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When they are out of balance, you have stupid meditators or \"sterile scholars.\" Joining meditation and study is important in terms of fully participating in the world. Tells the story of King Ashoka of India who abandoned the caste system for Buddhist teachings, which allowed a fresh exchange of ideas. Meditation clarifies study and allows transmission of sanity. Gives recommendations of specific Buddhist texts in English to study.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 14 2022 to Apr 05 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout balancing meditation practice and study. When they are out of balance, you have stupid meditators or \"sterile scholars.\" Joining meditation and study is important in terms of fully participating in the world. Tells the story of King Ashoka of India who abandoned the caste system for Buddhist teachings, which allowed a fresh exchange of ideas. Meditation clarifies study and allows transmission of sanity. Gives recommendations of specific Buddhist texts in English to study.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Techniques of Mindfulness, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number seven, \"Study and Sitting\", held August 31st, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made, May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Seminar on Techniques of Mindfulness, Talk Seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question of awareness is also general awareness we are talking about, in terms of sitting practice and everyday life experience at the same time. So that meditation practice is regarded as like eating food, and intellectual understanding is regarded as like having exercises. So both situation have to come hand-in-hand, together. There has been a problem of attitude, that the practice is regarded as the and only way, by some people, but on the other hand the intellectual study is regarded as the and only thing to do. So there is a conflict. I suppose that partly because that people are into the realm of experiential -- whatever is known as nonverbal humanity or whatever -- are into experiencing, and it doesn't want to have anything to do with the intellect. And at the same time people in the intellectual world regard it as anything experiential is unhealthy for intellectual discovery. So there has been a big gap. That has been a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=26.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it is absolutely necessary for us to review that situation, not go along with already set up pattern that exist in our society, particularly in a spiritual trip societies of all kinds; that people regard it that \"one or the other.\" And a lot of people have dropped out of school, because they don't want to have anything to do with the intellectual side, and they want to \"experience\" -- whatever that is. Begins from taking acid trips, and getting into higher spiritual whatnot. [Laughter] So the consequently that we find, the good meditators are stupid [laughter], and good scholars are completely sterilized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=168.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those problems are actually very *real* problem, and by no means it's a fantasy. And talking about mindfulness practice that could be applicable to our life, is we are talking in terms of having a society, a setup, a livelihood of something: that we could actually live in this world and work with our money, our problems, our intelligence, and dealing with society; everything is workable. Rather than that you have joined a certain cult minority groups of some kind, and you are only happy when you are amongst your little world. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=263.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That historically, Buddha was a social revolutionary. That anybody who was converted into Buddhism, become his follower, have abandoned the system of caste that exist in India very strongly in those days. And he had developed new social system, not by planning, as such particularly, but natural evolution took place. There were great rulers and great merchants, great scholars, great artists, have joined his teachings of awareness-mindfulness. And they developed a Buddhist world, of some kind. And in fact in turn, the result was, particularly time of Ashoka, King of Ashoka, Emperor of Ashoka, of India. That there were greater artists than the early days. There were greater social people, political people, than early days. For the result that the particular career, it does-- did not belong to a certain particular class of people. If you're an incense maker for instance, that you're supposed to stick with your art, and you have developed your caste as a merchant, and you've become very good at incense maker but you have no ideas of anything else than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=316.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such pattern begin to change, begin to shift around, during the reign of Ashoka, and develop very inspiring. Like if you look at the sculptures that exist in the traditional, early Buddhist sculptures like Gandhara art and so forth, that those were *filled* with life. There's enormous power behind it -- not power behind it because that everything's incest, therefore there is a trick that developed, and therefore there's a power. But everything's *not* incest; that there's exchange between the philosophers and artists and the politicians and everything. So there was mingling of all things begin to take place, and there was enormous power behind the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=420.0,470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in other word what we are trying to say is that the meditators are meditators in their own choice, their own inspiration. But at the same time they should open their vision much greater, wider, than purely in a sense of security. That you have your things to do in everyday life, you do your little practice every day, and doesn't matter about rest of the world as long as there's roof and a square meal. And it requires a lot of thinking, and reviewing our lives. What is our role in society? Not so much as that you're going to run for president. That you'll become a great something or other. But how you can contribute, how *you* can contribute to society, inspire them to meditation, which requires a lot of work and effort and energies needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=470.