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Analogy of Star of Bethlehem, a spark of luminosity far away. There is hope of enlightenment, a final hope that comes with the recognition of our confusion. Reference point of a spiritual friend, kalyanamitra, necessary on the path; relating to person who has taken that journey to enlightenment. We need personal relationship with someone who knows how to bring the dharma into the visible world, out of the realm of myth.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Path is the Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE PATH IS THE GOAL: Part One: Chapter 3: The Star of Bethlehem\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-path-is-the-goal-1146.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2 (in contained book THE PATH IS THE GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 23 2024 to Dec 21 2024 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Blaire Martin, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R6"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIn the context of awareness, \"being\" as unconditional being, without any conditions of being \"something.\" As beginners, our approach to unconditionality involves some conditionality, while directing ourselves toward unconditionality. Analogy of Star of Bethlehem, a spark of luminosity far away. There is hope of enlightenment, a final hope that comes with the recognition of our confusion. Reference point of a spiritual friend, kalyanamitra, necessary on the path; relating to person who has taken that journey to enlightenment. We need personal relationship with someone who knows how to bring the dharma into the visible world, out of the realm of myth.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mindfulness and Awareness, held in New York, New York, at an unknown location. This is talk number three, March 17th, 1974.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made August 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Mindfulness and Awareness, held in New York City, March 15th through 17th, 1974. This will be the third talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=0.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the question of awareness and being, we have to look into the notion of being, this point. There is-- or there are all kinds of approaches towards notion of being: being good, being bad, being sensible, being crazy. Beatitude. All kinds of notions of being. But when we talk about awareness and being, it is unconditional being. You just *be*, without any conditions of being what, or whatever may be. Unconditional way of being. That seems to play very important part in the question of being. Unconditional being, which is a state of mind which involved with a certain sense of attitude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=43.0,190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you might say, is that conditional mind that if you're involved with attitude? Shouldn't we say that is also attitude, so therefore we couldn't find unconditional being? True. Even unconditional being requires attitude. In order to unconditional-- in order to develop unconditional level, we have to develop some condition as to that we could develop unconditionality. We cannot begin perfectly at the beginning -- otherwise it cease to become beginning and become the end. It's achievement. So reason why we are referring all this process is the beginner's level, is the level of clumsiness and level of messiness, unstructured, confused, and so forth -- level of confusion, the messiness, untidiness, and constant dichotomy. And constant reference point. But at least that we are approaching our directions towards unconditional being. Gazing at the Star of Bethlehem in the horizon which is far away, far, far away. But there is still hope of a spark of luminosity is there. And land may be dark, sky may be gray and black, it might be chilly, cold, uncomfortable, tired, restless, but nevertheless, that Star of Bethlehem is over there. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=190.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Human beings hope. The final hope that human beings could ever be hopeful is enlightenment. Star of Bethlehem in the horizon. And skillful means that developed by the buddhas and tathagatas throughout the ages and the great teachers have developed, and their approach is that enlightenment is like a carrot out front of a donkey, that there is a carrot in thousands of miles away shining, and you have to walk and walk and walk and you go and get it. Donkey doesn't have the carrot at the time, at this point in the beginner's level, but we had to be inspired that far-gone inspiration something's taking place right over there at the horizon, and big space, and huge, open, desert landscape. [Laughs] Coming back to the question, apart from the poetry, [laughter; laughs] the question is, we need hope. [Laughter] Powerful hope of attaining enlightenment in this lifetime. That hope is based on the notion of relating with the constant chatter that goes in our mind, ups and downs of all kinds of emotional disturbances that we experience, constant ongoing process that takes place within our state of being. We need a reference point to that. Plays-- hope plays-- or hope is categorized into two types of situations: that hope for the aspiration is necessary; that hope of gaining one's power is another thing. So as far as the hope of aspiration is concerned, that students must need to relate with a \"spiritual friend\", \"kalyanamitra\", \"ge-we shenyen.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=379.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spiritual friend is very important. That you cannot start even right at the beginning of the beginning without practicing-- I mean without learning, relating with a person who had done that particular journey, took that particular journey, had achieved that particular result, and enlightened. And it is necessary to have that kind of reference point, necessary to have a lineage holder, a craftsman. That you have to have the informations, you have to gather the information from the handicrafts -- how the knowledge is been passed down, passed on -- and you have to relate with somebody who knows how to put the dharma into a visible world, rather than myth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=638.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That spiritual friend, kalyanamitra, is a person who avoids speculative attitude towards the teaching, or mythical, but brings about in reality -- he done it, you can do it. Possible and visible, obvious. It is necessary to have that kind of relationship. And the relationship could begin from purely the fame of a certain spiritual friend, or guru for that matter, who had reputed to have power over others' confusion. That confusion does not exist when you meet certain guru. You could follow by faith, or else you get a personal experience that meeting such person is very powerful and you actually experienced the presence of such person, spiritual friend. You have experience your own basic sanity, sense of solidness, sense of reality is actually taking place that level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=709.