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Understanding how we always create a background situation in whatever we are doing, to create a certain effect, even to ourselves. Sitting practice reverses that, purely experience rather than looking for effect we are creating. Vipashyana experience extends out of that; mindfulness becomes awareness, inquiry, focused on other.. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q7} How one experiences thoughts in vipashyana; [Q9] how we usually act out of self-importance; the threat of being told we don't actually exist; [Q10] discussion on traditional connection of jhana states with vipashyana, which Trungpa Rinpoche says is unnecessary; [Q12] Explains differences between shamatha and vipashyana experiences; how awareness expands.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Path is the Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE PATH IS THE GOAL: Part Two: Chapter 3: The Portable Stage Set\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-path-is-the-goal-1146.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2 (in contained book THE PATH IS THE GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2024 to Mar 30 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R6"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroduction to vipashyana practice. Understanding how we always create a background situation in whatever we are doing, to create a certain effect, even to ourselves. Sitting practice reverses that, purely experience rather than looking for effect we are creating. Vipashyana experience extends out of that; mindfulness becomes awareness, inquiry, focused on other.. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q7} How one experiences thoughts in vipashyana; [Q9] how we usually act out of self-importance; the threat of being told we don't actually exist; [Q10] discussion on traditional connection of jhana states with vipashyana, which Trungpa Rinpoche says is unnecessary; [Q12] Explains differences between shamatha and vipashyana experiences; how awareness expands.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Vipashyana, Insight Meditation, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number three, held September 9th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following is Talk Three of a Vipashyana Seminar held at Tail of the Tiger, September 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=0.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think probably we should discuss tonight, or this afternoon, whatever, is various types of background that we operate; with the help of various types of background we operate our lives. And that particular background is uncertain to us, dubious. That the background that we create when we enter into somebody's room, that background that we create when we sit by ourselves, and the background that we create when we meet somebody else. This kind of a background is partially basic space, which you carry around with you. And also, at the same time this kind of background is colored by your particular mood of the given situation. That in order to operate as a individual, that we have also portable stage set that we carry around us. That we make ourselves into a little display of a theater piece, constantly. That we do that in any case, all the time, in our life situation. That we have our appropriate backdrop, and that we have appropriate lighting, and we have appropriate actors -- namely you. And this will come on the stage, could be included. We do that constantly, always. So, there is a game, or play, is taking place, constantly. That we are constantly using our antenna so to speak, to feel out the total effect of the stage that we carry along with us constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=55.0,309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, the question of vipashyana is concerned, that we are dealing with this particular situation. That the portable theater that you carry along with you constantly, no matter whether you are big deal or small deal. That there's some kind of deal is happening. And vipashyana is to deal with that situa-- that big deal or that small deal, big small and small big, great, large, littlest, expansive, cunning, clever -- whatever setup that you chose to established.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=309.0,384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the vipashyana situation, instead of being extremely busy in setting up theater, theatrical stage, that we are working on an area that could be-- that your attitude could be changed, much more than set of theater. And how you do it, and why you do it; if you have to do so, if you don't have do do so. Then what is all about? It is still in level of inquiry, in some sense. But at the same time it is the level of experience, rather than purely inquiry without experiential approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=384.0,472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of vipashyana, that the practitioner has experienced the game that practitioner is playing, setting up theater. And from that you learn, or you pick up your new way of dealing with the whole thing without it being game, which is the sitting practice of meditation. As soon as one begin to sit, you don't sit for display, or for particular effect. It's a very private thing, in some sense. That sitting practice becomes relevant to the radiation that you are creating. And previously radiation is creating to impress, overpower. And in this case it is reverse: to experience, to face-to-face with what it is, rather than overpowering or impressing the audience. And you have no audience when you sit and meditate. You are your own audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=472.0,567.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But even then it is possible there is very little subtle trick is taking place. That you are congratulating yourself, sitting and being good boy, and trying to make some kind of display. It's very subtle. That games are like onion peel, one after another. There's constant games happening, obviously. But somehow you can deal with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=567.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By having basic trainings in the shamatha experience that we discussed yesterday, having had that kind of basic training already. And from there that we begin to expand. But at the same time I would like to make more accent on the importance, and need, of the shamatha experience. Is *extremely* important. Without that particular foundation, that a person is in no position-- no situation to experience vipashyana at all. Having had basic shamatha training already established, the person begin to expand the meaning of mindfulness into a meaning of awareness. Mindfulness being fully there, and awareness is totally sensing the happenings are seen at once, which is known as panoramic vision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=604.