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Through experiencing the far edge of our neurosis and then coming back to some level of sanity, which is expression of our buddha nature, or basic goodness. That experience is the working basis and has a solidity like the earth. Unconditional wakefulness is not idle but includes sympathy and compassion; experience of constant surrendering and making use of oneself for rest of the world. Spiritual friend aids awakening process by breaking down the protective shell between one’s buddha nature and outside world, creating breakthrough.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNov 16 2019 to Feb 03 2020 Transcribing: Nate Speare Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1978"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eHow is transformation possible? Through experiencing the far edge of our neurosis and then coming back to some level of sanity, which is expression of our buddha nature, or basic goodness. That experience is the working basis and has a solidity like the earth. Unconditional wakefulness is not idle but includes sympathy and compassion; experience of constant surrendering and making use of oneself for rest of the world. Spiritual friend aids awakening process by breaking down the protective shell between one\u0026rsquo;s buddha nature and outside world, creating breakthrough.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/211/391/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1698957426","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1698957409_19780925VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2062.28894,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/211/391/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1698957426","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/211/391/original/1698957409_19780925VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1698957411","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2062.28894,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780925VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19780925VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Los Angeles - Transforming Confusion into Wisdom II - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled, Transforming Confusion Into Wisdom, Number Two, held at Los Angeles Dharmadhatu in Los Angeles, California. This is talk number one, September 25, 1978. This is an ARP Digital Remaster made October, 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Transforming Confusion Into Wisdom, ATS [Advanced Training Session]  with the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, September 25, 1978, Talk One.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=0.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the continuation of our training program. I don't think I have a great deal to say after the Regent has already expounded dharma quite thoroughly, but however we must go on.  [NOTE: This seminar followed directly after one of the same name taught by the Vajra Regent]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=40.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought we'd discuss tonight the notion of transformation, and how is it possible at all. It is very simple logic and quite straightforward, that when we begin to experience our neurosis, we begin to also experiences that how far we can go on with our neurosis, there will be occasional situations where we be pulled back by some decency, some goodness. That we can't go and completely destroy ourselves, and we somewhat return to the main situation. And I suppose all of you have done that and a lot of-- all of you, maybe all of you, have gone crazy sometime or another, and you went so far to the end, almost to the end. Then you had some kind of saving grace took place in your state of being, which caused you to come around. And here you are, came around. Although still same kind of nuances, and same kind of theme went on all the time, goes on all the time, throughout our existence, all along. But nevertheless there is some kind of moderator taking place, apart from occasional -- very occasional -- situations with people. That there is a general sense of moderating factors involved, how to experience height of neurosis, and when to come around, and how to readjust ourselves from our craziness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=76.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular type of craziness is known as \"buddha nature\" -- coming around and overcoming craziness. That there is some saving grace, which is buddha nature. Tathagatagarbha -- the \"basic goodness\" that takes place. And that fundamental basic goodness contains some sense of a real and true existence. And that real and true existence is the working basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=230.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that basic existence has solidity, like earth. And moisture, like water. When you have earth and water put together, you can mold statue, figure, a lump, out of it. According to the tradition it has been said that buddha nature is like having a statue of a buddha in your heart, which is made out of the basic solidity and the moistureness. The basic solidity is seem to be consist of, in our state of mind, in the basic notion of sanity, which is \"bodhi,\" the wakefulness. And this notion of wakefulness is not necessarily because you have slept previously, therefore you are awake. But this kind of wakefulness has never known falling asleep at all, constantly awake. Therefore it is called \"supreme enlightenment\", which had never known otherwise. Unconditioned wakefulness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=313.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the reason why we use the term \"wakefulness\" is because outsiders' point of view, so to speak. Something like comparison between the Buddha and the Jimmy Carter. A very rough comparison, extremely rough. So opposed to Jimmy Carter, we will say Buddha is much more awake. But as far as Buddha himself concerned, there's no question about *him* being awake, particularly. He's already *is*. So that kind of wakefulness we are talking about. Basic sense of a general wakefulness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=418.0,483.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of basic sense of a general wakefulness also has the moisture aspect of it, which we already mentioned. The notion of sympathy and compassion, gentleness, that the pure wakefulness could just be just awake, lying in idle. But this wakefulness is pragmatic; it's not idle wakefulness, so therefore we have the moisture quality, which is compassion, which binds together the earth of wakefulness into shape. So that that kind of general consistency of this statue -- made out of dough, Buddha -- has shape, you can form it into shapes. So that it will be seen as upright, and head and shoulder, good posture, and looks sane, feels sane, and cross-legged, feels good to be one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=483.