moment, right now we are having entertainment situations. It's constantly occupied, our time, entertained. Constantly. And somehow that-- when that begin to become very obvious, and self-spoken, in terms of being in New York, that we find it too irritating. Because that kind of gradual self-deception is too obvious there, it's too painful. Because that's too true to be true. [Laughter] It's coming on, so we have to run back. And it feels better, be run back to the-- our own deceptions. That we be entertained a genteel way, or spiritual way. [Laughter] Rather than gaudy, and flashy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I see that too, but I mean-- [laughter] not even-- but if those are the-- well if it's genteel, it's like the insect. You know, it's like, you can deal with it somewhat -- maybe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But this terrific fierceness...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's just like, you know, like-- especially if you're in this instant state where--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's mind-world. World created by mind, very efficiently.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But could it be that, just by the nature of the fact that you can't deal with these things in the city, makes one finally realize that he really wasn't dealing with it at any point at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get at. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But even if you've had that realization, there's still a terrific struggle. I mean, like, I can see my-- I can watch myself at home, and I can sit home, alone, you know. Like, \"What do I do now?\" All right? And I have all my toys-- [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Isn't that what you call speed?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And you know, but, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Call what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Speed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --it's gentle enough that finally I get a little bit sick of myself doing that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --and examine it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=3842.0,4090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Perhaps we haven't allowed ourselves to be sufficiently entertained? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ah. [Laughs; laughter] Yeah, that's good one, yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It seems that if you're sufficiently entertained you start getting bored with it and you look for something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: If you're sufficiently entertained, in a particular way, you get bored with it, and you look for something else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Like, if a loud situation bores you, you go to a quiet one. Until that bores you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You go back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You go back to a loud one and, you know, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --where does it all stop, or lead to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe it doesn't have to stop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We could free ourselves and could deal with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that there's a tremendous lack of sense of humor in the-- throughout the whole thing we've been talking about it. That you are being entertained seriously. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Go to a bar.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Even by a comedy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Somehow I'm not bored with that yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you are not looking for results anymore. You see the ironical situation as it is: they come and they go. And if you see the whole television show, including the ads and everything, if you deal with a sense of humor and if you deal with a-- you don't have to be cynical in sense of humor, but as play, you enjoy thoroughly everything. Whereas if you have your own thing and your own thing you don't like, you laugh occasionally but you turn it off occasionally. Then you begin to select your things. Whole thing begin to become then very tiring, because you are selecting the whole situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yeah, but you only keep laughing by getting very serious sometime. And if you never get serious you don't laugh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, yeah. You don't have to laugh to develop sense of humor. [Laughs; laughter] Sort of all-pervading grin. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4090.0,4301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART ONE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perhaps we should get into our subject. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose we have to look into the karmic situations that we been discussing altogether, the-- before we get into the details of application of... work, sex, and money. That people might ask question that, \"Why they should be necessary to work? Why should sex include in it? Why should money come into it?\" I mean, that's looking from a very idealistic point of view, that it seems that work does include -- depends on what work we discuss-- work doesn't include, except bare minimum. And sex doesn't include, if you are on the spiritual path, because that is a source of pain, and complicated relationships. All sorts of hang-ups involved with it. And certainly money shouldn't be included, at all. That's the thing which corrupts people from-- thing which brings people down, rather than high in the spirituality. Immediately there is a relationship situation of somebody is owing money to somebody. And money purely is just become-- representing the whole worldliness of it, whole worldly thing. So money shouldn't included in a spiritual path.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then... I think we are talking about different kind of spiritual path in that case. That we are talking in terms of creating good karma. Good karmic situation. That we are trying to escape from anything ugly, anything bad, painful. That spirituality in this case is a purely pleasurable one. You enter into a state of meditation, and you reach into state of \"jhanas\", \"absorption\", and go into all sorts of ecstasies. And finally get drunk, high, in a state of jhana. Once you are high into the ultimate bliss of the jhana, of course we don't have to work, we don't need money, we don't need sex. [Laughs] Whenever anything runs-- whenever your bliss runs down, you recharge it again. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nOf course, not being nuisance to other people. And we could give the expression of a state of bliss, which is a nice, pious smile, kind. Because you have no fear of trodding on anybody's toe, because we are not involved with the sex, we are not involved with the money, and we are not involved with the work. So you don't have to protect yourself from anywhere. You are a free man. It's a beautiful world. How about that? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4301.0,4602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Seems to be the classic Hindu view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems to be the classic Hindu view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Classic anybody's view. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It lacks in dignity somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It lacks in dignity, somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we are not talking about dignity from this point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, you know, like that may be okay, but nonetheless, if you have certain things, or feelings, you can't really enjoy-- how can you-- how can one guy sit in a blissful state while children are starving in Biafra? I mean this is pretty far out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's exactly your parents will say. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's what I say too!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. If you have a child doing the same thing, would you say that to him?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But it seems to be a bit materialistic. It really does.