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Panoramic vision this case, is having a sense of entire radiation that we create. That we possess certain mannerism, certain style, that is reflected outward, at the same time. And this case purely thinking process, experiential process. That when you sit, you develop a sense of appreciation of things around you. Not one-by-one but totally. It's like a light reflecting from a flame or bulb, that expands its radiation out. But at the same time this radiation is without radiat*or*. That if you look into who's doing all these tricks, display, radiation -- nobody. Idea doesn't exist even, let alone concepts and possibilities. Pure sense of openness. That you can relate with the living world as open world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=689.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think one of the basic point is that in the vipashyana experience which we have to discuss later, much more clearly, but tonight we are discussing the purely introduction to vipashyana concept, as such. And it is necessary to understand that vipashyana experience does not exceed to the level of a game, but purely level of experience. Living experience of awareness, opposed to mindfulness. Awareness this case, is not so much awareness of itself, but awareness of the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=823.0,884.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The differences between the two is that if you're aware of yourself being aware of yourself being aware of yourself being aware of yourself, then there is some kind of incest takes place. Whereas if you are just being aware, that's openness, welcoming gesture. That you are including your doings within your realm, so you don't punish or you don't watch. You don't question particularly, but you just be. That seem to be the basic approach to insight, basic... policy, so to speak, of the idea of insight meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, we could switch around, discuss together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=884.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you understand that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you have a radiat-*or*, then radiator had to work itself up to the level that enough radiation is expanded, reflected. So it cease to become radiation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But doesn't that radiation cease to exist when the radiator ceases to radiate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Radiation can only exist if there is no radiator. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So we're back where we were yesterday. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right! [Laughter] Things can only flow if the flow is the process, rather than somebody is instigating the flow. Then it's deadly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=972.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In your last remark before the discussion, when you said it's not so much awareness of self but of other, did you mean by that that one's-- that the reactions which seem to be coming from oneself have no more priority or value than what seems to be occurring on the outside world? That it's all one field? Or do you literally mean that in this response-- in this awareness that you are not aware of yourself as being separate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think awareness of the other is simply same thing that we were talking about a few moments ago, is the idea of radiation without radiator. That something happens, awareness takes place, awareness is in its own way a hundred percent. Rather that you should watch the your awareness by being careful, a speculator, or instigator. So one of the problems that the-- if you have a very efficient instigator, then your product is killed. I mean that's the self-existent suicidal takes place constantly, which is known as neurosis.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So if you have a man in-- standing by a mountain, his awareness would be purely of mountain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well he is not important, because mountain's around him. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1071.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I can't conceive-- or let me put it this way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [Laughs] Before I get caught in the trap. [Laughter] When you said-- and which I could grasp about explaining radiation without a radiator, or radiation center, namely as a stage of process of interaction. However, if you're going to just draw attention to the mountain, as *opposed* to the self, you're still assuming that there's a self to be gotten rid of. In other words, I thought a truly open awareness would be directed towards the mutuality of this self and the other, or the mutual nonexistent. I can't see singling out the others at the expense of the self, or vice versa. I mean, isn't that giving a sort of a negative importance to the self?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think any problems there particularly. One could be open to the mountain, and you could see the mountains more freely without you. Whereas on the other hand if you have a stomach upset, or headache, and at the same time you're trying to look at the mountain to cheer yourself up, and you have a problems of trying to maintain your own self and trying to look at the mountains. And you neither have complete experience of your own headache or the mountains.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But may I just carry this one step further?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, please go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I never experience-- what I experience is always-- I can't separate my stomach-- in other words I can't perceive myself as nonexistent. In other words, I'm alwa-- there's no special stage in which I feel that I have a stage which is now a perfect stage to view something. I may have a stomachache. I might feel joyful, so the mountains reflect that joy. It's not that I'm projecting it in an egocentric way, but I feel that my joy, my happiness, my tranquility, and the mountain are in a mutual intercourse. And so I don't know what a mountain is by itself, know what *I* am by myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you must admit, if you have a stomach upset, the mountains also have a stomach upset. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, and when I-- but then I don't know what a mountain would be, in fact anything would be, without there being a process of intercourse.