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that kind of a general sense of wakefulness and sanity put together is the constituents of the buddha nature. And that is no longer myth. That-- we all have that, all of us have that. So it is no longer regarded as a myth. We have it. Fully grown, and complete. Because it is fully grown, therefore it is much easier to realize by breaking the shell around it, which is called confusion. Sometimes it is symbolized by the analogy of a garuda has fully grown in an egg, and there's no problem in the breaking the shells, coming out, and that kind of analogy, all sorts of analogies of that. In other word that once there is already wakefulness taking place, there shouldn't be any problem of a breaking the barriers. But on the other hand, there's only one agent is necessary to that actually happen, is that enlightened and gentle existence has to have a somebody outside of the shell who is equally same thing. So that outside agent of the wakefulness and gentleness radiates to that particular embryonic existence of wakeful gentleness. So by compressing from the inside and outside together then the shell is completely burst, and finally it gives real birth to enlightenment, in ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=554.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That agent or that factor is obviously what is known as \"spiritual friend,\" which you have heard. Anybody here haven't heard the concept of \"spiritual friend,\" raise your hand? [Laughs]. Only one. The notion of a spiritual friend is that person equal to what inside you of that enlightened and gentle factor projects-- also comes from outside, who has already broken their shell already long time ago. And they begin to work with you, as what's known as \"spiritual friend.\" And that particular spiritual friend supposed to be a heavy-handed person, demands all kinds of things of you, but at the same time well-meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=718.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That spiritual friend sometimes cause that your shell becomes thicker, because so much demand. And by producing that shell is thicker, then explodes itself, because it can't handle its thickness of that shell, become-- begin to become explosion; self-destructive resistance -- the resistance being self-destroyed, in other word. That spiritual friend may be encouraging you to jump in to a bigger ocean. That trying to break through one's resistance in working with vast of confused world, asking you to jump in. That spiritual friend might make you into a bridge; bridge, just like a Golden Gate Bridge. So that lots of-- hundreds of thousands of people can walk over you. Tirelessly you have to remain yourself as a bridge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=806.0,915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That spiritual friend might ask you to become a cup, so that hundreds of people can drink out of it -- out of you. Sometimes warm, sometimes cold. The idea is that basically, once that resistance be broken, then there is a constant surrendering and making use of yourself for the rest of the world, which seem to be the basic point. And Buddhism has been criticized by the Christians, by saying that, \"Self-indulgent religion. They just sit on their meditation cushion and meditate themselves. That's all, they don't have a missionaries going around, Save the Children fund or anything like that, going on around the world. They don't convert people.\" Well, we take pride in that we don't mess people's life that way. When anybody's ready, we are ready. You could come along. You can imagine there will be millions of bodhisattva troops [laughter], willing to help, willing to serve anybody has any resistance or blockages, confusions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=915.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because of such rapport that exist with the confused world and embryonic buddha nature person, therefore it is very simple to break through that particular barrier of the little shell, little cocoon, shell. In fact, ladies and gentlemen, it'll take only few seconds to flip over. You have a feeling that your particular shell and resistance made out of *cast-iron*, you are not going to give it up, you're going to hang onto it. But if you let go what inside of that shell is gentle and awake already, then -- \"tschooo\". It takes a matter of second in fact. Very easy. Too good to be true, but it *is* true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1013.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why the confusion can be transformed into wisdom. [*clack* sound] The shell is questionable. It's partly imagination, it's partly living in the past, all sorts of habitual patterns that you like to repeat again and again, all the time, so you could be quite comfortable with your neurosis. So if any of those have broken away, broken through [*clack*], then there's no problem. The resistance in itself is could be transformed into a *breakthrough*, and a breakthrough provides wisdom, of sanity and gentleness already together. And if we have some understanding of that, we are actually stepping towards vajrayana teachings already. That seem to be the essence of the vajrayana teaching, is that you *can* actually make breakthrough, completely. [*clack*] Just a matter of switch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1080.0,1152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what we are saying tonight is real, it's not theory, in case you wonder. It has been done, and it's continuously happening, and it will happen in the future.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you are welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1152.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said something about the shell becoming thicker...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When you were talking about working with the spiritual friend, you said that the shell becomes thicker.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sometimes becomes thicker, yes, but then it breaks down much faster. And making yourself into target by becoming thicker. It's like the shell's been swallow, so it begin to have pimples and holes and breaking down the skin, and it destroys itself. So, the idea is being that greater resistance is not regarded as a obstacle, the greater regarded as-- also regarded as part of the process of bursting out of the shell. Got it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Got it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1208.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? Gentleman there, with the glasses?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It's been the-- it's been the experience of this one that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It's been the experience of this one that spiritual friend is not always been a spiritual master. Sometimes a spiritual friend has, or someone who has helped to cause breakthrough has been, what you might say, even a bum.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Even what, dog?