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems to be spiritually materialistic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think a balancing act is-- seems to be needed somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, whether or not you're blissful doesn't affect a child in Biafra, can it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No, but it's an inactive, passive, physical cop-out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, if you were meditating--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4602.0,4689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean, there's work to be done, there really is. I mean, you know, there are situations where you're needed. It's not a giving process. It's not a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we are working on good karma, you see. That's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well... [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That like-- that's also--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, the whole point is that life-- everybody's searching for something in life. Of course, we are. We are trying to gain something, attain something. And that is happiness. If you could approach happiness from the backyard, dealing with the mind, into the jhana state, meditative state, we *have* attained happiness. So, we have fulfilled every desires that exist in the world -- in a transcendental way of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, it doesn't sound too encouraging.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4689.0,4749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean, how about the rest of the man? I mean, you know, like we-- I mean, granted, you can be sitting in the womb of the universe in a, you know, perfect blissful state, but that's hardly, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It doesn't seem to be very manly somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe certain jhana states bring you back to the womb.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, well, I mean-- yeah but I'm granting that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --but that doesn't-- you know, how about the [INAUDIBLE]? You still have to be a man, in my opinion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. But still that we are involved with dealing with the good karma, and we are not hurting fly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: All right, so what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] So we are not doing anything bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Sure, you're not adding to the problem, but the-- you know like, if you're not part of the solution, so, you know, you could-- you're making-- You know, like, if somebody can sit around in that state all the time, that's great as far as I'm concerned, [laughter] but it's so freaked I don't want to want to hang out. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] Maybe you're not in it yet. Once you're there, probably you wanted to stay in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I mean, unless there's some irritation that comes up one would want to stay in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah, I mean it's perpetual.... Of course, it goes down, but you can recharge it.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Are you serious about this or are you talking fun? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4749.0,4855.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There would seem to be a more active way of pursuing the same goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, same goal. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That-- you-- that by taking the whole man into that state, rather than just the mind. You know, using the separation, the-- for the second-- so that one might-- you know that there's still, you know, like, there-- A man has a need for nobility, say. I mean that we-- I think that's one thing that attracts all of us to the Buddhist dharma, is that it presents us a very noble ideal that we can climb towards. And this seems to be a need which, you know, if fulfilled might be blissful and all that sort of thing, but it's an active approach. One stands on his feet as well as within the lotus. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] In the lotus field. Because there are situations coming up that-- to work through. And there is a happiness, perhaps in-- you know, there is a bliss in doing this.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Do you mean like--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Maybe not a totally absorbed bliss, but there is a bliss in giving away the bliss perhaps. Give it up!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4855.0,4937.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Can this goal be very similar to the same-- this searching for a goal, be the same kind of concept as searching for some sort of entertainment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Which may inevitably just turn out to be something very boring, and you'll have to try something else, and then it's another [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think that's the classic mahayana view of the hinayana tradition. [Laughter] That-- you know, they enter into a blissful state for [INAUDIBLE] reborn, you know. It doesn't end where the Southern Buddhists say that it does end. But there's an ignorance at that point. Granting that it is a very far out place to be, but nonetheless that the view is [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the-- any kind of religious point of view, that's kind of bliss goal oriented, any kind of religious, spiritual path has that element in it as well, including Buddhism, Hinduism, Muslim, Christianity. People could misunderstand Meister Eckhart for instance; in his writings that he talks about, in this-- the beauty of being with presence, all-pervading presence. It seem that-- there seem to be great danger on the Christian mysticism -- as well as any kind of mysticism -- that is being worked on purely based on a search for pleasure, bliss, or kindness. That you are on the side of God. Defeating-- you are about to destroy Satan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=4937.0,5074.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm reminded of a Sufi prayer that blew my mind, and it seems to fit. That this guy was praying -- or at least it was reported that he was -- and he said, \"Dear God, if I worship you out of fear of hell, please cast me into it. And if I worship you out of a desire for paradise, please deny me it.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ah, that's getting into another territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Which, you know, that somebody could say that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's getting into another territory. There's always that quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nOf course the Buddhism begins quite differently, than any other religion. Begins very atheistic way, of whole inspiration, revelation comes from pain, suffering. Then you look for the origin of suffering, and then you discover the cessation of suffering, then you discover the path. So the whole thing is geared to anti-suffering, from that point of view. If you look at from that point of view, that whole Buddhism is based on anti-suffering, which is exactly same as what's been taught by other traditions, Hinduism or whatever is may be. That ultimate aim and goal and object is pleasure. That make sure that pleasure lasts longer. In order to last this pleasure longer, you can only do is not sow any bad karma, so that our positive good karma perpetually grant us good results, so we live on that territory, perpetually. But we have to maintain that, but that seem to be...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=5074.0,5191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If we can give up the good karma, then we don't have to worry about it. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's another subject. [Laughs] That's why we're trying to get into.\r\n\r\n\r\nYes? Other peoples?