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Includes the importance of distinguishing true spirituality from religion; separating genuine spirituality from spiritual materialism. Describes true spiritually as involving understanding basic mechanism of ego that creates dissatisfaction, and need for studying one's basic psychology. Pleasure and pain as working basis; not rejected, but worked with directly, as \"heart of the spiritual path.\" Reviews basic hinayana approach, of \"narrow path\", working on oneself and one's mind, simplifying through meditation. Opens to mahayana path, the \"open way\" of six paramitas, relating with world. A penetrating review of \"mysticism\" according to Buddhism: in tantra, the final stage, fully experiencing energy of the world, including one's emotions, and relating with that with sense of delight. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes clearly how ego is stepping-stone on the path; importance of relating with space; clarifies how the hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana work together.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 15 2020 to Dec 31 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA final talk that condenses key subjects of the entire semester. Includes the importance of distinguishing true spirituality from religion; separating genuine spirituality from spiritual materialism. Describes true spiritually as involving understanding basic mechanism of ego that creates dissatisfaction, and need for studying one's basic psychology. Pleasure and pain as working basis; not rejected, but worked with directly, as \"heart of the spiritual path.\" Reviews basic hinayana approach, of \"narrow path\", working on oneself and one's mind, simplifying through meditation. Opens to mahayana path, the \"open way\" of six paramitas, relating with world. A penetrating review of \"mysticism\" according to Buddhism: in tantra, the final stage, fully experiencing energy of the world, including one's emotions, and relating with that with sense of delight. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes clearly how ego is stepping-stone on the path; importance of relating with space; clarifies how the hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana work together.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/569/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346432","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-gfgddy.mpga"]},"duration":2315.38938,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/569/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346432","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/569/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-gfgddy.mpga?1759343496","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2315.38938,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730503VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730503VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1973 - Class 10]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes 1973. This is class number ten, \"Summary\", held May 3rd,1973.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following is the last recording of the Religious Studies class on Tibetan Buddhism by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. The last lecture is a summary, given May 3rd, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=0.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to draw conclusion in what we've been studying. I think one of the most important fundamental point is that, not only particular on behalf of Buddhism alone, but from the point of view of spiritual traditions of the world, that understanding the differences between a religion and a spirituality. And also understanding the idea of spiritual materialism, and true spirituality is. I think that's one of the very important point that I would to present to everybody, to look *again*, if you didn't pick up on that particular point, worth making a note, and worth looking into it. The definition between spiritual materialism and true spirituality, that's very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=40.0,135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we come to conclusion of what spirituality is. And then again there's another approach that we should look closely, is the differences between a religion and spirituality. And spiritual materialism, as we've discussed in one of the early talks that we had on the Buddhist approach to psychology, and also we discussed little bit in the meaning of life from Buddhist point of view as well, if you recall. That idea is being that spiritual materialism is approach to regenerate, enrich one's ego, by using the help, or by using... regard any practices identical as using sedatives to relieve from the pain, accumulate pleasure. There's no giving-- [GAP IN AUDIO] --give. And even the idea of ego hasn't been mentioned at all. That you've been given various tricks, so to speak, or techniques of various kind, to work on, and the end result is this is going to make you happy forever. And that is very materialistic approach. That spirituality fundamentally need a groundwork to build its structures [GAP IN AUDIO] groundwork, there's no point in discussing the beauty of the decoration in the room--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=135.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to understand true spirituality, person must understand the basic mechanism which prevent us from enlightenment. The basic mechanism, which is ego. Before we introduce the techniques of anything, that look into the fundamental situation, which is understanding of ego. That is why whole thing is very important, to understand the Buddhist approach to psychology, is that to study the basic make-up, and to understand why there was a need for spirituality. Why the conflict arose at the beginning at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=316.0,385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The conflict arose because, that we feel that life is too unbearable. Or that we feel that life contains mystery, unpleasantness, something not quite good, to lead life, in the ordinary sense. We begin to ask questions, \"How come? Why life contains dissatisfaction? Why life contains constant hassle?\" Even if we seek spirituality, that life brings still sense of being hassled, that you be hassled that you have to sit and meditate. That you be hassled that you have to get into proper practices; it's same thing. Why that hassle is there? How come? There's some kind of basic, fundamentally something wrong about us, from that point of view. Something is unhealthy. When we introduce pleasure, relaxation, that pleasure and the relaxation turn into a hassle. [Laughs; laughter] Fundamentally something not *quite* right. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=385.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that's the whole point. To find out what's behind the whole thing, before we introduce further hassles or techniques, whatever. So the idea is to look back and back and back, and do proper research, into the fundamental problems, fundamental pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=501.0,542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be one of the important point, to really realize the difference between true spirituality, which is looking at its background. The false spirituality is looking into... entertainment, a replacement of something. If you are sick, your pain could be relieved by temporary sedatives, but your basic symptoms haven't been cured. So what we are looking for at this point, is discussing the basic symptom and how we can cure it. Rather than giving temporary relief.