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Basic ground manifests through a sense of love, compassion, and warmth, expressing desire to manifest. Aspects of unborn: there is no one to give birth; no birth channel; a living reality rather than being preconceived. Unyielding quality and sense of complete certainty. Fertility orientation as process of embellishment rather than producing a child; embellishment as sense of arrogance and fearlessness. Traditional metaphors of embellishment: Saraha described as imprint of a bird in the sky; Naropa described as a snake uncoiling in mid-air. Abstract nature of this topic: becoming, or femininity, is intangible, ungraspable. “Unceasing” meaning unobstructed. Metaphor of “black market” for powerful, underground aspect of “unceasing,” undercurrent of potentiality.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Glimpses of Space","BOOK: Glimpses of the Profound","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF SPACE: Part One: Chapter 2: Unborn, Unceasing (out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF THE PROFOUND (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/glimpses-of-the-profound-3510.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 05 2022 to Nov 23 2022\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eTranscribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFinal Proof: Ruth Veleta\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eUnborn and unceasing qualities of feminine principle. Basic ground manifests through a sense of love, compassion, and warmth, expressing desire to manifest. Aspects of unborn: there is no one to give birth; no birth channel; a living reality rather than being preconceived. Unyielding quality and sense of complete certainty. Fertility orientation as process of embellishment rather than producing a child; embellishment as sense of arrogance and fearlessness. Traditional metaphors of embellishment: Saraha described as imprint of a bird in the sky; Naropa described as a snake uncoiling in mid-air. Abstract nature of this topic: becoming, or femininity, is intangible, ungraspable. \u0026ldquo;Unceasing\u0026rdquo; meaning unobstructed. Metaphor of \u0026ldquo;black market\u0026rdquo; for powerful, underground aspect of \u0026ldquo;unceasing,\u0026rdquo; undercurrent of potentiality.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/839/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1716560957","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750102VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2457.31263,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/839/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1716560957","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/241/839/original/19750102VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1716405705","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2457.31263,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750102VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750102VCTR1-PublicSeminar-1975-KCL-FemininePrinciple-Talk02] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Feminine Principle, held at Karme Choling, Vermont. This is talk number two, January 2nd, 1975. This is a CTI custom remaster made March 2022.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=0.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: The following is talk two of the seminar on The Feminine Principle, given at Karme Choling, January 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=18.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continue what we discussed yesterday, that the manifestation from the unknown and its process to reality, so to speak, is a quite involved one, and I suppose you want to get into this. And the question of that principle is identified as principle, or substance, with particular qualification, is threefold, that as we discussed yesterday, briefly, the unborn, unceasing, and its nature is like that of space, sky. So, the question of unborn this case is that the basic ground has manifest itself into taking direction towards reality through a sense of love, compassion, warmth. The qualities of love, compassion, warmth, which are synonymous, the three of them, basically, but they are synonymous to desire to manifest, at all. Desire to manifest is... the basic space has been-- had been qualified or become personality. And when that space has some tinge of something or other, then that is called manifestation, or love, compassion, warmth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=35.0,212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point the process is very... still very undefined in some sense. But at the same time, it has the qualities of unborn. For one thing that there is no one to give birth. And another part is rejection of particular birth or particular channel, that birth would-- could be given. And that particular rejection of the channel to be born as reality is known as-- what's known as \"dharmata\" in the Buddhist terminology. \"Dharma\" is again \"basic norm\", dharmata, \"ta\" makes a sense of is-ness or nowness. That the-- in other word it's question of living reality rather than that of preconceived, or our sense of uncertainty, or sense of yielding towards certain particular direction of giving birth to reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=212.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And unborn is also qualified as unborn and not having desire to be born, not willing to play with sophistries of all kinds or garbage of all kinds. So it-- the basic area or basic feeling that we can only come across is a certain sense of self-existing, transcendental arrogance, in some sense. That there is an unyielding quality. And there is a sense of complete certainty, this point, which makes the birth possible-- unborn birth possible. And such confident comes from having no characteristics, no background. And therefore we could say, quite plainly, that you have nothing to lose there, therefore you can afford to be arrogant, and proud, and chauvinistic, in some sense, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=320.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there is, somewhat, a basic depth and a basic texture which is fertility-oriented that takes place. And such fertility orientation is only manifested in the level of its fickleness, in the form of exchange back and forth. That you're willing to play with the phenomena, willing to give birth to phenomena, at all. And therefore there is a sense of journeying, which is made out of energy. And energy-- basic characteristics of energy there is its fickleness of vibrating quality, fickle quality of willing to associate itself with something or other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=417.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This approach is maybe quite similar to that of Nagarjuna's. That when he talks about the madhyamaka philosophy, and his point of view to it, is that he said that... \"Since I do not stand for any opposite argument, opposite arguments, and therefore I cannot be challenged.\" And that kind of fertility of really you're raving at some kind of egoless trip, and you have nothing to lose therefore you are begin to gain the whole cosmos, whole universe. And that kind of chauvinistic approach, which is that you are dying to give birth at the same time because you have nothing to lose. And the conventional idea of giving birth is that you are stuck with your kid, or whatever, that you have to feed the kid, you have to change your kid's diapers, and you have to give some energy. You can't have free time to go to the theaters and go to the cinema and have dinner dates with friends, and you are stuck with this particular kid. And you are imprisoned in some sense. But in this case it's not so much of details but it's a general creativeness that takes place within the base of unborn level. Within the base of unborn level because that giving birth is not particularly accented here, as such thing as reproduction of your image to somebody else's, but it is a process of embellishment that takes place which is regarded as giving birth, rather than producing a child which is separate from you and have to cut umbilical cord. And so you are producing another little monster outside of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=487.