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And particularly the intellectual world is extremely powerful and important. Traditionally when we talk about an intellect, we are not talking about just a-- becoming a bookworm, as such. But we are talking in terms of learn how to think, how to view one particular issue approaching from millions of different ways. And meditation is precisely the tool for that. And once one's state of mind has become open and clear, and one's state of mind become precise, and not distracted by other problems, you can see what you are doing. And because you can see what you're doing, therefore you can apply what you want to do. And because of that then you can also transmit such basic sanity to other people, at the same time. So it's a complete world rather than lopsided world, of the religious people alone. So it's-- we are talking about entire perspective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=553.0,637.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the question at this point is obviously important, is that some intellectual training is necessary. That doesn't necessarily mean to say that you should come to Naropa Institute [laughs; laughter], or go back to your college or whatever. But it's a basic attitude of willing to submit yourself to way of thinking that has evolved, intellectually. Intellectualization in this case is not so much of \"analyzing particularly, but intellectualization here is clearly seeing that your world is-- has different facets, that your world is not just one world. But your world consist of a lot of facets, a lot of aspects, a lot of tensions, and a lot of energies. That seeing them clearly, and studying the scriptures are also equally important. Not so much that one should memorize them, and one should learn to speak the party language as such, [laughter] particularly. But one begin to develop the style of thinking that had developed for 2,500 years of Buddhism; you begin to pick up the subtleties and learning information that been passed down. And up to this point it almost it perfected completely. So one can pick up those intelligence that people in the past have achieved and handed down, and you also in turn, tune in to that. And so in turn you can also contribute to that particular lineage, the intelligence through the lineage. So that seem to be one of the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=637.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as far as books are concerned, that we don't seem to have really good books on Buddhism, or *particularly* meditation. Although it is very difficult to read, for beginners, and difficult to comprehend, but best books that we have at this point in translated into the English language is Herbert Guenther's books. And he was-- he worked very hard, and he's well-meaning, and one have to be kind to his eccentricities of way of putting things. [laughter] But still is was a good attempt. And it may be complicated, long-winded. [laughter] But there are a lot of good things in it. And a lot of works that he did is completely trustworthy books, which consist of that his early work on abhidharma, Buddhist psychology, abhidharma. And then the tantric subjects that he has, THE TANTRIC VIEW OF LIFE, and Teachings and Life of Mila-- Naropa, [THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF NAROPA] and BUDDHIST PHILOSOPHY [IN] THEORY AND PRACTICE. And he's working on some more books on the subject of tantra. But his approach to tantra is not particularly tantric as such per se, but I think that gives you some kind of existentialist point of view to Buddhist way of looking at things, which is a good one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=761.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have some books written by people who are inspired into the teachings, such as like Nyanaponika Thera's book on THE HEART OF BUDDHIST MEDITATION, and there's essays been written by him on abhidharma. And there is a very good book written by someone called Mangalo who's an English bhikshu, monk, on THE PRACTICE OF RECOLLECTION, which is a little booklet, which is easy to read, published by The Buddhist Society in London.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=875.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would recommend highly of my *own* books. [Laughter; laughs] And those were geared to people like ourselves. And put a lot of energy and effort into it trying to perfect it, as much as one can. And also point out the problems of society and the problems of religiosity and spiritual materialism and everything. So, those books are not regarded as information piece particularly, but those books that I have written, have written, designed in a certain way that you could grow into them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=930.0,973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously, the life and teachings of Milarepa, HUNDRED THOUSAND SONGS OF MILAREPA, and TIBET'S GREAT YOGI by Evans-Wentz, which is not particularly exquisite but for lack of better choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=973.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in my next book... [laughs; laughter] Okay, entitled MYTH OF FREEDOM, which will be coming in the spring next year hopefully, published by Penguin. And which contains short talks, are polished and rewritten. And those particular-- that particular book is a design in a certain way that you can take your-- take into your bedroom, and read it before you go to sleep. Because each topic is short and concise [laughter] and-- or, if you would like, sit in the toilet. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1002.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think Herbert Guenther is working on some further translations of meditation texts, which hasn't come through yet, but he's working on that, which will be good. And Herbert Guenther and I have conducted a seminar together in California, and that has also been made into a book, and coming earlier. I think everything's been done now, and it's already with the publisher, Shambhala. It's entitled DAWN OF TANTRA. [laughs; laughter] Which doesn't particularly talk about tantra as such, but it's preparation of mind, on the approaching towards tantric aspect of Buddhism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1070.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I hope that basically what I'm trying to say is that, if you can get yourself into reading a little bit more, and studying and thinking more, that also will help your practice a great deal. In turn your study will be increased a great deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1121.