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=542.0,607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also understanding the karma and the rebirth, from a point of view of... once you begin to set the chain reactions constantly, you are sowing the seed of further hassle. You be hassled and you be reacting to it; by reacting to your hassling situation at the time, you are sowing seed for further hassling situations. So you be constantly speeding on and on that way. So the karma in this case is not particularly that how to accumulate good karma, opposed to the bad ones. But how to prevent karmic chain reactions *altogether* at all -- at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=607.0,667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there seem to be two types of approaches after that. One is the strict, narrow path: that you are given certain particular attitude, recommended certain particular attitude toward life, and to your practice, that you have no time or no chance to tripping about, sidetracking about. But just keep onto the narrow and straight path. Work with your basic mind, and meditate. Save yourself before you think of saving the others. Which is hinayana path, of meditation practices such as like shamatha practice, we been discussing a little bit, the techniques of meditation. Is purely simplifying into one technique, of using walking or breathing, simplify into that situation. And then if you relate -- if we're able to relate with that simplicity, and that simplicity brings a state of direct relationship with yourself and your mind. And your mind with that analytical approach: simplifying everything is into physical situations, breathing and walking and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=667.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you have next situation which is the mahayana's approach to meditation, the \"open way\". Is sitting and helping yourself alone is not enough; you also have to act accordingly, particularly related with the after sitting practice of meditation, when you step out in the world, relate to day-to-day living situation. And that approach is six paramita: generosity, discipline, morality, patience, energy, meditation, knowledge. You relate with the world. Your style of relating with world could take form of patience, could take form of generosity, could take form of morality, discipline, energy, knowledge, whatever. So those are the style of how you relate with the rest of the world. And I think that's whole-- altogether that thing we been discussing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=779.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the Buddhist approach to mysticism; the mystical experience is fundamentally not only to relate with the world as purely working basis to your development *alone*. But you relate to the world is because world is a *likeable* situation, that after all world is not bad, something you should abandon. That you should take *delight* in the living in the world. Which is the tantric approach, the mystical approach, final point of Buddhism, is that there is a tremendous energy in the world: energy of emotions, energies of all kind of situations; *all* of those are unique in itself. That you can work with that, use that, having already discipline in the meditation techniques have been practiced, and you can work with it. And that you're have guidelines within that working basis, of relating with the world, that we don't need external help particularly, but internal exposure to the world becomes a guideline to your working basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=857.0,946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that's the more or less the whole point of we've been talking about, is to start with, to develop sharp cynical approach to spirituality, religion. What is spirituality? What is the artificial spirituality? And having developed some basic understanding to that particular point, then to begin with, relate with the day-to-day living situation of pain and pleasure. That pain and pleasure are not particularly regarded as nuisance. But it is regarded as a working basis to spiritual approach. That without them there's no driving force to get onto spiritual path; that pain and pleasure are regarded as something that is workable. For the very fact you *feel* pain, you feel pleasure, therefore you must be an animal, to *feel* such \"thing.\" And if you are fundamentally animal, the teachings direct to apes. So, that you must one of the good candidates [laughter], that you can work on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=946.0,1046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the whole point is that this approach -- the pain and pleasure are not regarded as outside of the spiritual path, but it is the *heart* of the spiritual path in which that you can *relate* with it, that you can relate with your \"ape instinct.\" And ego could be said as the epitome of the ape instinct. And that's the whole approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1046.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the freedom from this point of-- nirvana from this point of view is, from Buddhism, is that... sense of freedom is how much you let go *yourself* in relating with the life experiences. If you let go with your life experiences, or begin to relate with it, as a path, then nirvana *is* the path and path is nirvana. There could be a danger of that nirvana becoming imprisonment, because you're looking for some kind of *solution*. And the solution in itself becomes entrapment, because you are so keen on having solution to problem be solved. And that in the notion of solving problem itself becomes a fundamental problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1082.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, the whole thing what we discussed in this course was still, by lack of time, extremely crude. But it's not crude in the sense of clumsy. But it is crude in the sense of because we are only able to touch \"highlights.\" And seemingly that people who take part in this course have to come back, and we have to look into further details of real exploration of the whole thing. And also it takes time to-- you to get the ideas, and then playing with the ideas that was given, and then tasting it, and testing it. And then *finally* begin to ferment that idea, and then begin to come to some kind of understanding after ferment it. So, therefore we could say that it is not purely intellectually alone, but it had to be experiential level at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nCould have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1164.0,1282.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How do Buddhists view the other great saints that have lived through history, who have sort of different ideas of-- about the nature of reality? Such as Krishna and Christ and Muhammad.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't there would be different ideas of nature of reality, particularly. There may be linguistic problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Each leaders, each spiritual teachers spoke different languages. But from Buddhist point of view, that person had come to a conclusion of ultimate reality, would be same. But questionably, may be different approaches could have misled. Maybe Buddhist approach could be misleading as well, as well as the other approaches were misleading.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Buddhists always agreed -- all the schools of Buddhist thought agree, that any stages or any techniques are useful, but at the same time, each time, techniques and approaches are hang-ups. You have to present a primitive technique and approach first, and then you get the juice out of that, the shell becomes a hang-up. And the next development destroy the shell, and take advantage of the juice. Present another shell, another juice. And then the next one destroy that, and subtract the juice. So that's how whole thing goes. Is that there's no one truth, from the point of view of the path; there are lots of truths, which is also connected with the false at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1282.