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I didn't hear you say that one had to sit still to maintain this state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You didn't what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I don't think I've heard you say that one had to sit still, that one couldn't be active, in maintaining this blissful state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I'm not saying it, but I'm just relating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I was just wondering, because of all discussion about being active or not adding to society.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that question comes later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=5191.0,5235.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If you take someone like Ramakrishna, I mean, the guy couldn't function. You know, he'd look at somebody and flip into a state of samadhi where he'd be totally unaware of, you know, of his surroundings or some time would pass. He certainly couldn't function, given that. I mean he was beautiful, you know, it's not a criticism. But there is a difference in approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: A lot of people follow him though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yes, well... [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But there is, but there-- I forgot which sutra there-- it's in, but the Buddha speaks of that being a particular-- that thing of falling into these states accidentally, and this intoxication. There's that one sutra where the Buddha says something about how to avoid that and go beyond it, because it's definitely not the end.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's... I mean, the same thing could be said of Buddha himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, he always went into samadhi before his sermons.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That he always goes into samadhi before his sermons for a bit. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not only that but he goes on perpetually. Sometime he creates the situations, and somewhat the sutras are not his words at all. He creates situations, he sits at the back; his two students, disciples, would have a discussion. Like Heart Sutra, for instance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But he was never unconscious of his surroundings.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: He was never-- it's never reported that he was unconscious of his surroundings.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Whereas, you know, Ramakrishna by his own admission would lose all awareness of what was happening around him. He was in such total absorption.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's a misinterpretation. Because the students felt the world is so bad, if he is able to step out of the world, the painful world, that that's why he's good and that's why he's a great teacher. There should be something more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=5235.0,5361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART TWO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then... [Laughs] We-- the discussion is based on this karma, good karma. Do we want to perpetually create good karma? Just purely sick, or not involved with the work, sex, or money. And quite likely that we would wanted to have some safe place to be. And particularly the meditative state is very, perpetually pleasurable, all the time. But then, the interesting point is that that pleasure of absorption contains faint, very faint notion of paranoia, always. Otherwise you won't enjoy the pleasure. You have to have a criteria to enjoy it. That's why there's something that is unenjoyable just about to approach, therefore we're happier. Bang your head on the wall -- feel better, of course. [Laughs; laughter] It's not as crude as that. Should respect that. [Laughs; laughter] But still [laughs] -- if I may say so [laughter] -- that there is a faint notion of maintaining, the maintenance.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's like if you enjoy having a huge house -- central-heated, beautifully decorated, there everything. You enjoy your house, you enjoy your domain-- demain? Domain?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Domain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Domain. [Laughs] At the same time, in order to maintain that house, that the person will be constantly-- usually only efficient person would have such house, only paranoid people would have such house. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to create such a beautiful place at all unless he looked in every inch, every corner, that everything's pleasurable and beautifully set. [Laughter] He is constantly making sure that his insurance been paid, in case of fire. He must have maintenance of the house, maids and everything, everybody's being paid, house is being kept clean, central heating is running, air conditioning or whatever is may be. Everything is being taken care of, constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the pleasure [laughter] comes from being checked in every corner. Otherwise you can't have pleasure, unless there is the possibilities of pain or some subtle pain, that person wouldn't appreciate pleasure at all. So in order to have absolute, perfect pleasure, there should be absolute and perfect paranoia to go along with it. [Baby cries] [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that's kind of a spiritual pleasure, could be also worked out in the material pleasure, exactly the same style, same logic, and including insurance policy that is there always. That you wanted to remain that state of blissful, in case of any other alternatives comes, which you don't want to. Completely sealed off. So a person is not *really* state of equilibrium at all, absolute equilibrium.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo therefore, what we are trying to talk about, work at: is there any possibilities of ending that rat race? Not purely sake of higher pleasure, or higher pain, but just purely sake of becoming more realistic? So there's a possibilities of transcending both good and bad karma. And both good and bad karma, as we've already gone through come from this repetitive pattern. That means that any psychic powers or any spiritual-- higher spiritual powers cannot transcend good and bad karma. In order to deal with the good *and* bad karma together, equally, had to be worked on the earth level, level of earth. Basic ground of earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich also means that there is intelligence that you have to work along with. That particular intelligence, of seeing the foolishness of searching for good karma, or bad one. Somehow the course of karma must be worked. This basic nitty-gritty. We are not working on work, sex and money just purely to relief of karma alone. But we trying to work onto the situation that how all these topics could... present, actual in touch with the reality; very scientific.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat reality depends on body, speech, mind, behavior, emotions, and everything. You see there's another point that you might say that as long as there is emotions, as long as there's a body, as long as there's a mind, does that mean that there's also some karma that we have to work through? Not necessarily. Body is just body, free of karma. Mechanical thing -- just a certain chemistry that happens to exist on this planet. Mind perpetually goes, and develops itself -- it needn't be connected with the karma. Just perpetually develops, flashes all sorts of ideas instantaneously. And speech is play between the two, which also happens. As long as mind is active, the body is active, it happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nReason why that is body and mind are not connected with the karma, personally so to speak, is that the volitional action begins-- it begins with attitude, it begins with the concept. So we have the conceptualized body, conceptualized mind, which brings the conceptualized words, speech. So the whole basic criteria of karma is concepts. And that concept begin to operate, including the concept of being high and pleasurable, or suffering and low. All that concepts perpetually sow certain amount of seed into the basic mind, the basic -- what you call -- growth. The abstract growth of energy. And then, karma can only function and take its place. Either in terms of physically you been injured, physically you are been pleasurable; mentally you been painful, or mentally you been pleasurable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that whole point that what we are talking in terms of this case is that we are talking about concepts. The concepts comes from bewilderment, of not knowing where we are, where we at, who we are, what we are doing, absolutely knowing nothing, complete bewildered but all thing's coming to you. Which is called ignorance. And that bewilderment, of not knowing what we are, who we are, then we have to find the nearest situation. Is trying to lay some footholds in some situations. And we call, \"This is me. This is that. My projections, my house, my family, my enemies, my friends.