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First, importance of joy -- not as indulgence, but as a sense of precision and accuracy, perceiving the world properly and fully, and appreciating its beauty. Second, themes of family history as obstacles, creating blinders to clear seeing. Third, being clear and pure in speech and mind, expressing oneself with clarity. A sense of gallantry, fearlessness, and appreciation of the world emerge. In discussion section, Question 3 is an exchange with Allen Ginsberg about how to experience beauty, awareness, or tranquility even in the midst of very painful or chaotic situations, such as war."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Heart of the Buddha","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: THE HEART OF THE BUDDHA: Chapter 12: \"Dharma Poetics\" (edited to merge talks 1 and 3 from this Dharma Poetics class)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-heart-of-the-buddha-725.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book HEART OF THE BUDDHA)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nOriginally published as \"Vajracarya on Dharma Poetics,\" Vajradhatu Sun 5, no. 2 (Dec 1982-Jan 1983)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 07 2021 to May 18 2021 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1982"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Three topics in relation to purification and the longing for freedom discussed in previous talk. First, importance of joy -- not as indulgence, but as a sense of precision and accuracy, perceiving the world properly and fully, and appreciating its beauty. Second, themes of family history as obstacles, creating blinders to clear seeing. Third, being clear and pure in speech and mind, expressing oneself with clarity. A sense of gallantry, fearlessness, and appreciation of the world emerge. In discussion section, Question 3 is an exchange with Allen Ginsberg about how to experience beauty, awareness, or tranquility even in the midst of very painful or chaotic situations, such as war."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute, Dharma Poetics class, Talk Three, given in Boulder, Colorado, on June 29th, 1982. This is a CTI auto-remaster made March 2021.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This will be the third talk of the Dharma Poetics class given at Naropa Institute, June 29th, 1982.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=0.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. Good morning. It is a question of attitude I suppose, whether it is evening or morning. But in the Shambhalian tradition we talk about always being morning.\r\n\r\n\r\nWithout delaying too much I would like to discuss the evolution that we talked earlier on, from a purification, and a sense of longing for liberation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=43.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight we could discuss three topics, which being basically a sense of joy. Joy could mean also a sense of individual way of not working with oneself, but individual way of working towards a sense of indulgency. But here we are talking about joy as *not* indulgency -- it is perception of the world can be clarified. And best poet or poetic philosophy, in this case, is a sense of precision and accuracy: how we see the universe, how we actually *perceive* the universe. We are not fooled by green, yellow, red, blue, pink, orange, and etcetera, etceteras. That we are not fooled by that. And also we are not fooled by the mountains, the brooks, the flowers, and the beeees [laughter] -- I leave it up to your imagination [laughter] -- of all sorts of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=123.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is another situation, which is we are not fooled by our father, our mother, our sisters, our brothers, and our lovers. Those things could create a central theme of a poetry. But at the same time those things also create obstacles, and it could create what’s known as \"blindfoldedness.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=335.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The-- we discussed the seeing the world properly, and we discussed joy, but maybe there is more to say about joy. Joy is something that you see, experience, properly, fully, thoroughly, in the universe, in your world. In other word, that we do not pull our long faces. [Unknown incident or gesture; laughter] And begin to appreciate this world that we’re living in. And this world that we’re living in is a lovely world, wonderful world. The Judeo-Christian tradition could say, \"It’s a gift of God.\" In the Buddhist tradition it is said that your result of your karmic magnificence. Joy is always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=409.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And number three is clear and pure in one’s speech and one’s mind. When we talk about poets, poetics altogether, we are talking in terms of expressing ourselves so thoroughly, so precisely, that we don’t just mumble our words, mumble our mind, mumble our body, and being poetic world -- being in the poetic world, we have something to wake up, something to *excite* ourselves. There is a sense of gallantry, and there is a tremendous sense of definite attitude of no longer feared for threats of any kind, and we begin to help ourselves appreciate our world, which is already beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I think that’s the point-- points. If you like to discuss about that, you’re welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=526.0,707.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You talked about lots of things that we shouldn’t be fooled by, which seem to be our everyday experience. What did you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Philosophies did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Things that we shouldn’t be fooled by, or are not fooled by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=707.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yes. Well, I think it’s a question of simply just being on the dot. That we shouldn’t let ourselves be used by somebody else as part of their trip, as a part of their egomaniac-ness, and simply remaining *as what we are*. Just being on the dot. That philosophy could be anything -- religious ones or sociological ones, or all sorts of other things; political ones, maybe. But the idea is that we are-- we should not let ourselves to be subject of that kind of experience, unless we experience it properly, thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=738.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: By being on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By being what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You experience it properly and thoroughly by being on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And knowing what you’re doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Knowing that you’re laying your philosophy on the mountain, on the brooks and the...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can praise mountain, you can praise the sky. You can do those things. But the idea of... that any trips laid on you, we have to let go of *that*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=832.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: And then there’s joy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [Laughter; speaker laughs] Well, if you are unhappy, not joyful, then you buy a lot of trips. You still have a long face, but nonetheless that you always buy when somebody presents some \"stuff\" to you. And in this case what we are talking about is once you are joyful, once you feel gallantry, and you feel who you are, you feel *good*. You automatically will know that who’s trying to fool you and who’s trying to help you. So that seems to be the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=885.0,958.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: How does that manifest in your art, in your poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well, very much with anything -- art, painting, and your performance as dance, and your poetic writing, as a writer. You will have an easy marriage and a cheerful life. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Sounds good. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, try it! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I will. Thank you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=958.0,1041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How much energy should one expend figuring out if someone is fooling you, or if you’re fooling yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Someone’s fooling you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Or it’s you that’s fooling yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s very complicated, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Laughs] I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because sometimes you think you are the other. The others also thinks it is you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1041.0,1086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: So what’s the best approach at that point? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think best approach is there to enjoy mountains [laughter] and rivers and forests and snow and rain and hailstorm, by oneself. And you'll find some poetic way of saving yourself out of that. And I think that’s the mountains are *for*, actually, originally. And brooks are for that way, and trees and jungles are that way. So, be yourself by yourself, and somebody will tell you then, the best. And you will-- I’m sure you will compose magnificent poetry, if you do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Laughing] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1086.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Allen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1210.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: I will find it difficult to conceive of myself enjoying myself, sometimes in-- when I’m ill or in pain, like a hernia or kidney stone, and I wonder what it would be like to be very old, and on the road in Jordan, with shrapnel and cluster bombs flying around, feeling the end of family, decades, and the end of home. Maybe some beauty in seeing the finality of that, but also the physical pain. I wonder what possibility would there be of writing an appreciative poetry, under extremely painful situation, and conditions such as that, or such as we experience actually with old age, sickness, and death anyway?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1230.0,1281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yes, yes. Well, pain goes with the pleasure, always. That’s a classic remark. [Laughter] When you feel pain, at the same time, *why* you feel pain is because you feel joyful. That is to say, why do you wear sun-shade, which is black. Because you’re wearing it, because there is lots of light coming to you. Do you understand the logic?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: The logic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1281.0,1341.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. So the notion of frustration is also goes with that. That we feel a sense of alternatives, *with* alternatives, always. And at the same time when you are in the worst pain, you feel sometimes your-- the best happiness, have ever experienced. Should try that, should try that. And that’s what we read in the Milarepa’s story, and Marpa’s story, and all the poets of the Kagyus have done that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1341.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: Well, is it the concentration practice, and steadiness of mind cultivated by meditation that keeps you personally, or others of your lineage -- or ourselves -- from--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --from total dissolution into like depression and physical pain, and a dissolution of ability to concentrate and stabilize mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there had to be some kind of spark, some kind of spark, and some kind of explosion, of joy. Which happens in the midst of pain; usually happens *more* in the midst of pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1418.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: You think that’s actually happening individually to lots of people, say in Lebanon, who are under really horrible circumstances? At least looking at television that’s what it looks like.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: You don’t get that particular vibe from the news, in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. I think so, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: You think in the middle of all that chaos there are explosions of awareness of light?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there’s so much chaos--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --therefore there is so much tranquility. And tranquility is relative to chaos. It’s Einstein philosophy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1477.0,1519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: Actually, in the novel WAR AND PEACE by Tolstoy, there are descriptions like that in the midst of battlefield.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: The sky opened or people opened-- looking up at the sky, wounded on the battlefield looking up at the sky and suddenly--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --appreciating the sky.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I understand what you’re saying, but I think it’s *there*. It’s always there.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome Allen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1519.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There’s ummm... there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I’d like to know what American poets you admire and if you feel there’s--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I’d like to know what American poets you admire, and if you feel there’s some--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: American what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Poets.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1566.0,1587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: And do you feel there’s something lacking in American poetry because we don’t have a meditative tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think they are getting there, basically speaking. And I must say, American poets do need *some* kind of meditative discipline in order to appreciate phenomenal world, and in order to appreciate the greenness of green is beautiful, the blueness of the sky is lovely, and the whiteness of the clouds are so fantastic. And maybe the poets spend too much time writing poetry. [Laughter] And that they have to see the vividness of the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nAmerica is a wonderful place. You have highest mountains and beautiful lakes and extraordinary greenery and fruit, and you have *everything* in this country. You should be *proud* of your country. And you will see that the beauty of America, if you become poet precisely. Do you understand me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1587.0,1733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your country is beautiful. And worth loving it, and worth writing poetry about it. And just simply spending *time* in America, is good enough -- to me, anyway -- and maybe hopefully to you as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1733.0,1794.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, I’ve heard a phrase that, \"Suffering is the broom that sweeps away the cause of suffering.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suffering is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: \"Suffering is the broom that sweeps away the cause of suffering.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When you speak about there being sparks of pleasure in pain, is that the equality that you were referring to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well said. You must be studying Buddhism. [Speaker laughs] [laughter] Or you must be studying vajrayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It was Situ Rinpoche that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s good. That’s good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you, Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1794.0,1849.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41078/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right ladies and gentlemen, this point I think we could close down our-- tonight’s meeting. And I’m so pleased that you made tremendous progress since we met last time. [Laughter] And I’m so pleased with your progress. And in this way, I think we are going to actually revolution-- revolutionize American poetry. And your attentiveness and your interest makes me happy, extremely. And maybe your existence as American poets make my life longer. And thank you very much. I admire you a lot, appreciate you a lot. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1849.0,1962.68406"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19820629VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=1.36,4.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Naropa Institute,\nDharma Poetics class,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=4.64,8.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Talk Three, given in Boulder,\nColorado, on June 29th, 1982.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=8.18,15.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI auto-remaster\nmade March 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=15.65,21.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=21.22,22.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=22.53,24.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be the third talk\nof the Dharma Poetics class","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=24.69,27.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Naropa Institute,\nJune 29th, 1982.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804#t=27.62,33.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76221/file/168804/transcript/41079/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nGood evening. 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