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In terms of the ego, like you said that a lot times it's a hindrance. But in actual acting out doesn't the being have to have some kind of system under which he operates in terms of his behavior? And is that ego too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole point is that when we talk about the shell, is first question. The shell *is* the ego. That we have to speak ego's language, in order to transcend the ego. In other word we have to reject the first step, in order to get to the second step. But that doesn't mean to say that you'd have to completely destroy the first step, otherwise you have nothing to step on. So it's relatively that ego is useful, and not regarded as a villain. That you have to use ego's language, and ego's neurosis, in order to see the clarity as well. So, I mean transcending ego is not regarded as warfare as such, at all, from that point of view. I mean that's precisely the meaning of idea of \"goal is path,\" and \"the path is the goal.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1443.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How is passing beyond suffering related to ape instinct, is that what's passed beyond, that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Passed beyond?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How is nirvana related to ape instinct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if there is any sense of one could achieve permanent nest, cosmic nest, that's obviously ape instinct. Which is what one might call spiritual materialism. If a person is afraid of relating with the space, and unable to relate with the space as home, then there is always a problem. The ultimate idea of spiritual abode, or dharmadhatu, is finding home in the space; space is home in itself, without a comforter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1534.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In your book you say that one shouldn't think about past or future, one should only be in the now. I don't understand how you can do that. And stay alive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't quite say exactly one *shouldn't*. But past and future are regarded as individual entities, generally -- solid things. Whereas if you begin to realize, relate with the past and future are different expression of the present, then you might get entirely different approach, rather than past and future are independent entities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1630.0,1696.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Wouldn't that involve looking back on what you've done, and checking back and seeing if what you've done is particularly right or wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see that's the whole point. When you look back what you've done, you have reference point of \"now\", that's why you're looking back. You don't look back to the past -- you can't. That's purely hypothetical situation. You look back because where you came from. So you can never really look into the past or the future completely; you are looking into a different expression of \"now\", in any case. So, the idea is being one might as well to acknowledge that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well there just seem to be mentally you can be in the past though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I mean, mentally you could certainly be in past, right--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --you could be reliving--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your mind is functioning now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Although that's true, but you could mentally be reliving in certain situations that happened previously--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but the reference point of view of what's happening now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But you may not even be conscious of what's happening now, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You would be, always. That's the whole point, you'll be always aware of what's happening now. And one might as well acknowledge that nowness. We talk about winter, because we have the spring now. We talk about how cold it's outside because we are inside.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But I think I heard you mention previously that a person on the path of the bodhisattva, doesn't have any need to reflect back to check to see what he's done. That we tend to looking back, and yet...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's last thing you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, I just think maybe you could present in a different way exactly. Or I'm not quite sure of how the-- in what way that the past can be useful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, past is useful because you have present. For that matter future is useful because you have a present. Otherwise, you have nothing to pull against. The bullet is a bullet because there's a gun, to explode *with*, otherwise the bullet would be just a loose thing hanging out. 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Which is necessary to find out languages of the world. And the teenager you have to relate with how to relate with the world, into actions. Then, when you become adult then you learn how to handle the world, but still you have so much related with the energies of your life, which is a vajrayana thing. So if infant is been taught how to be adult, and drive motorcar in the street, and it would lead to suicidal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But isn't there within Buddhism a separate hinayana tradition, that doesn't [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, there's separate hinayana tradition, but there's no separate mahayana tradition without hinayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no separate vajrayana tradition without hinayana *and* mahayana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=1902.0,2027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85045/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What if you don't understand where you fit in terms of those three things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What if you don't know where you fit, in terms of those three things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you start at the beginning. 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It's like growing up. That you missed a lot of it, but you learn lot of it at the same time. And you also you have a misunderstandings as well. And then as you go along, you develop that way. I mean it's not just sudden switch, it's a slow growing process. And for one thing there's no celebrating birthdays, which makes much easier -- gradual process. 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And then we could go up from there onward. I prefer if you come back, and so that we could get into fully and completely. So I would like to invite everybody who be taking course in this particular thing. Otherwise, each year that we are starting for the novice level, and we don't get anywhere particularly. So, if you are really interested in, it would be extremely good to come back, so we could get onto much further ideas or details and so on. Please try if you are still going to be hanging around in university. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is there a possibility of two courses, or starting--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is there a possibility of starting two classes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Two classes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well starting at another--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's also possibility, that advanced class and beginner's class. That's depends on the attendance, of the how much the first advanced class consist of how many people came back. I'm sure we could work something out.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569#t=2170.0,2315.38938"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85046","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730503VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161720/file/293569/transcript/85046/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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