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's not a problem; you're not going to lose your world, if you don't have intercourse. [Laughter] You don't have to extend your belly button [laughter], to umbilical cord. And that's been cut long time ago, since you were born. And it would be too complicated to renew your umbilical cord. And that has been the *problem* in fact. That if I have a world, is world your prey? Or world is just world; you're you. There's separateness which is in fact more of a grand union than anything else. Because of the separateness, therefore there could be unity. And unity doesn't have to be glued together. That's what's known as imprisonment, in fact. That you don't have to keep track of yourself particularly. Whereas if you see the reflection of yourself, the mountains are *you* anyway; if you get a headache, mountains get a headache too, in your way of looking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And so there's really-- I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There's-- I mean the point is that I'm perfectly willing to accept the fact that the mountains give me the headache or the mountains are my headache, or whatever else. Because I don't particularly feel the need to emphasize the belly button connection.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, that's right. If mountains have a headache, let it be that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I think we agree but I don't know where we're at. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, try it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1209.0,1479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you stop yourself from giving the mountains an aspirin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [Laughs] How do you stop yourself when you feel like you ought to be giving the mountains an aspirin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there any problem? Well I'm not saying that you should feel pain, and therefore you should torture yourself, you know. You can go to the emergency in hospital, if you're severely sick. And you take aspirin. There's no problem. I don't see any problems. We are not talking about trying to create revolt against the world. We are not talking about creating guerrilla warfare to the rest of the world. And we are talking about how to look at how to be with it. And I don't see any particular problems. You take aspirin, who's also at the same time sick -- because you're sick, your aspirin is sick as well. And you take it, and so then misery loves company. [laughter] And aspirin cures your headache.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1479.0,1580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you talk of the vipashyana experience in terms of the analogy of the tree that we were working with in the first lecture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we are begin to work on the level of that trying to mind business of the tree, and we're begin to pick up a pair of secateurs [clippers] and begin to crop leaf by leaf, this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we haven't discussed the details tonight yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Oh, okay, so that will come.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, hopefully. [Laughter] Depends on the mood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1580.0,1624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is vipashyana a maturation of the shamatha experience, or does it need some kind of special ceremony, an abhisheka or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know how about changing the shift. I don't think that does exist. It's like if you press the button at the first floor in the elevator, because of you pressed the button it-- when you're at first floor, you might have pressed three or four or five if you want to go up, still you pressed the button at the level of the first floor. And with your inspiration to press this fifth button, or the hundred and tenth button, whatever, you go up. So that inspiration continues and carries you. So it's a question of shamatha experience, with possibilities of vipashyana inspiration. That you're not making shamatha experience as a cozy home, as such, or heroic evangelical trip, of anything. But you're starting on that, then you slowly grow, automatically. That seem to be natural process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1624.0,1730.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a gentleman over there; do you want to ask still? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You've talked about the panoramic awareness, mostly in terms of awareness of environment. And I'm wondering if that mode of operation would alter one's experience of one's own thoughts, or experience of like states other than waking, like in a dream or in sleep. Would that experience be altered at the level of panoramic experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well those are also your environment. There's no other environment but than your thoughts. Like if you hate somebody, and your enemy approaches you. And you create hostile environment, which is your thinking, your doing. If you feel highly turned on to enlightenment, by seeing some enlightenment object, you create that kind of environment. So thoughts *are* your environment from that point of view. And there's no other environment than that. You see, the whole thing is not really mysterious. It's always there, and it's very literal at the same time, very obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1730.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I want-- I'd like to explore [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --this theater of the self. In meditation, I come aware of my theatrical performance, and my lighting and my acting. Okay. And then I come back again, and I'm still in the theater, whenever I'm interacting. That's what I'm seeing -- I don't see any ways. Now I'm back in the theater again; I'm out of meditation and I'm back in the theater -- discussion group, let's call it. [Laughs; laughter] And here I am again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, I-- the only thing I've seen is that I've made a circle, back into the theater. And I-- what I'm imagining is that there was some implication, that when I go into meditation and become aware of that, when I come back to the theater, something changes. But you didn't talk about that. Now am I imagining wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Or do I simply come back into the theater and be theatrical again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well not quite that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: As I'm being now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But I think the question is we're talking about a discipline. And actually in a real theater, or theater group -- the Open Theater, or blah blah Theater, whatever [laughter] -- that people feel they are disconnected from the theater world, when they have to be disciplined in their practice. Which is usually called \"warmup,\" which is a euphemism. In fact it's demand. That before you turn on to the performance you do warmup, which is also a discipline. Which is-- the name begin to deceive you, the term \"warmup\" is deceiving you. But at the same time, that any area of discipline that comes up you lose your theater. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is theater going on here right now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But because you are not going through a particular training at this point, you are just listening, very convenient. It's entertaining at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So this theater?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This is theater now, at this point. But when you begin to sit meditate, and when you have an ache in your legs, or stiff neck, then the beautiful theater world begin to diminish.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay, may I say something? I'm enjoying this theater. This is a real-- as real experience for me as meditation. And you're here, doing theater. And I'm imagining that this is a real experience for you in some way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What you are doing here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not enough. There's not enough-- we are regrouping, rather than this is the goal, by no means. What we are doing is not the goal, not the final product. That you paid your money, you got your ticket, and there you're here watching beautifully. No. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And it is part of the process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Part of the process, obviously--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Just as important as the discipline.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But I think it's necessary to have personal experience of facing yourself. And that brings-- reduces the sense of showmanship. Which is very demanding. Meditation is the only way. Write it down there. [Laughter] [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=1817.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Isn't part of what creates the theater the sense of our own importance? If you think you're someone who's very important, doing something very important, you have a tendency to want to, as you say, overwhelm the audience with your presence. But if you've got no sense of self-importance, or you can manage to lessen your self of sense-- your sense of self-importance, there's no theater. Who are you acting for? If you're not important, and they're not important, and you're not important, we're just *here*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid it doesn't work as simple as that. That even if things are not important, you make theater of unimportantness. [Laughter] You always do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well why is it that the theater seems to imply something that's contrived, something not spontaneous, something rehearsed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because there's a sense of self-consciousness, and a sense of that *you* are the center of the game.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's because you think you are important.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. You think you are terribly unimportant. But you could still sit on the toilet seat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you could make yourself at as the middle of universe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Why would you want to do that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! [laughter] That's the question! That's the big question. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, why? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I-- you know, it's very hard for me to relate to someone [laughing] wanting to do that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Well, and that seem to be the basic point. And we have to find out. By sitting, and meditating. That's the only way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well there-- I think there are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can be told why you're doing so and so and so, but then you're creating further theater by doing so, you see?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You mean you think everything we do is theater?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] Except meditating. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, why isn't meditating doing theater?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you meditate long enough you find out it's not so pleasant. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, doing theater isn't so pleasant either.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it doing some kind-- SPEAKER9: Doing theater is horrible.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean. It gives you some sense of survival.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But you've got a sense of survival anyway. You're here. You're surviving. What's the-- I don't understand where this-- where the theatrics come in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it comes in. Like with what you said, is very theatrical remark.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [Laughing] If you say so.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would say so. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: *Now* tell me why we don't exist. [Laughter] *Tell* me why we don't exist. I have this belief that I exist; it's very real. [Laughter] And when you tell me that I don't it really upsets me, I get very upset. [Laughter] I get very frightened, and it really-- it gives me a stomachache. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's it. I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What's it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you are threatened, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Very threatened.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It's a terribly threatening idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you really do exist, you shouldn't be threatened. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, I'm threatened because you're supposed to know something that I don't know. And if you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --that we don't exist, maybe, you know, maybe [laughing] you're right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean you're the one that knows. As far as I'm concerned--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --I exist!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But there's some possibilities. That you came here, took trouble to come here, are expressions of your nonexistence. And listening to me, my crap [laughter] is expressions of nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And then you get upset, frightened. That's expressions of nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Because I don't understand it. It's very hard to understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. There's nothing to-- nobody to understand, therefore you can't understand. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Okay, I'll just-- I'll-- I\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't mean to say that you-- SPEAKER9: That's the despair that you write about. That's the point of the despair, when you just-- nobody knows anything more than you, and this is just the way it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure about that. [Laughter] Now you're making it very secure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I don't mean you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --secure, secure thing by saying that. SPEAKER9: I don't mean you specifically.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But I mean us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah, sure, sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean in your own mind, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But still, you're making yourself comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Uncomfortable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Even talking about that particular issue, is not quite...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well it's very scary, I admit it. I'm not afraid to admit that it's scary. It is scary. It is scary. It's very scary to think you don't exist. What the hell is going on? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck madam. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I have good luck.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With my compliment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2066.0,2415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: In the abhidharma studies and in the writings of Dhiravamsa, and several other places, it seems to be indicated that the object of shamatha practice is the development of jhana states. And that without the development of those states it's very difficult to go on to the analytical processes involved in vipashyana. But you always caution us not to think in terms of concentration or absorption, but to start right out with more of a panoramic awareness and mindfulness. And I'm wondering, is this two different approaches that both work, or is this something that will have to come eventually?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If I might be as bold to say, this approach is superior. To the level that when we are talking about jhana states, we are still looking for reassurance -- that you can experience bliss of jhana state -- before you get into the precision. And I think it's partly because the way I present this, what I have learned myself. That my teachers have trusted me that I'm an intelligent person, smart kid, whatever [laughter], you know, and I can handle myself, if they present that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd at the same time that I feel that related with American audience, everybody-- every one of people have done some kind of homework or other, mostly very painfully. And they have some ground that such things could be communicated very freely to them, the same way as what I've gone through myself. So I have enormous trust in the audience at this point. People *can* understand the whole basic training, of coming to the such conclusions like this. So from that point of view that there's no need to-- for them to reassure that there is jhana state exist, so therefore you feel that something, everything is true after all. It's not necessary, that approach is not necessary. And you don't have to *prove*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, you could approach your shamatha level two ways: trying to prove that spiritual path does exist, or trying to prove that there's possibilities that you could work with it. So we are taking the second stand -- not trying to prove that there is spiritual path does exist. And you can get jhana states level, which is a pleasurable state, and you don't have to get in that particularly, which is seem to be waste of time. Since everybody is here already, and they proved *themselves* something, maybe negatively, what's wrong with life, looking for the what's right and what might be right with life. Any case that people have done their homework already. So jhana state is unnecessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd basically it's be called-- jhana state is referred as the common path, which is shared by both Hindus and Buddhists, which is to say that it is applicable. If anybody is get into religious trip, either theistic or nontheistic, that before they become a religious person they should be re-insured. It's insurance policy; that religious trip does give you some thing to experience, to begin with. Which in this case we don't have to do it particularly. And I think we are more educated than that, and nobody's here a stupid peasant. Everybody is *somewhat* intelligent person. Every one of you know how to sign your names. So I think we are approaching the different level of sophistication this point. That seem to be the basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Then as one proceeds along the path, through the yanas, even at the level of the six yogas of Naropa and tantric yoga, there is no need to use this tool of jhana states?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then once you begin to relate with vipashyana level onward, that's the uncommon. It's not a common path anymore. You are getting into enlightenment area, enlightenment territory, rather than the realm of godhead territory. So, jhana states is unnecessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's the same as that people in this country have gone through taking LSD. That they begin to realize their life has something more subtler than you expected. And you feel that something happens underneath. That people took LSD, and they feel very special. That there is something behind all this, there is something much more subtler than this. Which is exactly same thing as jhana state it provides; that life is not all that cheap, but it has subtleties. And in order to get into vajrayana we don't keep on taking LSD particularly, which is obsolete from that point of view. That was just an opener, and you were exposed to different approach to seeing your life in a different angle, rather than you usually see. So in fact taking LSD could be said an instant jhana state. Which is much neater in a way, and maybe we should call it jhana pills. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2415.0,2809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It seems to me that in terms of the work we're trying to do, the hardest thing of all is to simply do the job and nothing else. In a way meditation is a little easier than just, as you always say, washing the dishes -- period. But what-- if this is the only way to just do the thing, and not entertain your mind with ideas about it or anything else, why do we find this *so* difficult? We seem to be very afraid to just do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because of it. Because *of* it. Because of *it*. Difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Because it's difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But are we afraid that if we don't notice ourselves just doing the work, we only do it, then we lose ourselves. And is this the basic fear that we are afraid to lose ourselves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's basically, the gentleman here, someone here--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And can you overcome this fear so that you can finally just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, no no no. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No, I didn't mean can you overcome it, [laughter] but I meant-- [laughter] I meant does meditation help make it possible to just do the non-meditation job?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no other way. People have been experimenting all *kinds* of ways, for 2,500 years, and-- actually 2,570 years [laughter], to be precise. People been doing that for long time. And here we are. And there's no other way, I'm afraid. And this seem to be the best that people have done so. That people didn't keep their experience to themselves. They passed it on, anything necessary. And I think the only way is to sit, sit, *and* sit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2809.0,2953.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I'm interested in just the point where you are self-conscious in mindfulness, in shamatha, and what the difference is between becoming panoramically aware, at that point. And also, does it happen in flips and it happen in flashes at first? And...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you trying to find out? *Really*? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well trying to classify my experience more. When it's shamatha, and when it's vipashyana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't see any particular problems. That when you experience shamatha -- very literal, very direct, concise, and precise. And when you experience shamatha-- I mean vipashyana level, then you experience things are begin to expand. And your sense of awareness, sense of mindfulness, becomes more grown up level. That you have simultaneous, multiple awareness taking place to once. That is possible. So, it works and it has been done so in the past, and we are doing it. And [laughing] I mean it's very simple; it's just like switching light switch. And there's no problem particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think the idea is that there are side effects obviously. The actual thing what you do is no problem at all; it's very simple, very easy. But side effects is that, \"What is this about to be? What is this should happen?\" And all kinds of things, you know. Which is unnecessary garbage. And it's like shaving off your face. That every day you shave off unnecessary little pieces of hair, by meditating. So shave every day. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2953.0,3143.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In the period of sleeping, you know, a lot of stuff goes on in terms of dreams. How do you deal-- how do you recommend treating that material in an awareness practice or mindfulness practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no-- until the yogas of dream of Naropa experiences develop, there's no way, there's nobody has particularly told anything how to handle with the dream state particularly. But the closest one is the expressions of the three marks of existence: that you don't exist, that life is suffering. What's the third one?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Impermanence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Thank you, impermanence. [Laughter] Okay! Three marks of existence takes place. [Laughter] So this so-called wake hours are also a dream, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So in some sense you are mindful of it, or you recall your dream--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --but you don't treat it in any special way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just dream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3143.0,3222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93898/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, talking about dream, I think we have to eat and dream. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3222.0,3221.93244"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740909VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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Yeah.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2193.99,2196.405"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Except meditating.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=2196.405,2200.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Well, why isn't\nmeditating doing 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impermanence.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3188.36,3192.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay! Three marks\nof existence takes place.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3192.92,3198.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this so-called wake hours\nare also a dream,\nat the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3198.26,3210.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: So in some sense\nyou are mindful of it,\nor you recall your dream--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3210.11,3214.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3214.42,3215.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: --but you don't\ntreat it in any special way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3215.62,3218.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just dream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3218.63,3222.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, talking\nabout dream,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3222.18,3223.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we have\nto eat and dream.\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203#t=3223.5,3229.33"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170322/file/309203/transcript/93899/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/093/899/original/19740909VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1779234437","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/093/899/original/19740909VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1779234437"}]}]}]}