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Relationship of conventional morality to morality of bodhisattva path. One can't abandon societal morals completely or cherry-pick to enhance ego. Worthwhile to understand conventional rules, which allows one to leap out. Bodhisattva's exertion as bound by sanity instead of established ethics. Point of view is from totality instead of from extremes or \"sides\", and accepting what's there as the message. Virya is taking delight in the situation as it is and then working with it.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 6: The Open Way: Tradition\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 08 2020 to Nov 28 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn the fourth bhumi, radiant (archismati in Sanskrit), involving the exertion (virya) paramita. Relationship of conventional morality to morality of bodhisattva path. One can't abandon societal morals completely or cherry-pick to enhance ego. Worthwhile to understand conventional rules, which allows one to leap out. Bodhisattva's exertion as bound by sanity instead of established ethics. Point of view is from totality instead of from extremes or \"sides\", and accepting what's there as the message. Virya is taking delight in the situation as it is and then working with it.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Ten Bhumis, held at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in Colorado. This is talk number six, August 8th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Ten Bhumis held at Rocky Mountain Dharma in August, 1972. This will be talk number six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=0.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next stage of bodhisattva's experience is that of \"virya.\" Sanskrit definition of word \"virya\" is referred as somewhat, \"hardworking\", or \"heroic approach,\" to whatever person is involved. And Shantideva talks about in his work on the Bodhisattvacharyavatara is being \"delight in the virtue.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=31.0,86.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point I think we have to discuss something else, along with that situation. That today's interview with a lot of people, and discussions that I had with some of my interviewees, had inspired to this particular topic, very strangely enough. I think we have to discuss the difference between conventional morality, of \"hard-working\", of \"being good,\" opposed to the *unconventional* morality in being good in the bodhisattva's path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=86.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From the point of view of idea of conventional morality, which is well-founded in old school of thoughts of Buddhism, as well as in the other schools of tradition of all kinds -- that of Hinduism, that of Christianity, that of Judaism, Sufism, Zoroastrian, or whatever you have -- that all of the schools of thoughts agree together that there is \"common goodness,\" that behave well, well-behaved, and be good. And acknowledge the fundamental harmony, total order, and so forth. And consequently that has been incorporated in the political scenes as all, that \"King is the defender of the faith.\" So if you are being-- behaving unlawfully, that is the legally punishable, as well as spiritually punishable. And all that kind of situations involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=138.0,221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we can't abandon all that approach as being old hat. And we can't become our swinging morality. [Laughter] Up-to-date morality. That seem to be one of the problems that we involved, that we reject tradition *altogether*, even the smell of it, the suggestion of it, is being bad. That there's no truth in it. \"Because that how my parents treated me, and how my schooling treated me. And because of my parents, my schooling and my involvement of being in the city, or being in the world, which send me to mental hospital.\" [Laughter] We tend to blame on that particular situation, that, \"Everything what happened in my life into the level of red tape, is neurosis, and that's there to be blamed.\" So we denounce the church, we denounce the synagogues [laughs; laughter], we denounce the mosque, or we denounce anything, temples. But we tend to find our own church, our own temple, our own synagogue, within ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=221.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there's something goes on between the two situations. That there's a faint uncertainty. We rejected the exterior of the church of course, we have done so; denounced everything. But underneath there is something uncertain. \"Maybe there's some truth in those people, maybe they are speaking the truth. But I'm going to interpret it in my own way. I'm going to justify my own existence, as I am truly Christ, as he might be or truly Muhammad as he might be, truly Buddha as might be,\" so forth. It's very difficult situation to purely reject, and regard everything as purely spiritual materialism from that sense, alone. That way of defining spiritual materialism as a whole, is that simple-minded approach, that you get kick out of certain practices you do, and you make that glamorous aspect of yourself. Or else that your existence proves that practice that you're involved. And of course what we are discussing this case, is we are approaching to very minorities people, we are not really giving this message to the rest of the Americans. We are talking about very exclusive people who are on the spiritual trip. But however, that exclusive people are the essence of it, energy of it, of the country, intellectual of the country, intelligent of the country, a dynamo of the country, at the same time. So we can't ignore that being, trying to present to the rest of the country, trying to meet the basic situations that conventional morality is applicable as far as they're concerned alone, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=311.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So our problem is that the fools that the church makes, whether it is laughable, or whether there is something in it. It's both; it is laughable, because their simple-mindedness, their stupidity, of hypnotized by the doctrine, or the dogma. But on the other hand, reason why they are hypnotized is worth looking into. It could be one of us, in a slightly older generation. Who could be hypnotized equally at the same time. And we never question about that, we just accept it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=459.