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Host Charlie and guest host Glen Rogers talk with Trungpa Rinpoche about how Buddhism fits in Western culture, his background, his books, meditation, how Christianity compares to Buddhism, whether meditation is likely to be appreciated by Western mainstream culture, spiritual materialism, and what a guru really is."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jan 22 2022 to Feb 26 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Jessyca Goldstein\nFinal Proof: Lynn Friedman\nOther Contributors: Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["An engaging community radio interview on KPFT Houston to publicize Chogyam Trungpa's talk that evening at the University of Houston. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, radio interview on KPFT Houston given on January 21st, 1974. This is a CTI custom remaster made January 2022.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=0.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: It's Charlie at KPFT and our KPFT spiritual quest continues ever deliberately onward. And we're happy to have in our studio today Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche who is here tonight to speak at the University of Houston concerning Tibetan Buddhism. And he's here with Henry Schaeffer and John Whittlesey, who is the director of the chapter here in Houston that Rinpoche has founded.\r\n\r\n\r\nGentlemen, good afternoon. You're going to be speaking tonight at the University of Houston about your life, or about Tibetan Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it basically about Tibetan Buddhism and what Tibetan Buddhism has to offer to this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=21.0,77.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: This is an Eastern approach in a Western society. What are the conflicts and differences, and how can Tibetan Buddhism be useful to a Western person?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's something more than purely between Eastern and Western approach that being different, but it is something that reawakening and a rethinking process that seem to be necessary. That any civilization and any tradition, any country, and throughout generations, there's need for redevelopment when existing situations become stagnant and confused. That particularly Buddhism has a lot to offer, and Buddhism has become already a part of American culture and tradition some time ago. And this seem to be continuation of that, rather than convert or re-changing the cultural situation, or introducing new fad as such. It seem to be this particular message that Buddhism had to give or has to offer to this country is somewhat universality, and people have already come to similar conclusions. There are lot of people in this country, self-existing Buddhists so to speak, unconsciously, and what my work consist is just to acknowledge that and bring about a basic sanity that need to develop in any materialistic country for that matter. You could say that materialism is not belongs to the West, it belongs to both East and West at the same time. So spiritual approach also belongs to both West and East simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: So you're seeking a greater integration between the East and the West.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With a certain amount of discipline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=77.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: You yourself, in your own background Rinpoche, are Tib-- came from Tibet. Could you fill us in a little on your background and what brought you to this country?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was an abbot of a series of monasteries in East Tibet. And when the Communist Chinese invasion took place in Tibet, that I fled from my country. And I went to India at the same time as His Holiness Dalai Lama's escaped. And from there I went to England and studied at the University of Oxford, and trying to study Western spiritual approach and culture and art and things like that. And when invitation from Boulder at the philosophy department, having read my book MEDITATION IN ACTION already, I decide to come and settle down in this country. And I arrived in this country in '70. And since then I've been working with a lot of American students. Lot of them are young people and quite a lot of people are also teachers and psychologist. And the students I have are seem to be mixed group of different spiritual disciplines. They have already practiced already. And I've been working with the students for three years now. And we have a center in Boulder, Colorado, meditation center, and a retreat center in Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=218.0,336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: And so meditation is one of the primary methods that you use, or it's a part of your training in these centers? Is this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the practice of meditation is absolutely necessary, particularly in this hustle and bustle of materialistic life that needs to slow down. And it needs to catch on its own search, instead of getting carried away by the speed that we're involved ourselves, which creates a certain amount of confusion and ignorance and insanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=336.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Do you find your own self caught up in this ignorance and insanity and bustle that we all are caught up in, to a certain extent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose I have been very fortunate from that point of view, that I have viewed that much goes on, what happens around myself being in this country, is I take it with humor. There is-- for me it is enormous learning process, and I appreciate what I've been able to learn from this. And I'm in fact precisely trying to relay that to my students, that taking too seriously and very aggressively instant becomes a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: So key, maintain a sense of humor throughout--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's one of the most important thing of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=380.0,432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: You are the author of books: BORN IN TIBET, MEDITATION IN ACTION, and CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM. This is a-- when did you-- are you still writing now, and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When I was in Oxford, I wrote the first book, BORN IN TIBET. It is autobiography of my life and my experience, and also my escape from Communist China, People Republic of China, from Tibet. And MEDITATION IN ACTION is written and published in England, and since then reproduced by the Shambhala Publications in Berkeley. And CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM is recent talks and transcription of my talks, which is very much to the point of that up-do-date kind of approach to spirituality and the Buddhist teachings, which is also being published by Shambhala Publications in Berkeley. And I'm process of working on another book called MYTH OF FREEDOM, which will be published by Penguin, at the metaphysical series.