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Laughs] Indeed. Would you comment on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I certainly should. [Laughter] And we have to understand about the spiritual friend is we are not talking about a situational therapy. That you run yourself into a taxi cab, and hurt yourself, or anything like that, and you had the wrong kind of hamburger, you got a stomach upset. That could be some kind of message obviously, but when we talk about a spiritual friend is we are talking actually in terms of some kind of living master who is your leader and your teacher and good friend, at the same time. So there is some kind of problem in the past, particularly those who have a individualistic style and a self style, to not get into any discipline. And they say, \"I don't need a spiritual friend as a realized person as such, but I can just take a walk down the promenade, and a butterfly might land on my nose, and that's some kind of message.” And not quite homemade style as that, this is a serious trip, so to speak. So spiritual friend *has* to become somebody who has basic notion of authority and also warmth, that's projects. You see, in the hinayana level, we have what's known as elders, who's wise people, trying to tell you like schoolmaster approach in some sense. To tell you to how to sit, how to take your posture in meditation situations, and then spiritual friend is one step beyond that. That elder becomes a good friend, rather than purely schoolmaster. Do you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There are-- confusion arises between the difference of, on the one hand some spiritual masters say that other spiritual masters do not have the correct technique. And yet it has been the experience of myself that many techniques apply to different problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the question is not so much of a technique; is actual journey itself. It doesn't really matter about techniques. You might find a screwdriver is much more useful than a knife, if you have to eat roast beef. But that's depends on the situation. But on the other hand, the other way around. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, I guess it comes down to whether or not Billy Graham is your screwdriver or Rinpoche is your knife.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on what you're eating. [laughter] If you're eating, or if you're not eating. Well, lot of things are left up to the individuals, obviously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1302.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Why would Milarepa build eight and a half houses to get the teachings? Which is-- the question is really, what is so important about the teachings, that someone would make, or do that? Which was really-- was born out of me wondering what I'm really doing here. And I've been doing it for awhile, and I still am not really sure why I'm doing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Looks like you have to go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Keep on building. [Laughter] Then you will find out, okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And if Marpa was a greatest psychologist, or analyst, in convincing Milarepa to build those buildings, and Milarepa would fee-- completely destroyed it, he'd become psychotic, and end of his building. He would have some kind of fixation of all kinds, of that, \"I have build this tower.\" He would have a love and hate relationship with the whole thing. And because there is no analytical approaches being used there, it just simple and a direct situation. Therefore Milarepa had accomplished the tower, and he is also attained enlightenment in his lifetime. So you should keep going. There's no why. Only thing is *is*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1578.0,1704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I wanted to ask you a question about-- the section when you were talking about the relationship between buddha nature and that turning around; when you're involved in heightened neurosis and then something happens to turn you around, and you identify that as buddha nature. Recognizing that's getting into some sort of self-destructive thing. And I wondered what is it then that provides the impetus to get into neurosis further? I mean if buddha nature is there, and one sort of acknowledges that, then why does it seem to be necessary to sort of go out on that limb, to move close to craziness, before that takes place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, craziness is usually very comfortable. That's the close to home, very familiar, absolutely, extremely familiar, to be in the craziness. That's usually habitual pattern and what's known as samsaric habit. That which kept, for instance, Naropa, meeting his teacher, Tilopa, because of habit-forming thoughts. You see generally, people don't want to get into a *new* situation. They might have some tendency to transform themselves, but they have a version of idea that when the transformation takes place, that transformation is not based on further vision, but replay of themselves, which they appreciate enormously. So, we have a problem there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the idea is, as long as we don't look for the replay of our own habitual pattern, and take some kind of delight, in actually realizing who *you* are, which is the buddha nature, gentleness, and wakefulness, already there, and willing to face that situation. And then, person begin to get a different kinds of opinions about themselves -- their comfort, how they should be comfortable; they *could* be comfortable with their strange bedfellows. A *new* discovery, entirely new discovery. Then they begin to appreciate the new discovery, new discovery, as good love affair at the same time. So it's a question of that old love affair that you have, is extremely comfortable, familiar.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's like same as calling the operator on the telephone, and you know what her tone of voice is going to be, you have developed your rapport with it, whether you are talking to the same operator or the not. And you still so comfortable. Which is like dealing with the same thoughts: next thought is not going to be same operator but a different kind of thoughts of operator, so forth. But you still appreciate that neurosis, that you can go back to your own habitual patterns. And when you begin to realize there's other way, sometimes it is not very comfortable. But on the other hand, that's the best one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Try it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=1704.0,1944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60892/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, maybe we have to adjourn here at this point, and I would like to actually encourage tremendously all of you here, to take part in the *good* sitting practice session tomorrow and day to come further. And maybe you might be inconvenienced by the temperature system that we have in this part of the world. But still more sweat is good, as long as you practice. So please relate with your sitting practice. And if you don't relate with the sitting practice by the way, you will have tremendous difficulty in understanding and listening to the teachings. You will be deaf and dumb, as we go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in order to make our communication, and in order to that you can actually raise buddha nature in you, sitting practice is *the* and only way it has been done in the past. We call this particular format is training session, and I'm sure Buddha never conducted anything like this, but we are trying to get the closest to what the Buddha wanted. So people should sit and listen to the teaching, sit, listen, sit, listen, practice, all along. And this is the closest twentieth century form of attaining enlightenment motif that we have come up with. So, please be serious, and humorous at the same time, and practice a lot. That will be very helpful, if you want understand what we are doing, at all. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=16.27,20.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60893/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Transforming\nConfusion Into Wisdom, ATS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391#t=22.0,25.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/109875/file/211391/transcript/60893/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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