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, virya that what the bodhisattva's bhumi is concerned, the fourth bhumi of bodhisattva is virya, as-- is regarded as keeping along with the tradition: that's my own interpretation, my own version of it. It literally says \"working hard,\" acknowledging there's something to be worked hard at, some facilities to be worked *with*, and heroism, inspired by your virtue, whatever that may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=510.0,555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's discuss virtue. In the Tibetan tradition of Gelukpa school, talks about virtue as being white. [Laughs] Which is also in keeping with the cowboys' mentality. [Laughter] \"It is very white of you to do me such thing. It is very white of you to be kind to me.\" [Laughs; laughter] [Aside to someone: a Catholic?]. Virtue is related with pure white, clean, presentable, and so forth. That's very interesting. Purity, good, being kind, being clean, is also associated with getting to the basics; without color, almost up to the level of camouflaging yourself. That you don't become a spectacular person, you don't have any colors, you just blend yourself with the land, keep up with the society; camouflaged. Is connected with being white in this case, in the ordinary simple-minded level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=555.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time, in order to be virtuous, in order to be good white [laughs; laughter], that you also need colors as well. Intensify your inspiration, that you need something to work along with. So that's precisely the same analogy that we be talking about: the basic white, basic camouflage, being good citizen is being good camouflage, from that sense. But at the same time being *extraordinary* good citizen, to add to the society's standard of living, to raise the standard of living of society. That whiteness needs also colors, to raise the standard of living of pure dead white, more pure white, colorful white. Something to contrast with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=646.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's connected with that idea of \"virya\": *delight* in the virtue. That you don't have to keep up with the tradition or the society or conventional morality in-- from the point of view of, afraid to make next, but *take* the next step, leap out, if you like. Step out of the tradition, conventionality or whatever. But however, the reason why that you step out of conventionality is because that you know the conventionalities so well. That's why you're leaping out. So inspiration comes from the squareness or the conventionality, which inspired to be extraordinary purity from that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=710.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore virya of bodhisattva's action could be said as extraordinary pure white. That you're not bound by law, order, or whatever, morality, but your existence is being ordinary. By being ordinary, that you don't kill somebody on the spot, because you felt faint aggression towards him. For that matter, you don't make love to a girl on the spot, on the street, because you felt passion towards her. In other word we could say that is the hesitation. \"Of course I don't want to screw a chick on the street. [Laughter] I'd be embarrassed about it.\" Something more than that. There is the possibilities of doing so, and there's hesitation of doing so. It becomes a very strange situation there: there's half-suggested situation; at the same time, there's rejection of that suggestion, in which there's no delight in it; there's a total sense of depression. [Laughter] \"I wish I could, [laughter] but society doesn't permit me. I couldn't possibly do it on the street [laughter]. On the-- whatever John Lennon says, \"Why don't we do it on the--?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: \"In the road.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] It's impossible to do that. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=766.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That hesitation could be said as a stepping-stone. In fact, to some people's point of view it is could be regarded as approaches of conventional morality. Which keeps you acting spontaneously. But on the other hand, it is that your basic sanity, which keeping you acting spontaneously, from that point of view. It's a very faint line or somewhat very strong line, with very hazy edges. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=889.0,940.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are we being complaining about our society, our squareness? And also we being complaining about our society of its looseness; approaching from both angles. But at the same time that we are at war of who possess the sanity. Everybody is hungry of that little line goes between the two, they are at war. The other aspect is trying to fight for it, and other aspect is turn nose at it, with love light trip or whatever. Energy or virya from that point of view is a *delight* situation; it's beautiful area to look at, work with it. It becomes more juicy than anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=940.0,1003.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Virya, working hard, taking delight in that whole prospective situation, of that hesitation, or extreme spontaneity; it's beautiful to look at, and beautiful work at it. So that delight in itself is basic approach of sanity, that our delight has opened our eyes into that situation. That we are approaching that situation from *totality*, rather than from the point of view of the \"that\" or the \"this\", or \"this\" or the \"that\", whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1003.0,1046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the common working ground. Conventional morality is beautiful. When I say that, there could be distortions involved as well of course, by a certain up-to-date school of thought. When you say \"convention\", you have \"morality is beautiful,\" then tend to make into pop art, out of it. Pop art. Collage. Like sticking together dollar bills with psychedelic paintings side-by-side. That's not quite regarded as a genius at all. It's-- I'm afraid it's epitome of frustration. [Laughter] That you haven't unresolved-- you haven't unresolved any of your parental situation, or your life situation, therefore you make mockery of everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1046.