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=432.0,506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Do you see Americans as spiritually bankrupt, or do you see holes in Christian faith in this country? Is this the reason for your teaching? Or do you see us a fundamental similarity between these religions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think basically that America has a lot of things to offer. But problem seem to be is that-- one of the problems, one might say, is the self-righteousness of holding on to one particular territory, one particular approach. Which produces lot of dissatisfaction within our social and spiritual, economic I suppose as well. And it seems that people need to rediscover their background, and Buddhism provides enormous stepping stone for that. Plus Buddhism is not regarded as a religion, but it's a spiritual approach. So that you don't have to become necessarily as a Buddhist and regard the other traditions as being alien atheist or foreign approach at all. That Buddhism *includes* every approach that particularly that person is brought up in. And Christianity is concerned, that has become somewhat purely relying on the exterior form, but interior has been somewhat lost. That particularly practice of meditation in the contemplative traditions of Christianity has become completely overrun by relying on a format of the exterior. That has become the problem. And I think that per-- people need, not so much of converted into a new approach, and new ideas, such as like Buddhist ideas necessarily, but they need some kind of perspective as to step back and review their own past, review their own traditional cultural heritage. And from that point of view, Buddhism provide a lot of help. And at the same time that also enriches their own background, their own heritage, at the same time. And Christianity is close to Buddhism. And we could say that, historically, that Judaism is close to Hinduism, as a culture that is connected with a nation. And Buddhism is close to Christianity, which is-- came out of Hinduism, like Christianity was introduced and developed within the framework of Judaistic tradition. And so is like Christ and Buddha are similar kind of figure. And the non-cultural and revolutionary aspect of Buddhism is much closer to Hinduism-- I mean, to Christianity from that point of view. And it seems to be from that point of view it is highly workable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=506.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Are there differences, different types of Buddhism? Tibetan Buddhism, is this a particular denomination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, Buddhism is unorganized religion, even as church. You might see the Dalai Lama as head of the church, but not really. That he is simply figurehead in politically. And spiritually that he is just one of the student, one of the leaders of Buddhism. And Tibetan Buddhism particularly is seems to be a very rich situation because that, until the communist Chinese invasion of Tibet, that there was no persecution or no invasions from other nations, so they were able to maintain and able to receive the growth of Buddhism right from medieval times up to twentieth century. And... I wouldn't say there are such things really as Tibetan Buddhism as distinct differences between Catholicism and Protestant.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the Japanese tradition is also close to Tibetan tradition, and Chinese. And everybody meditates, everybody practices the basics of meditation development.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=716.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Glen Rogers is with us, and I think you also have a question for Rinpoche.\r\n\r\n\r\nGLEN ROGERS: Yes, I had a couple questions. One was: in your books and in your talks, you stress very much the importance of meditation as being... And to-- meditation, to a lot of people who aren't familiar with it, or even maybe some who are familiar with it, seems like a rather tedious process that they aren't willing to approach. And I think that this-- I wonder if this causes Buddhism, or this type of approach, to be something that is only-- can be appreciated by a very select kind of group of people. Making it more or less a kind of esoteric kind of religion, rather than one that has wider application.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very good point, actually. That meditation from Buddhist point of view is not so much of you're becoming monks and nuns and lock yourself in a monastery particularly, especially. But meditation is something that you could work with daily living situation constantly. And it has no mystical practice-- mystical slant towards it, particularly. It's could seeing-- it's question of seeing the reality as it is, and relate with your kitchen sink, your husband, your wife, your friends. And relate with the world, relating with your bank account, relating with the police. And every situation that we come up struggle, a problem, that we feel ourselves inadequate. And that inadequacy is based on fear of either losing your ground or else that you are extending yourself too thin so you can't keep track of yourself. And meditation practice is-- from that point of view is enriching oneself, enriching one's personality even. A sense of groundlessness in the positive way. That you don't have to defend your own ground, but you have ground already. So meditation practice brings kind of self-respectability from that point of view. And it has been discussed in my book, in MEDITATION IN ACTION, the various practices that connect with meditation in action, like generosity and patience and knowledge and energy and things like that. So it's question of returning to the world, rather than giving up the world. The meditation practice is another way of seeing that your world is workable world, rather than one has to choose something else other than what you are. And fundamentally realize that who you are, what you are. There is some basic confidence that develops within oneself by practicing meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=822.