\" Immediately set this set pattern. And when these interchanges going on, is much more convenient to work your way through. But still we haven't solved the basic bewilderment at all. Whole thing of inspiration of karma is basically this bewilderment. That's why it is so pleasurable to find spiritual pleasure, and so painful to find samsaric pain. Of course the spirituality and samsara is also based on that concept we happens to be found very conveniently.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo there we are. So what can we do about it? Any... [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=5361.0,6121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Well, it seems like if that's so, we have to stay with the bewilderment. You know, if we keep needing bewilderment we can't do anything about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't do anything about it, that's true, yeah. You can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6121.0,6132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Shouldn't-- can't we find the-- like, we had this total bliss on one side without pain, and the nirvanic state. And then we have the samsaric, painful, negative, neurotic-- I don't know, but I don't know what you want to call it. Painful in any case [INAUDIBLE] place. If we experience both of these, then we can possibly begin to see where they join, where they-- where that meeting takes place. I mean, not-- I'm thinking much more complex than I'm speaking because I think that it needs more than, like, each situation has in it both of these possibilities, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --and this middle ground that the Buddhists talk about, this place where it's samsara-- where pleasure and pain have the same source, the same-- I don't know, the same being, where-- Well that he was just telling us what-- to get on with it that way, I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who was?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The Buddha. I mean that whole middle path ideal is not just something that he walked on by himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that doesn't mean to say happy medium.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Not happy medium, no, I mean, experience it-- you have to experien-- I think, experience both sides of a duality before you can find the central--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, yes, that's what we are talking about in terms of bewilderment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6132.0,6228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What do you mean when you say that doesn't mean to say happy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Happy medium.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To compromise the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What's the difference between the middle way and the happy medium?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The word \"happy.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Happy medium is compromise. You can cool off of the seeking for pleasure, little bit down. Cool off the seeking paranoia of pain, then you get a mixture of the two in a very turn-- very toned down, sort of cool-it way, you know; that doesn't work somehow. [Laughs] Well, we've got problem there, don't we?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6228.0,6284.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: But it seems like there would be nothing unless one could stay in the bewilderment, unless one could be *in* the bewilderment, to be-- there is nothing else, nothing else, no possibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But the basic ground of bewilderment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well *who* is staying in the bewilderment anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is staying in the bewilderment anyway? That may be the key. [Laughter] Who is bewildered? Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: What's on second base.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] What is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: I'm bewildered. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] No, but who is in it? What you mean \"I\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: That-- I mean that's why we can't catch it. Because we're not-- when we come out--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: --we exist as we come out of the bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good, you can't catch it!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good! That's it! [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: [INAUDIBLE] That's really good! [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good, yeah. We can't catch it. So on the other hand, nobody's in bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Then what's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: What do you mean nobody's in the bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because the-- yeah, you tell there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Then we're back in the game of the paranoia and the pleasure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Getting what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Then we're back into the game of the paranoia and the pleasure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Who is? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Me. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I thought we didn't find anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6284.0,6411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Are we-- then we're bewildered! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's very interesting point. You see, bewilderment is also equally expression of wisdom as well as ignorance. The particular situation that you can't label anything. That's why we are bewildered. So if you can't label on anything, there is also possibilities of space. Space, possibilities of gap, open space. But on the other hand there's possibilities also not discovering space also creates its own bewilderments and paranoia. It goes on and on. So that seem to be the point that what we are talking about, that state of bewilderment: of not having any ground, absolute not having any ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: That's why there's no one. Because there's no ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No ground, but still flashes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6411.0,6490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 45]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Rinpoche, in the last seminar [Abhidharma], when we were talking about the skandhas, bewilderment happened at the beginning of the first skandha. That would freeze, the energy happened. But is it true in this context then, that if you just let that thing exist without adding any more skandhas, but just letting go of this feeling of individuality, we-- it stops the creation, this constant creation of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. That's-- it stops karma we were talking about now. I'm trying to get into the situation of meditation, application of meditation, from that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Could you put that another way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Could you put that another way? What you just-- not having-- knowing what a skandha is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, doesn't matter. [Laughter] It's succession of psychological patterns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6490.0,6546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 46]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: That's what I'm-- I began talking-- before was talking about the feelings and the expression because it seems to me that in the mind it's very obvious there's a space between me and the thoughts. That in the body, there seems to be a continuity, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm. But which body are we talking about? Your version of body, or just body, body-body?