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm afraid the whole thing seem to be quite abstract this level. And I appreciate very much that I haven't had a chance to speak that way for a long time. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=660.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of unborn is-- could be said is, I suppose, an un-originated one. It's not a production of some kind, but the question of unborn is putting a further embellishment to the unborn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=678.0,707.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Long pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=707.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What we were talking about? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=734.0,743.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Embellishment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=743.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=745.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, unborn has become more unborn if you begin to embellish it with its attributes -- obviously, you accept that logic, that's the usual situation. [Laughter] That you could become more of you if you endorn yourself with all kinds of things, which make more of you. That embellishment this case is nothing not very much. It's [laughs] simply a sense of certain arrogance and a sense of fearlessness. That whatever it is, that it is presentable and it is powerful. It is more of nonexis-- it is more of taking pride in a nonexistence achievement, which is in itself achievement. Very abstract. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=749.0,842.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Saraha and the other siddhas talk about this as being imprint of a bird in the sky, which is the basic metaphor, the closest to it that one can use. And in this case the embellishment of the sky and the bird at same time, we are uncertain as to which one we try to embellish, whether the bird or the sky, but something is embellished by both, they be complementing each other. Sky is embellished by bird and bird is embellished by the sky because the bird cannot leave any trace behind it. And Naropa talks terms of snake uncoiling itself in mid-air. That if you throw a coiled snake in mid-air, that it uncoils itself and land on the ground gracefully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=842.0,911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That all of those metaphors and reference point begin to speak in terms of self-existing or self-doing, self-accomplishment of some kind this point. And we could talk in terms of that reality can be only realized by realizing its unreal-ness. [Laughs] This is tantric jargon [laughter] and it is not so much of Rinzai's koan particularly. Not as subtle as Rinzai's approach, and this is more bold and absurd, as you can see. [Laughter] But at the same time we take pride in that, and maybe that has something to do with what we talking about arrogance in this case, of the basic principle -- becoming of femininity, that's what we are talking about this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=911.0,1014.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Becoming of femininity is very un-tangible. That feminine principle has become for long time in the history of human race, that as soon as a philosophy is set up is a debatable point, and people trying to create chauvinistic barriers of all kinds, and masculine *and* feminine approach. None of them becoming a particularly good one, or at least enlightened one. So if you resort back to tantra's attitude and ideas to feminine principle, we end up by saying everything is into real world which we can't grasp. And that seem to be the essence of feminine principle, is that real world that you can't grasp, you can't actually capture in the form of chauvinism. And why? Because the feminine principle is the mother of *all* principles. If you can catch mother, then mother cease to become mother -- it becomes a lover. So mother is regarded as something that is hierarchically there, somebody-- nobody will question the existence of mother. The mother just resides on the high throne. [Laughs] And she just behave as mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1014.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in order to experience that kind of situation, that kind of reality, however unrealistic may be, that one has to willing to give into, bend into, into a-- trying to capture as philosophical, metaphysical concept that you can put the mother principle on the black-and-white written language. Although the books on the prajnaparamita is written as the mother of all the buddhas, and the books say that this book can't be captured, and it can't be put into corner, can't be cornered, and this book can't be realized. If you have realized this meaning of this book, you're regarded as heretic. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1123.0,1189.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We can discuss about the unceasing here, which is our second topic tonight. Unceasing. Unceasing is occurred because it is unborn, [laughing] obviously. And there you could say is unborn is some kind of birth. Maybe so, but on the other hand, absolutely not. [Laughter] And for the very fact that idea of that become a reality, so that means that idea can't be captured. Which is unceasing quality. That you can't grasp, you can't hold, you can't capture anymore. That reason why it is called unceasing is because out of that particular arrogance that we discussed there begin to take some of leak of secret information takes place, or leak of secret experience begin to takes place. On the quiet, the unceasing-- on the quiet, unborn is begin to manufacture our world, underworld, in mid-air, bottom of the ocean. And that is unceasing. Because that can't be obstructed or that can't be prevented in other word. That if our underground world is very active that overground world the-- of the established samsaric administration cannot able to see that particular world. And so in other word that we are talking about black market of the mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1189.0,1364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That concept is extremely powerful, extremely powerful. That concept is some kind of spiritual atomic bomb that's been manufactured in the basement. [Laughter; laughs] And the idea is that it's not so much of unceasing as that a resigning, a passive thing, but it is unable to control by any efficient organization of anything. That the overlay of the reality is unable to detect the underlayer of the reality anymore. That the surface might go quite nonchalantly, usually does, but the undercurrent is extraordinarily powerful, that begin to manufacture a world of its own in the feminine principle of potentiality and embryonic, and resourceful, and glamorous, at the same time.[Laughs] Well I'm afraid that maybe you don't have any questions and [laughter] I have completely... I've cut the throat of its own, that is to say the questions. But however, I would like to make gesture here, [laughter] that we have space for that. Can you speak loud everybody, by the way, can you speak loud if you going to ask question at all, so that you can share with the rest of the people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1364.0,1488.