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nGLEN ROGERS: Also in your latest book, CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM, and in the talks that you had just given at the seminar in San Antonio, you talked a lot about spiritual materialism. What-- could you explain exactly what you mean by spiritual materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that has been very prominent part of American spiritual development recently, if you've been keeping track of what's happening in the country. As that there's enormous upsurge of seeking something new, something higher, something greater, expanding consciousness and everything that had developed in this country within a short period of time. People into drugs, trying to find out meaning of reality, people into yoga trying to find basic tranquility and harmony, and people into meditation practice trying to become super human being. And all these approaches trying to find something new, something better, has become the problem. That it turned into a supermarket, like buying the best brand in the supermarket, and that has become the problem. So it's not so much of America's *lack* of spiritual choices or spiritual messages and possibilities and potentialities, but Americans have so much of it. And therefore, whole thing becomes-- the practice of spirituality becomes into the marketplace. And that seems to be the problem, and some corruptions tend to take place. People might think themselves very pure and clean and good and high and enlightened people, but at the same time that whole approach is based on \"me becoming superman\" has become the problem. And there's no notion of giving and opening and cutting through that spiritual materialistic-- spiritual approach has developed-- has not developed, so that has become the problem. And it seem to be necessary to point that out. That just any old spiritual practice that you ever-- you might do, is not really the thing. But one has to become honest with oneself, one has to unveil oneself from the blind faith and use basic Western intelligent, scientific mind. That is the highest development that Western can only offer, is the scientific mind, and the critical mind, the intelligent mind that has developed. And you can also use that approach to spirituality as well. And the question is not-- don't just jump but look at critically at the beginning the spiritual disciplines, and find out from yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=1013.0,1198.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nGLEN ROGERS: You also mention the importance of the guru a lot. And it's very difficult for people often to find a guru, or find a person that they can follow, or even find out of this supermarket a particular path or method that appeals to them. How to choose a guru or a path or... could you offer some suggestions or ideas on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the question of a guru is, I think, basically misunderstood. That guru automatically brings the idea of somebody's dressed up in robes and holding flowers. And the disciples bowing profusely, and there's the smell of Indian incense permeating all over. It seem to be the real meaning of guru from Sanskrit word \"guru\", which means that \"he who could lead you through the true path.\" And in order to lead you through the true path, you have to become friends with your guru and yourself. So guru from this point of view is more of good friend, and so therefore it is be referred as \"spiritual friend,\" \"kalyanamitra,\" which means \"spiritual friend.\" That you can make friendship, develop friendship with this person. And you can tell everything, and he could tell you everything, and that you could work together as colleagues. That seem to be the basic point of a guru, is some kind of object of trust. That we lost trust in every aspect of our life, deficiency becomes more disappointing than trustworthy situation. So this particular situation of loneliness, that you have to have some good friend to talk to, that could relate with. So that seem to be the basic point of guru, rather than somebody who's going to save you as prophet of the age as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303#t=1198.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146098/file/269303/transcript/78143/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Henry Schaeffer, could you tell us where Rinpoche will be talking tonight again and how people can attend?\r\n\r\n\r\nHENRY SCHAEFFER: He'll be speaking tonight in the Pacific Room, University of...\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: In the University Center.\r\n\r\n\r\nHENRY SCHAEFFER: University Center of the University of Houston, at eight o'clock.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: And the subject--\r\n\r\n\r\nHENRY SCHAEFFER: He'll be speaking on Tibetan Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Mhmm. And we invite anyone who has further questions to contact us here at the radio station. Before Rinpoche gets away, Glen, do you have any further questions?\r\n\r\n\r\nGLEN ROGERS: Umm, no, not tonight. Anyone who wants to hear, I suggest they come over to the University, at the University Center, which is off of Cullen Boulevard.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED CHARLIE: Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure to have you here today. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is KPFT in Houston.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Music]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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