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such as like Ramana Maharshi's books, are great to read, and they contain a lot of truth, so to speak. [Laughs; laughter] And Meister Eckhart, mystic, German mystic -- I'm sure you've heard of that -- and is very good to read. And also contains similar things we've been talking about in terms of basic development of practice of meditation. And if you're into-- looking more into a Christian context with the Buddhist context of practice of meditation, that there is the Philokalia, of the Greek Orthodox tradition, is a manual on meditation practice which is very good, and almost we could say it's Buddhistic in some sense. There's a lot of link between that contemplative traditions of the Eastern Orthodox Fathers' approach to Buddhism is very close, and could be workable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1138.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think point here is that since this is the last of this particular type of seminar, so the question is learning is very important, equally; one shouldn't abandon that at all. And practicing is equally important. It's like-- as I've mentioned earlier on, it's like eating food and having exercises, which is each equally necessary, and absolutely important.\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you have any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1206.0,1247.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are the books of Lama Govinda relevant or important to us generally?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't particularly recommend -- if I be as bold to state. They are informative, in fact maybe *too* informative, with a lot of other stuff put in it, at the same time. And it wasn't particularly written for practitioners as such; it's a kind of survey of... something or other. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1247.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I'd like to ask you a question about the question that Naga asked last night, and you answered it by saying when he felt that he was on the edge, that he should possibly push further and explore that territory. And I'm wondering, in shamatha practice it seems that the whole basis of shamatha practice is relating with just basic awareness, of maybe first glimpse of what's taking place. And I wonder if that's also part of it, to push the finger a little more into... your trip or whatever, and explore it that way. Or is it just enough to just see it, and let it go for the time being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it depends on the people actually; both are valid in some sense. Whereas if you're looking for security, and would like to push and so maybe you might discover some kind of security, then somehow it doesn't become workable, and it becomes a trip, in negative sense. But if there's any hesitation to explore the world, and want to be-- want to remain safe and secure, then probably it would be good to push oneself more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1286.0,1389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Since you've been talking somewhat about Buddhists being involved in the world, do you have any advice for those of us who are politically active as well as trying to follow the dharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's very difficult this point. I think the political setup that's developed in this country is already taking in its own course. Whether you have a new president or new something or other, but still that they are inheriting the past debts that been passed onto them. So you can't change the society drastically, particularly. But I think that will be good to develop some kind of political vision that doesn't become dogmatic and problematic particularly. And as soon as when you begin to make things into particular trips, that you are leftist or the rightist or the femininist or the masculininist or whatever [laughter] you have, then you are making yourself into a unfortunate nutshell.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't understand your use of the word \"trip\" very well apparently. I've heard it a lot since I've been here this week, that people are saying, \"Well, don't make a whole trip of this\" and \"don't get into this trip\" and so forth. And I'm not really sure I understand what it means.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's-- means -- I don't know the etymologically speaking but [laughter; laughs], it comes from taking LSD trip originally, maybe. And you're \"on trip.\" That you have a certain particular idea, which is very \"trippy,\" which is not very accurate, but you're full of ideas and full of opinions and full of concepts. \"That I am now vegetarian, and I dislike in associating with any meat eaters, you know, they are my enemy, they're unpure people, [laughter] you know. I'm pure,\" And such like, you know, there's all kinds of things. Or, \"he's a commie,\" you know. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1389.0,1557.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I think there was another point from one of the previous talks there was a little confusion about. You were talking about the idea that one thing happens at a time, that it seems to me that often it seems like a lot of things are going on at once. So, is this a result of not being perfectly mindful? And if mindfulness develops, do you come to a point where you see separate moments where there is in fact only one thing happening at a time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so yeah; that seem to be the problem. That you lost everything when you try to pinpoint on certain particular things. It's like the story of otter, I suppose it was, trying to catch fish. And has caught already one fish, and carrying in his mouth, and sees another fish and is trying to catch that, and he have to give up his mouth-- fish in the mouth, and the result is he lost both. And that's the kind of situation, that you are trying to grasp here and grasp there, and not able to relate with anything at all. So the practice of meditation is from that point of view, is to train you to be precise on the one particular thing, and then build things from that. That seem to be the very valuable training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1557.