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Last night you talked about space expressing itself in attributes, and that was like it putting on makeup. That-- that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are we, as we generally see ourselves in this physical world of matter, that makeup? Or one aspect of that makeup?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Physical world? Well the physical world is not regarded as the makeup.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is not regarded?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the body. And within the physical world, the expressions of the physical world, that fire burns, water moistures, and wind blows, space accommodates. And that is the makeup. So the idea of makeup is expressing its own integrity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1488.0,1557.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You mean that the makeup is the qualities that the physical world has?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well if you took the qualities away from the physical world, what would you have left?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basic minimum. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well...[laughter] Considering that basic minimum which doesn't have any qualities of its own, what's physical about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the biggest question of all. It doesn't have any, therefore it does. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well it has the quality of having no qualities.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And all potentialities.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You mean the potentiality of having makeup is [UNCLEAR: another of its  qualities?]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, obviously. [Laughter] Well, space is not particularly castrated. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Uh huh... [laughter] Well it sounds like a good-- it sounds space is-- you said space is fertile in some sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's one of the qualities.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: [UNCLEAR: Now we've got three?] qualities. [Laughter] Well is space anything more than the potentiality for the makeup?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And as well as space is that which accommodate room for the makeup.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Space is that which accommodates room for the makeup?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you miss a part in your makeup in your face, that's space. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well wait--[laughter] when you said room for the makeup...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I'm not-- I don't mean room with windows and doors. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You mean by room, ability to accommodate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: So, space is that which accommodates accommodation of the makeup?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Then what is the accommodation of makeup, if that's not space, if that's something accommodated by space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: So you have space, which is accommodated by space, and that's space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it. [Laughter] It's a question of making love to itself, but not quite the level of masturbation. 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It's very powerful black market that could change nation's economy.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED TOM: What would you call the law enforcement officers trying to clean up that black market? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think law and order becomes, at that point, a part of the black market. And at the beginning attempt is they try to speak their language. The organization trying to speak the language of the black market, at the beginning. And then, when they trying to speak their language completely so that they could be communicative to the black marketeers, they find themselves in black market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1800.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If you've-- oh, forget it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If you want, start again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The black market that you were just referring to, is that synonymous with sangha? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite. It's the instigator of the sangha, and actually we haven't got into that level yet, particularly. It's very embryonic state we are talking about. We are not talking anything that actually applicable. And we are talking about metaphysics at this point of feminine principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Also, could you explain the relationship between dharmadhatu, as you spoke about it last night, dharmakaya, and dharmata? [Laughter] Well mostly, like, how does the principle of dharmakaya relate to the dharmadhatu? Is it then sudden potential energy within that, or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that dharmakaya comes much later, actually. And what we are talking this point is about the dharmadhatu in a very primeval, embryonic level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So dharmakaya would be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obsolete.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [UNCLEAR: Great?]. 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It's too much things to say at once.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2027.0,2052.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is space associated with both the underlay and overlay of reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. You see the underlay and overlay are interdependent, which is not complete world. In order to have a unified world, in order to be under, in order to be over, there is some governing factor which is space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2052.0,2087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, is there anything you can say about the world, the new world that is-- or the other world that is revealed by participating in the black market, this black market?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by this black market?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That you spoke of, the black market.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't mean \"this\" or \"that\"? Do you mean \"it\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I think you can't get away from not participating. And you are participating in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No, but is there something you can say about the qualities of the alternative world that is sort of created on the quiet?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well on the quiet is not regarded as alternative. It isn't necessary. That among fires, they have their secret language to be together as fire, as much as possible -- whether it is lit with a flint, whether it is lit with matches. Among waters, it is same thing, they have secret message all the time. That it is black market that doesn't have to be transmitted to each other and work out their passwords, but it is self-existing black market that doesn't need passwords anymore. It's self-existing one already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2087.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Are you saying that the black market is really the only market?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's expression. I'm not talking about marketing, in terms of... what's the word...