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the choice is two: that either one should become blind-faith-like person, just believes and worships without logic, or else that person who doesn't believe -- extremely skeptical, highly opinionated, full of one's own philosophies of all kinds -- could still meet certain spiritual friend in eye-level situation, explore how he is, why he is, what level of spiritual operation that he is performing. That doesn't mean to say that spiritual friend should be levitating [laughter] three inches above your level or constantly emanating sparks of enlightenment in a form of firework. [Laughs] Personal relationship is very important. Traditionally the guru is referred as like the sun shining upon the earth -- that every aspect of this earth is-- every petal of flower, every leaf, every grass that grows is relate to the sun according to the four seasons. That each flower on this earth has personal relationship to the sun, although the sun does not particularly, personally direct its attention to biased level, actually shine more to the rosebush opposed to poppy, or anything like that. But depends on how receptive whole process is, that much openness takes place at that level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=806.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So personal openness is very important rather than purely by living on faith. Faith, blind or intelligent. Open faith could be intelligent, that willing to include one's own confusion and one's own understanding at the same time. And blind faith is purely going by at the level of facts and figures, quick results, fame, reputation, and so forth. It is saying the same thing that \"you should read this book because this book is the bestseller and five million copies been sold, therefore it must be good.\" It is possible that five million stupid people have bought it and read it and so on. [Laughter] And that's another reference point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=969.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it is very much necessary, to follow on the spiritual path, to have a sense of personal relationship with a teacher, kalyanamitra, ge-we shenyen, is very important, necessary. The ge-we shenyen, or spiritual friend, presents you with a Star of Bethlehem, takes you out into [ed: out of] your cozy home, and may be briskly cold, biting cold, and \"Shall we put our coat on? Let's just walk out and take a look what's happening in the universe.\" And cold winter night, that your spiritual friend decide to take you out on a walk: \"Put our boots. Don't punish yourself, coat, warm coat -- if you like, take a cigar along with you. [Laughter] Now let us take a walk, step out our mud house or plastic house or whatever we are living in.\" And we walk around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1080.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the beginning the question is that \"watch doorstep when you going to get out, it's rather dark outside, you have to-- your eye had to be adjusted to the darkness outside and the light inside. Just, let's step out, be careful your step. And don't trod on the dog shit [laughter] that exists outside.\" Very practical, very careful. Walk out, take a walk. In the cold winter night you could hear the every grass stalk is crumbling under your feet with the juice on them. Once we have made relationship with our ground, your visual sight is adjusted to that kind of night light. Maybe it is a new moon day without any moon, and stars are very bright. Occasional clouds hanging in the corners of the horizon, but *there* is the Star of Bethlehem, shining, shivering because of the cold weather. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1181.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spiritual friend's role is to take you out to walk, look at the Star of Bethlehem. \"Take a look. And we are going to go out there, our trip begins tomorrow. Maybe we should walk out there, drive out there, fly, take a train, to the star,\" whatever. That a person then get a personal experience which is mutual to himself and the spiritual friend at the same time. So you have a goal, idea, that you want to get into the Star of Bethlehem. Enlightenment is *real* experience that point, no myth. It's not optical illusion at all, that there *is* Star of Bethlehem out there, shining. And it is no conmanship at all. It's a real experience, very real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1288.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So enlightenment becomes very real. And according to the Zen tradition, it is known as the satori experience, the meeting of the two mind, whatever -- that a person has shown certain way how to handle himself, herself, whatever, emotions, disciplines of all kinds. But the point is to make enlightenment real rather than purely myth. \"It might work, let's take a chance\" doesn't somehow become practical enough. We've been taking a chance for a long, long time, since we involved in the circle of a samsara. We thought we are going to be happy one day by striving, by speeding, by trying to grasp, by trying to create a comfortable nest. We have all kinds of guesswork that we have done, and we been hoping still, we never give up hope, and somehow[laughing] that actually didn't work. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1379.0,1461.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It wasn't brilliant scheme, shall we say. It's rather dumb and stupid one, in fact. We can't blame historians, or the philosophers, or the scientist, particularly at all, the creator of this universe, particularly. We cannot blame ourselves even. It happened by accident, by karmic chain reactions. That let us not take a vengeful attitude to anybody -- \"My mother messed my life, my father messed up my life.\" Those blames and pathetic gestures are becoming old hat and unreasonable. So, back to square one. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1461.0,1540.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meet spiritual friend who shows you the Star of Bethlehem, enlightenment, and then start the journey immediately. The question of being is that, having had mutual experience with your spiritual friend and yourself together, that there is something is taking place. That's the question of being -- whether that question of being is created artificially or else very naturally, organically, whatever, doesn't really matter. It is experience already, it *is *experience in any case. Let us not question the validity of metaphysical point of view, philosophically, scientifically, domestically. We don't have to be-- we don't trying to make ourself sure that we are signing our name on the dotted line in insurance policy, particularly. And something more than that is this is not business transaction, it is personal experience. A child whose-- mother who bore a child, if child is starving, you cannot blame your child, your infant, that \"it is because you didn't bring any money along with you as you were born.