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: One of the problems that I've had, I'd like to hear you say something about, is the play between the intellect and practice. Sometimes, when I intellectualize on the basis of my own practice, I can see the things that I've read about in a book. And sometimes wonder whether I haven't seen them, because I've read about them. That is, that it's mere suggestion and not actuality. I wonder about the play between the two, between trying to verbalize and its power to suggest experience, as opposed to just the experience itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think-- yeah, I can understand that. It's a question of different way of studying intellectually. You can do it several ways: the one is you try to collect information, another one is trying to understand. So if you do it in the style that is collecting informations, you have so much chatter, mental chatter, that comes from the book, gets into your system, your head. And play it back in the form of a dream, in form of a nightmare, or the form of a daydream or whatever. Whereas if you trying to actually understand, which means that you are actually identifying yourself with what's been said in the book, scriptures. Identifying with you, that your personal experience, so there's less chatter and less informationary desires involved, so it becomes a very *personal* thing. So I think the way to develop intellect, in this case, is not question of collecting information, but identify with what's been said, and become a part of that particular experience that been described. So I don't see-- once you begin to do that there is no problem. That you are not particularly trusting yourself into the information, but more of experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1660.0,1805.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: As I understand it the mistake is that the mind holds itself as being a person, as being a continuous thing, when in fact the standing moment here now is not the same standing moment that when I first began this question. So what is it that is karmically continuous? What carries through from moment to moment if it is not this person, and each moment is full and complete in itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think the basic thing that continues is the discontinuity, which makes some continuity. It's like... you know anything else. That there is... there is a drip of water which is a continuous because of its dripping; each drip is separate from the next one, but that produce another one at the same time. That's the way the karmic situation is developing. So therefore it is possible; you can intercept those and change the course. That's why there's possibilities of transcending karma at the same time. If there's no gap, there's no possibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1805.0,1899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well how does-- can you relate that to the Hindu idea of whatever they call it, Brahman? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Brahma?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Brahman, I guess. The higher self that is continuous, it's eternal or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know whether they actually would go as far as to that. And if that's the case that you know Brahma has to be discontinuous one, which is there's a hole in the philosophy. That if you regard somebody as eternal, that that eternity is consist of impermanence, which is not particularly trustworthy. It becomes a paper tiger, in some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose the Hindu approach to eternity is something greater than that. It's there's the-- some basic continuity, which produces the karma. And karma is the action of Brahma, action of gods. That put out judgment, and computerized level. That if somebody did wrong they get punished, and there's that kind of continuity takes place. Which is same as that Christian tradition of believing in ego, of eternity; that you have created something eternal, therefore you think it is eternal, because you think so. So it's question is comes back to square one from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd according to Buddhist way of looking at things that nothing exist. Even the notion of enlightenment, it doesn't exist. And because of that there could be enlightenment. If enlightenment *does* exist then that's subject to decay, and death and corruption. And therefore, enlightenment doesn't exist, therefore it is -- if you'd like to call it eternal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So you'd say that... well, that's the difference then; they call it eternal because it does exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well eternal means it had to be exist in eternity. Is kind of cosmic insurance policy, you know. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=1899.0,2077.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yesterday, when you were talking about working, and the mental faculty focusing on what the person was doing in doing the work. And then mindfulness, and that creating a pressure. And then mindfulness not being more pressure but rather alleviating that pressure. Could you say something more about how that works?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think I should say too much of that. And you should try and find out what it's all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=2077.0,2116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: The other day when you were talking about the mindfulness of mind practice, and you were saying it was noticing, sort of, \"I hear. I sit. I feel. I feel it's hot.\" Is that supposed to be something that we do in our meditation? You know that practice of kind of noting in each moment, each--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so. It's so, making everything into a thought formation, rather than some things are serious and some things not serious. And if you have just thought about your breakfast, your dinner, you regard that as a thought. But if you have a thought about your enemy, and your heavy-handed lover, then you regard it as *not* thought but as \"my *emotion*, and I couldn't control that.\" That's become a problem. So we begin to label as emotion rather than thought, so there's a big problem. So the question here is that regard everything including emotion -- so-called emotion -- as part of thinking process, rather than anything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean, do you go through that process of noting, the processes--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: In and out through the breathing, or is that a practice different than the breathing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that goes with the breathing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=2116.