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Barter? [Laughter] Sounds like it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Commerce. But I'm talking about black market in terms of purely exchange of money and goods takes place, that the rest of the society doesn't know. And basically what it does is deal with raw material. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2213.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Also, what's happening with the masculine principle, while all this is going on with the feminine principle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that hasn't arrived yet, this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You mean it hasn't become manifest?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as it goes on it does manifest, but somehow not quite visible yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is the feminine principle manifest before the masculine principle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well seemingly so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2267.0,2304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would understanding the white reality, the white market, as ego, be in some way correct? And that the world that's being created, black market of the mother, is happening beneath the surface of what the ego sees? And if so, then the ego's willingness in some way to learn that language, to be interested in communication with the black marketeers, that that's another form of subtle ego game, hoping that it can do commerce in that market in some way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well first thing is I wouldn't be all that serious about the whole thing. Another thing is that the whole thing is not very divided, particularly. It's organic process that if you have ups, if you have downs, they are both the same thing. That the growth of tree and flowers are the expressions of the depressions of the earth, otherwise you can't have trees and flowers growing. So it's works both ways. You can see beautiful flowers with honey and everything in it, nectar and everything in it, which is expression of depression, which is black market. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2304.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So then ego in some sense is an expression of the accommodation of space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well supposedly, but at the same time it doesn't manifest that way. And the whole thing become very confused. But what we are talking this point is very primordial level and early stage, that we haven't got into the later stages yet. So I wouldn't take too seriously in terms of pragmatic level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2413.0,2448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67299/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, talking about pragmatism, maybe we should be hungry. We should close.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2448.0,2457.31263"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750102VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=0.51,2.859"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nThe Feminine Principle,\nheld at Karme Choling, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=4.42,8.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number two,\nJanuary 2nd, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=8.29,11.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made March 2022.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=12.56,17.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThe following is talk\ntwo of the seminar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=18.6,22.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on The Feminine Principle,\ngiven at Karme Choling,\nJanuary 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one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=66.23,78.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I suppose you want\nto get into this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=80.0,82.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question\nof that principle\nis identified as 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Yes.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1563.03,1568.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBIN KORNMAN:\nWell if you took the qualities\naway from the physical world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1568.67,1571.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what would you have 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It's the instigator\nof the sangha,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1939.11,1944.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and actually we haven't got\ninto that level yet,\nparticularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=1945.8,1949.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very embryonic state\nwe are talking 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Great?].\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2021.34,2025.369"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6:\nIn the beginning you said\nthat the feminine principle","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2027.82,2031.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as substance is threefold --\nunborn, unceasing,\nand like the sky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2031.73,2036.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you described unborn\nand unceasing but--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2037.28,2040.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nTomorrow. [Laughter]\nTomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2041.0,2046.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's too much things\nto say at once.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2046.33,2049.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Is space associated\nwith both the underlay\nand overlay of reality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2052.95,2057.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI think so. You see the underlay\nand overlay are interdependent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2059.75,2066.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is not complete world.\nIn order to have\na unified world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2067.75,2073.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in order to be under,\nin order to be over,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2073.66,2076.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there is some governing\nfactor which is space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2077.08,2079.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nRinpoche, is there anything\nyou can say about the world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2087.09,2094.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the new world that is--\nor the other world that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2094.18,2100.905"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"revealed by participating\nin the black market,\nthis black 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[Laughter]\nSounds like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2230.73,2236.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nCommerce. But I'm talking\nabout black market","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2236.27,2244.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of purely\nexchange of money\nand goods takes place,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839#t=2244.25,2250.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/128988/file/241839/transcript/67300/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the rest of the society\ndoesn't 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