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Well, that's-- it seems to me that the answer to that is, practically, is if you don't have a thought in your mind, and you can't find a space there, what you experience is your body.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean absence of thoughts is your body? [UNCLEAR: Lenny?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: [INAUDIBLE] message.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: When you're not thinking, when you're not tampering, or not doing anything, you're not trying to find out anything any more You're not-- there's no conception going on, then what you feel seems to be [INAUDIBLE] moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Feeling something there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: You know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feelings what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Just being aware [INAUDIBLE], I mean, like-- I'm talking about just being aware. Just paying attention. Attending to whatever is-- whatever it might be there to pay attention to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that means dwelling on something, perching on something. Like eagle perches on the rock. Eagle is the mind, the rock is the body. Right? That you have something to hover about-- hover on. That doesn't seem to be absolute definition of body, particularly. You still have a duality of you and your relationship to the body anyway. Which means your version of the body; there's something solid thing to be perched on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6546.0,6681.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 47]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: If you don't have any conceptual thoughts, do you have any sort of awareness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have a basic bewilderment. By then it's sort of bewilderment gone freeze. [Laughs] So it's solid ice. That's what we are trying to get it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That place of the basic bewilderment would seem to be a pretty good place to hang out if you weren't frightened by it, sort of bewildered by it. [Laughter] I mean if you have no ground to stand on, you know, and it's not a problem to you, you've got no-- like, you're pretty fluid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you see the whole point is that basic bewilderment is not all that efficient as we think. That bewilderment -- peak of bewilderment experiences, there is also gap; absolute open space, beyond that bewilderment. And bewilderment comes up and up, up and downs, goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6681.0,6752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 48]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: How did you describe the basic bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How we could describe the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: How did you describe the basic bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not knowing whether you are or you are not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But you know that you don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, as well, which adds another thing. It's uncertainty, of who's who -- fundamentally, really. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: But that's one step above just not being aware that-- I mean that-- your ordinary life situation, when you're just being miserable and happy and, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's much more subtle than that, basic bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Basic bewilderment is when you begin to realize you don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't know, yes, exactly. Who you are, exactly.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Or whether you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Or whether you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Or whether you exist--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whether you exist--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: --altogether that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hopefully. But on the other hand [laughter; laughs], nobody knows. Read books; doesn't give any answers. Ask people; doesn't give clear answers. All the time back to square one. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6752.0,6859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 49]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends... You see, once we experience the basic bewilderment, that we are barely, barely ahead of karmic, volitional process. You see, that's where the meditation plays part. In a sense the meditation is acknowledging basic bewilderment, and it's a space where that basic bewilderment forgets to create its tantrum. So there's some gap, some room somewhere. So it seem to be there's long, long way to go down to dealing with the work, sex, and money. We go to the peak, Mount Everest. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you have any suggestions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: What do you mean there's room-- there's room for bewilderment in meditation? Room for what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's opportunities of relating with that bewilderment. You see, finally that we stop everything. We decide not to rush, not to run, anymore. And we stop for a moment just to be, quietly, with the technique, whatever it's may be. And there's just teeny-weeny stars, shining through this darkness, occasional glimpse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=6859.0,7015.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 50]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: To get back to the beginning, when we were talking about flies on the body, is bewilderment that the -- can't even say that -- bewilderment, the realization that this annoyingness in the body is just a lot of energy. And the concepts that we have just put a moral label on energy, which has no morality whatsoever--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: --it's just pure [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --yeah, yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: That's the state of bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: State of bewilderment, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7015.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 51]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems that habitually, when we find ourselves in that state, we grasp at something to be. A thought will come up and instead of just seeing it as more energy we see it the subject as something to sink. Or something that-- an habitual grasping for some identity of self. And I wond-- are-- if we-- that state in itself, the bewilderment itself, quickly, you know, it's a pretty far out nice place, you know, if we could get by *that* problem, of seeing it as a problem, seeing that we're bewildered is a problem. Because I don't-- you know, like I-- if I find myself in a situation I'm, you know, habitually grasp-- habitually grasp. But intellectually I can see that it's really no problem at all. I mean, just, you know, why have any-- it's kind of picking for a central headquarters, and free of it for a moment, you know. Then it's-- I don't know [Laughs]. I can't even answer it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's what usually happens. Then you begin to manufacture a lot of other things, build the whole thing around it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Well, it seems like when you're bewildered, as you say, there's no one bewildered. So we don't come into the picture until--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: --we reflect back on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah, precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7050.0,7150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 52]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If we can work without anybody working, then it's not a problem to nobody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If we what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If we can work with nobody working, then it's really not a problem to nobody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not a problem at all. There's no karma, moreover. But there's something missing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Direct intelligence. To choose the job to be-- not to choose the job but the intelligence to direct the energy. I don't think that that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I don't think anybody needs that, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no; it's automatic function there. Intelligence is not the thing. It's already intelligent state anyway, because somewhat that's why we got bewildered. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7150.0,7210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 53]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What else? It's the subject very much connected with the topic we are going to discuss in the future seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Is it skillful means?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Probably some warmth that you just-- that comes up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In that situation too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But something very crucial.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Sort of certainty?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Certainty? No way. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: [INAUDIBLE] the bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] That's a good one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Certain that we are uncertain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Certain that we are uncertain? There's some very *crucial* thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Need.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: What-- need.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say need?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Yes. You get hungry. Or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If you're hungry you're not bewildered anymore. You're hungry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's sort of happens later on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Acceptance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it already acceptance state already anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: Not having to identify with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That hasn't come into picture yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7210.0,7298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 54]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, this is seems to be the root, of work, sex, and money. [Quietly] That's it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Even in that statement, there's the possibility of a fascination. Which traps us to get into the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but then--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But that basic intelligence isn't yet--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then it becomes searching for bliss or searching for pain, you know. Expressing pain and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\n*Something* is there; very, very *vital*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Let me explain again. [Laughter] The basic bewilderment is, in a sense, intelligent but passive... self-recognition. In a sense carefree because it doesn't have to involve with the karmic chains. It's open thing. Need something else.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: Compassion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The creative aspect--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: A friend?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --of mind. The male aspect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is the creative aspect?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, it's-- I don't know, it's a symbolism as a whole but I kind of see that as a male thing connected--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, Well, sure, but again--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Not-- it's not passive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not right on the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's not passive though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not right on the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER53: [INAUDIBLE] after the last seminar, the spiritual impulses, is that [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so; it's something more organic than that. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: Need somebody to play with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's part of it. But there is something very vital. Very obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7298.0,7455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 55]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: Are we-- that we're trying to get to the point that once we get to this state, what happens next?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Once we are in the open state, how we leap next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, there seems to be a raw passion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How we *apply* next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There seems to be a very raw passion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's part of it, yeah, but not necessarily passion alone.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: Well, I would-- I don't know but I would think that the problem next that arises is, do we remain there or do we get out of there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no choice, that's what we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Courage. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very heroic. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: Is it the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sense of humor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, come on. [Laughter; laughs] It's the governing force of work, sex, and money.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER58: What, ambition or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: Energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: It seems to be some sort of vibration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Energy, yeah, precisely, energy! Energy, yeah, energy! That's it!\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see you could have energy free of karma; that's why I'm trying to point this out. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is original bewilderment, and from that original bewilderment, of experiencing space of some kind, there's energy. And through that we could work with all the topics we're going to discuss. That it's energy. Fresh energy, without debts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER61: Is that the same as chandali?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, precisely, yeah. And that's old hat. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: Well, but that fresh energy is going to bump into-- it's gonna collide with the karma scene.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could, but not necessarily. Because you got this energy direct from the basic bewilderment, without going through the conceptualized notion of volitional action. It's energy run wild in its own sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7455.0,7627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 56]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So next problem that we have to discuss in purely-- next topics are purely on the relational-ship situation, rather than philosophically, you know. I mean otherwise all sorts of questions that sharing karma and all that sort of-- and what happens one's own karma, what happens one's own hangups, and that sort of situation. But that's the tool. Basic awake, or bewilderment, with force. But that force constantly operate, in the daily living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: Rinpoche--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER63: But there's no direction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Does that force have intelligence? Or is the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah it-- I mean the basic bewilderment has intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, but we had already said there was basic intelligence there and you said you still wanted more, you wanted energy. Is there a difference?