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And quite possibly way to react against world, or trying to make world acknowledge that we hadn't be acknowledged enough, is quite possibly there will be demonstration of copulation on the street. Which nothing happened, so far. But that's-- on the way to that, from that sense. \"Conventional morality is bad, our freedom is good.\" And between the bad and good, you present something extraordinarily neurotic, unthinkably neurotic. [Laughter] You manufacture it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1140.0,1195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, from my point of view, although I'm not American citizen, that there's no worth making America as gigantic pop art display. Auto-destructive, or creative-destructive or concrete poems, or whatever you have. Sounds very solemn. At the same time it's very creative. Because there's that possibility at the same that because there's that not possibility at the same time. That's where the bodhisattva is misjudged: \"very sane, very approachable. As well as like cool mountain stream, refreshing!\" That we begin to hear some other way of looking at bodhisattva's way, to relating with the whole world, or neurotic world. Taking delight in action, from that point of view, the totality. That we don't have to go through those extremes as such. But we begin to accept what is there, as the message. And we look into it much further, much more, much more detailed situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1195.0,1294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And virya, or the energy from this point of view, bodhisattva's approach, is involved with working with the situation, in its fullest sense. That there's already energies involved in working with the situation; in other word, that polarity that we've been discussing between the split world. So that both split world becomes inspiration, in spite of that your own allegiance or particular trip or whatever: that you become capitalist or communist, whatever. If you become communist, that your allegiance to communist is much heavier. But still, that your inspiration begins from capitalist. But how to be a communist you have to learn something to not be, which comes from the capitalist approach. So therefore working basis of energy is *always* there; it's very powerful, that's the best analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1294.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from bodhisattva's point of view it is the war between-- basically war between that of the awakened person and that of samsaric person. So that relationship or change of situation comes all along in the same way, constantly, relationship goes on constantly. That all thing speaks of that had to get down to the basic living situation. That we can't *negate* what we are, and we can't change ourselves what we might be. But we had to become what we *are* in our living situation. Which goes a long way. People are fascinated by Oriental philosophy and monasticism, wishing that they were Oriental, had slit eyes and so forth [laughter], black hair and so forth. That's fascism in some sense then. Condemning whole culture and turning again another culture. Since we are breathing this country's air in this very moment, and we can't reject anything particularly at all. That the very cynicism of somebody's crude trip, of Christianity or whatever is may be, is bouncing back on us. Our criticism not fundamentally profound enough to reject it. That our neurosis goes along with that situation as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1360.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I fear I said too much. That basically, let me say very few things. [Laughter] The virya of bodhisattva's bhumi is concerned, it is connected with that of taking delight in the situation, whatever its working basis involved. And not making sectarian distinction, or sense of being smarter than somebody else. But taking delight in what *is*. And then working with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. We could have a discussion on that. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1481.0,1529.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you discuss things like Christianity and Judaism and Buddhism, it strikes me that it leaves out a perspective, that it's not just the tradition that's rejected, but the *hypocrisy* with which that tradition has been handed down. I mean it's-- the whole ideal of, you know, tied to the peacemaker, and that you know, willing to [INAUDIBLE] or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say Ku Klux Klan is a way of rejecting tradition, and translate in terms of your own aggression. Or any kind of evangelistic approach that involved, is a way of killing your own doubt, and giving into the emotional upheaval. That you would like to accept yourself into that particular circle, particular tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word that we have a very subtle situation here, that when we tend to make a mockery of the traditions, it's the *crude* traditions, unenlightened traditions. But when we are trying to get into any kind of inspiration, we have to borrow these inspirations already developed, whether it is Buddhism or Hinduism, Christianity, whatever. At that point that it becomes very clear that what we are trying to say here is that simple-minded approach: \"Take communion, go to church every Sunday.\" And that is your definition of being good Christian. Because the vicar acknowledges, and he begin to see that you are familiar face, who comes every day that your church. And after all the vicar is the only way to Christ. Whatever, whether it is that of the Catholic tradition or conformist or whatever, that simple act of just being in the building, communicating with the vicar, clergyman, shaking his hand. I mean that's absurd! [Laughter] Embarrassing in fact. [Laughter] Spirituality is much more than that! Teaching Christ talked about is much more than that! Obviously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in other word that we should think twice. Conventionality of that particular situation, is not only spokesman of Christ's tradition, his teaching, but there's something more than that. And same thing you could say in the Buddhist traditions, and like as well, that one receiving donations constantly. What happens in the hinayana places, theravadin traditions in Southeast Asia, that the monks go out and give their sermon, they will time that they get there pre-noon, so their meals be cooked for them, to begin with. They say their whatever -- chanting, sutra. And laymans present them with the food and the gifts of all kinds. In the modern society that is known that rich laymans present them with transistor radios, color televisions, motor car. They accept them as part of their generosity, making merit. They go back with their color television, motorcars, in their monasteries. [Laughter] So finally the monasteries get inflated with all kinds of materialistic things. And having given their gift, their three way of acknowledging the gift is \"sadhu, sadhu, sadhu,\" which means \"good, good, good.