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I was wondering, before earlier in the seminar when you talked about everything being mind, there seemed to be a lot of confusion, you know, among people's interpretation of that. And I was wondering if you were referring to just a simple straightforward that everything was created by mind in the sense the tent was obviously needed a mind to be put up and needed a mind to be put together? Or, you know, like more yogachara, that it's all your mind, that it's-- the substance of the tent is your mind? Which of those were you [laughter] referring to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think I suppose we are talking in terms in yogacharan language, but it's more experiential rather than purely theory. That things are made out of mind; made *with* mind, made *out* of mind. Which simplifies a lot of problems. And create further problems, no doubt. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=2213.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How does that one-pointedness, being in one moment at a time, or at one thought at a time, relate to panoramic awareness? And how does it relate to the Western idea of the subconscious, that lots of things are going on in your mind that you're not aware of and that are really influencing your actions and your thoughts, all the time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think basically that one-pointed mind is the seed for panoramic awareness. Is that the panorama is consist of a lot of little dots; otherwise you can't have aerial view, of the whole thing. And there's no particular relationship with that, and the so-called \"subconscious mind,\" that is kind of inherently planted in your head, and is slowly coming out each time when you're into trouble. And somehow that from Buddhist point of view, the sort of Freudian approach to experience of life, the consequence of life, somehow it doesn't work. And we can't say that we are in this tent because we want to get back to womb. [Laughter; laughs] But because we came here, therefore tent is happens to be here, and with our own personal interests we got here, not because we're interested in the womb, particularly. And it's very much of consequential, that everything has its own accident took place. And things you are getting into, habitual pattern that led you to do certain things, are result of not being aware of what you are being at that point. You're fascinated by something else, rather than you be led to it, helplessly, particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I mean from Buddhist way of looking at things, that there's still enormous possibilities, that you can do something about your life. That you don't have do undo your past in order to straighten out your present, particularly. And that seem to be the one of the basic point. And in order to straighten your present, your-- sees clearly, is that you can detect them: this, this, this, this. Look at them, see them. And that creates further charity. That nothing is hidden, particularly; everything is obvious, on the spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=2283.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87154/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, we-- think we should end our seminar. Don't you think so? You have to go back home and so forth. [Laughs] Well, I hope we haven't wasted our effort and energy here. And it is absolutely important, when you go away, stay here, whatever you might be doing, it is very important try to focus your life situation into practice and learning at the same time. But practice creates kind of reference point, and your basic framework or reference point, that your life is governed by sitting practice of some kind. You know, could be ten minutes or could be two hours or three hours a day. Depends on how much situation permit. But one should cut through one's laziness and excuses of that certain situation might come up.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd hopefully that you regard, once you come here -- or since you come here and you are with us here, and hopefully this could be started as a beginning point of your practice. And hopefully you're able to work on that. There's more to understand, there's more to learn, there's tons and tons and miles and miles of things to know. But everything can only happen if you sit, properly. If you actually be with yourself; otherwise you can't know anything, because you're miles away when you're about to learn. So that you have to do your homework, before we embark on any further things. If there's any ambitious person exists here. And the only point that I can raise is that please do not chicken out [laughter], and stick with it, and go along with practice and stay with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then when situation will arise, that you feel you need another help, further help, or more help, whatever it is, that could be possible, at the level that your development takes place. But on the whole that development is not regarded as achievement, but as ongoing process. That it is developing oneself into adulthood, from the point of view of basic sanity. So I hope you make a good job out of this seminar, and hopefully that you haven't wasted your time, and we haven't waste our time. And on behalf of the community of Tail of the Tiger, myself, and meditators at large in this country [laughter], I would like to thank you taking personal interest in coming up to this seminar, which has been very good. You have been very patient audience. Thank you. \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=2472.0,2666.1355"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740831VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=6.34,8.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number seven,\n\"Study and Sitting\",\nheld August 31st, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=8.1,14.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP\ndigital remaster made, May 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=14.41,19.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Seminar\non Techniques\nof Mindfulness, Talk Seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708#t=19.18,26.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163568/file/297708/transcript/87155/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question\nof awareness\nis also general 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