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: A separation between--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no, it's just part of its mechanical reactory [sic] situation, is intelligence. It's sort of guided missile. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7627.0,7713.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 57]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER63: Rinpoche, I don't understand what the basic bewilderment lacks energy, it's missing, it seems--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't say it's missing, but it's next step. The handle of basic bewilderment is the energy. Its exit, its way of relating with situations, is the energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: But there's no direction for the energy after the bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is direction... sort of absence of panic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the direction. So energy functions in its own needed situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: In its--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In its needed situations. Basic need, in the basic-- wherever the energy is needed, it happens. Wherever there is no energy is-- wherever there's destructive situations or creative situations needed it happens. So energy doesn't have to be guided consciously. Once you begin to-- you begin to guide it consciously, that whole thing becomes karmic force.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7713.0,7797.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 58]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So is the problem to get rid of the panic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Problem get rid of panic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is the problem then to get rid of the panic? And then it will naturally channel itself in the energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, somehow if you are in contact with that basic bewilderment in its positive quality and energy, panic doesn't arise anymore. I mean panic is not relevant there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER65: Does panic come from ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to hold onto something, yeah, which is ego. You see the whole point is that's why the-- one can transcend between both good and bad karma. Is that panic is not relevant there. If panic is relevant and you have to suppress that, then we already working on the situation of \"this\" and \"that.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You're saying that karma is basically a conscious thing then I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, karma comes from concept. Concept a very conscious thing. So if there's state of absence of concept, then you're free of karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER67: So, this idea of the energy coming from the basic bewilderment and then starting again at the energy level, is that like transcending the drives that drive you to money, drive you to work, and drive you to sex? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say transcend exactly, but it inspires. Deals with the money, deals with the sex, deal with the work. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER67: Someday....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7797.0,7896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 59]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER68: Let's suppose we talked about babies, because they don't have any concepts and they don't have any-- They must be in the bewilderment perpetually, no?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER69: Infant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Infant, yeah. Then they grow up, in midst of our own concepts. \"Don't do that, that's bad for you.\" You know, \"Do that, that's good for you.\" \"Should go to bed in certain fixed hours, you have to have a good rest.\" [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There's still though ego operating, the-- I mean, the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At that level there isn't. That's the key for it, that's why...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, in the infant states though it is. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the infant state the-- well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The baby still has pleasure, pain, from almost birth, I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But it doesn't regard it as criteria situation [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But it completely expressive. I mean that's what-- come back to that thing. You know, I mean, like a baby, whatever it feels, it expresses immediately.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, we don't want to particularly go into that detail, but if necessary, is that there's certain stage in the birth, that you flash back into your basic, primeval state. And you flash out, and on. So it's process of awakening into the samsaric world. But still, there is something holding with the baby, with the infant, trying to hold on to something. Which allows you to carry your previous karma, you know, continuously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER70: So when you spoke of the basic bewilderment you're speaking of a condition that is even more fundamental than the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More fundamental, yeah. I'm talking about--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: But even an infant has a clinging, has an attachment, sometimes. Even an infant has a clinging and attachment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it does. That's why-- that's the thread where they could carry out their previous karma. Because of that clinging. With adults, that they are grown up and they have awake state and confused state in life situation, so that there is a constant awake state happening all the time, and constant bewilderment happening all the time. So that's why there is-- it is-- that's why that is the key to deal with life situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=7896.0,8055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 60]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER72: Well what about the energy that created the basic bewilderment, is that the same...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't say it's exactly energy. It's just a... bundle of coincidence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But that's-- that phrases an interesting question though. Like, if we have this all-pervading basic intelligence, then the first move towards neurosis has to be a very sane move.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. Yeah. And somehow that we lost touch with it somewhere along; it becomes supposedly insane.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER73: Lost touch with...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With the sanity. At the moment when the whole sanity is accompanied with energy-- by energy, there's all sorts of echoing process goes on all the time, flashing back and forth. Which again creates a further bewilderment. When the karmic relation of volitional action begin to happen. And then one lose the touch of original drive, original radiation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER74: Is that what you meant by the energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean energy, yeah. And then whole thing becomes messed up. In other word the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8055.0,8165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 61]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Would-- like, that still confuses me because, like if the first move was a sane move, it would allow for that possibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very important point, you know, that *is* possible. But at the same time it's not possible. So fundamentally nobody's insane at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But *apparently* people are insane. Apparently people are insane. Because their concept that they imposed on it. Concept just landed out of nowhere. The whole thing just created by itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But the whole thing is still basically-- like the only neurosis that I really have to deal with is my own because all the rest of you are okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, precisely. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Far out! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why that you could be Buddha, you are Buddha. Right now. Fully-fledged.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Full-fledged.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER75: Each?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Each.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8165.0,8230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 62]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: So, this bewilderment and energy goes along the path, and it collides with the life situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Collides?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: It collides. I mean it has-- it encounters--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: --life situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And life situation becomes good and bad, and therefore that some things bad, in order to get to good. Closer to the less chaos. That's why we go into state of jhanas and get absorbed into bliss, because it's much closer. Less chaos. And so on so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER77: But this, the bewilderment with energy to come back [INAUDIBLE]; there's no good and bad in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. I mean, all the time you have to create good and bad. All the time, consistently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8230.0,8292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 63]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If all the rest of you are buddhas, then where is this-- where is the need for compassion, and all that sort of stuff? Because-- I mean where-- I mean if there is no suffering, if no one is suffering anywhere, except here, and that's my problem, it seems I've gotten back into this very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the whole point, that you have to create situations so that people's suffering could relate to that situation. *Apparently* suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER78: It would be relating then simply to bewildered energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So the whole thing is, you see that you have-- you can't free people, completely, like magic. But you can only create situations of reminding that suffering is not there. Suffering is irrelevant subject. That's why the bodhisattva work is important. I mean you can't really cure somebody's suffering. Because it's their own hangup.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's kind of a controlled insanity. I mean, like, you know you can't do anything, but you're doing it anyway. Because what else is there to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8292.0,8381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 64]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER79: Let me get this step, from the bewildered energy where there really is not anyone there, to this-- to these other things, which are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if bewilderment is energy, it *has* energy. And the basic thing is that there's nobody there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER79: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Therefore the volitional action of karma doesn't apply to them. And possibilities that the people would have such flashes of them, occasionally seeing glimpse of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER80: Glimpse of?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of that basic bewilderment of nobody. And that that should be act as a key to dealing with the work, money, and sex. So the whole thing is approached in a very sane way. Nobody trying to save anything, nobody's labeling anything as good or bad, either work, or sex, or money is regarded as good or bad. But it's seeing through a very awake way. Because fundamentally there is nobody. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Aren't we still stuck though, with the good and bad, by picking sanity over insanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are we what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are we still rating sane over neurotic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well of course we can.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean that seems to be the fundamental duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is fundamental duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah it has to be transcended too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Until that insanity is not valid. Because basic sanity is there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8381.0,8487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 65]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And you said that you cannot cure people of suffering because it's their hangup. And that is perfectly true. But if it's only their hangup until they have the actual experience, even if though for a very short while. A glimpse that they can feel in a different way. That there is a relief or a freedom, or an-- as long as that they can experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Even experience it will give them a model of there is another way is possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Until they realize that way was not-- need never have gone through that at all. It was purely stage setup.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: The only thing is, how does one get to that experience of--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By trying. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It's not giving it to others-- as a possibility to other [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8487.0,8541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 66]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: You seem to be talking about egolessness. A kind of a momentary--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Egolessness. Yeah, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: Which happens occasionally during ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: --attachment. That there's-- that there are these breaks [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Right, yeah. Precisely, yeah. That's where we could approach work, sex, and money.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: In the breaks, in these momentary breaks.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In which case work, sex, and money just becomes a very-- part of the natural process like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: –-that there's a gap and you fill it, you know like that's all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gotcha. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: Rinpoche?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8541.0,8595.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93272/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE I think we better stop there. Got the right point.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=8595.0,8608.83592"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93273","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710829VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93273/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\npublic seminar entitled\nWork, Sex, Money II.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=1.0,10.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93273/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Given at Karme\nCholing in Barnet, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258#t=10.23,13.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169610/file/308258/transcript/93273/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Two, \"Karma,\"\ngiven on August 29th, 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