\" [Laughter] It's being fine. And there is all kinds of corruption of that kind, into the superficial level of teaching. Wherever that you're involved, always that kind of situation involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut at the same time, something more than that. That could be only discovered by being delighted in the something more that that, even though you do not know what *is*. But working along with it. That seem to be definition of \"virya.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAt the moment in America, at this very moment -- like here, situation here, and other situations -- is that Americans have less idea of Buddhism, what Buddhism might be, a sense of \"church.\" So that teachers could present the teaching as purely teaching, rather than that we are trying to gain any kind of territories. Therefore teaching becomes much more powerful and workable situation. Which that this particular pattern follows all over the country, and historical that when Buddhism came to Japan, China and Tibet, all pattern follows, that there are *highly* enlightened people, they churn out enlightened people. At the early stage when Buddhism was presented, up to something like seventy-five years, when Buddhism became \"church\" after that, then degree of enlightened people went down. Until they become very aggressive politicians. It seem that at this point that teaching of Buddhism in America is concerned, is most inspired and developed process. But quite possibly, Buddhism could become plastic, at the generation of your great-grandchildren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=1529.0,2022.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In that case, Rinpoche, how do you reconcile that process with what you described with what you also often describe as the transmission becoming richer and richer, the lineage becoming richer and richer. I mean I-- this when you see always this generations...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, in both cases that it works like triangle situation. That when there's more spiritual materialism in terms of church, then there will more reactions involved with those that really possess the teachings of the doctrine, teaching. And as the process develops they become more-- regarded as more exclusive people. But their knowledge become much more powerful. It's like putting triangle together, two pyramids one pyramid upward, one pyramid downward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Christianity? Did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE ].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's not quite true. The dogma prevents the lineage, [UNCLEAR: apparent?] lineage, as been seen. But Christianity is very interesting situation actually; it's one of the basic spiritual geography, or spiritual social situation. Christianity is presented in a very centralized situation: believe in God and his son, Christ, and also filter through, in Catholic tradition, authorities of the Pope or whatever. But then Christianity become-- democratic situation has developed. That every person here in this tent is could be said is enlightened Christians. That's why they're here. Because that's your heritage, that's the idea of lineage. Because you're enlightened Christians, therefore you are open your mind towards Buddhism. You have some of your cultural heritage already, and the spiritual heritage already. And we can't deny that, in any case. It's that-- very strangely, that intensity of Christianity in a democratic way, of not having savior or saint, or messiah, as one person, but everybody decide to become messiah or saint, savior, at least into their own level. Everybody *is* saint in their own level. And that's why that they become good vessels of the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe can't ignore the whole together, the cultural heritage at all, you see. That's the ecological factor that is involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [UNCLEAR: What about?] [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Himself. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [UNCLEAR: --business. I don't understand?]. Why would he be delighted with himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because he has nothing to lose. Therefore he has nothing to gain. Period. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThe second question, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2022.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is-- are these characteristics of the bodhisattva path also characteristics of being on the path to enlightenment according to [UNCLEAR: Buddha's? Buddhism?] [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so. You know, Buddha was not Buddhist. Christ was not a Christian. [Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2256.0,2291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, you spoke about accepting and rejecting tradition, and in the light of that [INAUDIBLE WORDS] evidence and [INAUDIBLE] situation [INAUDIBLE], and also neurosis. I was thinking about neurosis because you seem to talk about it quite a lot. Can you visualize-- can you say your teachings, in terms of a post-neurotic age, in the sense that maybe neurosis is another cultural heritage which might or might not be accepted.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the neurosis are never out-of-dated. It's always there. So even teaching is involved that might involve with the whole world, is expression of neurosis. That's why there's freedom is involved at the same time. It's very simple. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2291.0,2363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Can there be true morality without [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the beginner's level there is none. You have to approach from dogmatic situation: \"be good,\" \"sit and meditate,\" and so forth. If you relate that way as your personal aspiration, *then* you transcend conventional morality from this sense -- from point of view of tonight's talk, or the virya, as far as concerned.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So until then you could sort of fix that formula [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well that's what we do anyway. I mean, we do not know what really we are doing, but we been told to sit cross-legged, and sit, and spend the whole day. [Laughter] I mean who knows that's best? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Although it doesn't quite fit at this exact moment, I always wonder what you mean when you say \"spiritual\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiritual. I mean... making cup of tea, properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What did you mean by \"neurotic\"? I forgot to ask you that. [Laughter] How would [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you spill your cup of tea. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2363.0,2493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another question coming from that direction.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO: MISSING QUESTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you didn't fight. Trying to get-- trying to overcome it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is that always [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is that always [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is the fight?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With society?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: With society [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't sound like a bodhisattva.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well maybe he's not [INAUDIBLE] already. Then he's a bodhisattva, and he [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Because it sounds like he doesn't have any respect, to the neurosis or whatever. That he's not using as -- what you call -- manure. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE] to the manure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2493.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Then why does-- why hesitate at all, in the boy meets girl situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, I really think it was [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's not the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well what's the point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we do not know what we are doing. But we want to *do* something, but even that is not defined. So that's why presentation or courtship becomes very clumsy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: We have to find out why we're hesitating?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not exactly, I mean you could come out without hesitation very strongly. And that's could be called \"rape.\" But that's not the point there either. Being there; being with yourself, somewhat. I mean, there's no word for it to explain, but it is actu-- it is expression of neurosis of some kind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Hesitation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2559.0,2667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64037/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to stop at this point, with--\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=2667.0,2679.48408"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720808VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=0.65,2.999"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on The Ten Bhumis,\nheld at the Rocky Mountain\nDharma Center in Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=4.1,8.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number six,\nAugust 8th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=8.37,11.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October, 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=12.72,17.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=18.71,20.609"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on The Ten Bhumis\nheld at Rocky Mountain Dharma\nin August, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=21.13,26.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=26.42,28.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next stage of\nbodhisattva's experience\nis that of \"virya.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=31.99,42.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sanskrit definition\nof word \"virya\"\nis referred as somewhat,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=47.03,58.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"hardworking\",\nor \"heroic approach,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=59.75,64.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to whatever person\nis involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=65.89,67.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Shantideva talks\nabout in his work","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=70.22,74.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the Bodhisattvacharyavatara\nis being\n\"delight in the virtue.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=74.92,82.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point I think we have\nto discuss something else,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=86.19,89.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"along with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=90.99,92.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That today's interview\nwith a lot of people,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=93.65,104.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and discussions that I had\nwith some of my interviewees,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=105.5,110.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had inspired\nto this particular topic,\nvery strangely enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687#t=111.89,116.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121546/file/226687/transcript/64038/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we have to discuss\nthe 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