\" That would be absurd. \"We are starving because you didn't bring any money along with you.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1540.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a karmic situation that takes place throughout the whole thing. That we are confused, utterly, as far as we know we are confused -- even we don't know even *that* sometimes, but we are confused in any case. Trying to find who to blame our confusion is further act of confusion -- that takes us away from practice, actual discipline of meditative training, takes us away from it. So the question boils down, nobody fucked up our life really, actually, properly speaking. [Laughter] The only thing that fucked up our life is because we feel somebody did pull trick on us, or you pulled trick on yourself. And at a matter of fact, there is no-- not even you exist, you don't exist at all. So nobody's pulling trick on anybody. [Laughs; laughter] Even you don't exist, you are just myth, mythical truth. Within that understanding of the mythical truth that we practice meditation, we sit at the level of myth of freedom. That might be a myth, the Star of Bethlehem may be a myth, but we have seen it, we have experienced it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1656.0,1815.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So need enormous discipline, committing oneself to a spiritual friend, and committing oneself because of spiritual friend to oneself at the same time. And sitting practice provide enormous help. You can't even begin to call yourself a follower of buddhadharma if there is no basic training of mind is involved. In order to perceive Buddha and dharma, one has to have devotion; in order to have devotion, one has to train to develop devotion -- which may be very clumsy at the beginning but it is necessary. So starting from the hinayana practice of discipline, satipatthana and vipashyana practice is extremely important -- and very powerful and absolutely necessary, provided if you want to follow the path properly, thoroughly, and completely. Enlightenment is very complete, total. There's no such thing as fake enlightenment. It's real experience. It's real life.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that if you like to ask some questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1815.0,1922.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said that even we don't exist--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Even what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That even we don't exist, that we're a myth. Is the enlightenment also a myth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not we -- you. [Laughter] Or I. Not we. We don't exist. You don't exist. I don't exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Does the enlightenment exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRINGPA RINPOCHE: Not even enlightenment exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Does devotion exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Does devotion exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Devotion is knowing that you don't exist, is the information that someone tells you, \"You don't exist.\" And you experience that you-- \"that's true, I don't exist.\" That's the act of devotion. Devotion is language, media, to communicate that message. Devotion act as the like mailman who brings your mail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1922.0,1994.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You talk about the personal experience with a teacher, enlightenment experience. The-- but what I understand what you said about enlightenment is that it's not an experience. So please, what's happening at that moment? Is it really enlightenment or still an experience? Is there still somebody there experiencing something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Enlightenment is no longer regarded as experience, because experience means, experience is like a blotting paper who-- which absorbs the ink. That is, blotting paper is having a good experience by absorbing the ink, which requires two entities to work together. But in this case, it is not experience from that point of view. It is total. The notion of razor blade cutting itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If it was total at that moment, why would it end, in other words?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't end.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It comes and goes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't end, that's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Enlightenment experience is eternal. It doesn't end. I mean that's the whole point of liberation -- once you are liberated it is forever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So the experience with a spiritual friend is just-- what is it, just a glimpse of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's glimpse of that freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And if you didn't-- if you went to see your spiritual friend and wanted to surrender your ego to him and didn't have a glimpse, was that because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're still wrapped up in the notion of freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Still what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wrapped up in the notion of freedom. The whole thing seem to be very simple, from that level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=1994.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It doesn't really begin either, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The fact-- the experience, since it's not experience. I mean you say, talking like as if it doesn't end, it's because it doesn't begin.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that in itself is a beginning. Because it doesn't end, it doesn't begin, and it *is.*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2121.0,2156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If it does not exist, why bother?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If I do not exist and enlightenment does not exist, then why bother trying to-- I don't have the right words. Why bother?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that is the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Why have-- why begin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- sixty-dollar question. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yesterday it was sixty-five. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] It's gone down. [Laughter; laughs] Everybody's asking that, [laughter] \"Why bother?\" But in order to find why bother, you have to find the why not. That hasn't been solved, that problem hasn't been solved. As long as there are the twelve nidana exist, the twelve chain reactions of karmic cycle exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2156.0,2227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In some of the literature that I've read, Tibetan translation, one phrase that really stuck in my mind was \"The attainment of human birth is a mighty opportunity that is not to be frittered away.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not to be what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Frittered away.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Not to be frittered away. Fiddled away. [Laughter] Could you comment on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say? [Laughter] What do I think about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, in light of what had just been said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: About like why--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nonexistence?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In terms of why bother?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Just we'd like you to comment on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why bother? I see. Well, it's very simple. That this life is very valuable, human birth is very important, that you have a chance to practice, chance to learn the truth. And still the question of why bother is cropping back again and again. That is actually the path is consist of: \"Who am I, what am I? What is this, what isn't this?\" All the time until enlightenment is actually achieved. The question is never been answered why bother? That becomes one of the mantras of the path, \"Why bother?\" [laughter] which goes on all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2227.0,2345.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said that enlightenment was a real experience, and you also said that enlightenment doesn't exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because it doesn't exist, therefore it's real. When something exist personally, experientially, and conditionally, that is become a mirage and fake. And lot of people might find experience that you have in Disneyland is more real than having experience in your city life. The mirage is seem to be more real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2345.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, it's like a mirror.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You think the mirror is real.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are real in the mirror.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. [Laughs] But still is the mirror's interpretation of you. And therefore it doesn't exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So when you say enlightenment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But nonexistence is most valid of all. It's the highest existence is the nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So enlightenment as a real experience is just a mirror?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More than mirror -- super mirror. [Laughter] That's why in traditionally in tantric language it is called mirrorlike wisdom. Real experience of nonexistence, cutting through all kinds of conceptualizations and everything, experience of vajralike samadhi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2396.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What does making friends with yourself mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you are very rich, resourceful, and there are all kinds of working bases exist in you. That you don't have to reform yourself or abandon yourself, but work with yourself, your passion, aggression, ignorance, and everything is workable, is part of the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2454.0,2485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [UNCLEAR: Aware of?] yourself, selves, oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no self.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: There's no self. So, you're working with thought processes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no thought. There *is.* Thoughts are interpretations of what is -- spokesmen of nonexistence subject. The clouds exist because sky exist. Sky exist because there is light, which shows us blue sky, but once we get out to the outer space, you don't even see blue sky, you don't even see clouds anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But there still is blotting paper and ink and clouds and blue sky.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the form of transitoriness, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Only in the form of transitoriness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I mean, is that-- then how does that relate to the experience of oneness and duality in tantra, in vajrayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We haven't talked about that [UNCLEAR: detail?] yet. We have to extend our seminar for another three months. of our mental activities that happens all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2485.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Could you say something about livelihood and effort as--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Louder!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Could you say something about livelihood and effort as foundations of mindfulness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well effort and livelihood are expression of our mental activities that happens all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Was that in relation to sitting practice that-- \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as everyday life practice, meditation in action, as well. That-- in other word, any raw material there is, there might be, is constantly workable, and that is the object of trodding on the spiritual path, following dharma. You can't follow dharma if you don't have any fuels to work with, any food to nourish your journey. That those things goes on in your life is the food for your journey, nourishment, which makes you walk on the spiritual path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2570.0,2647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How does fascination-- does it lead to inspiration and then to enlightenment? Or are they related?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, fascination, starting point. And then inspiration and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2647.0,2659.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: If there's no self, how then do we really make friends with ourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since there is no self, therefore there is no threat. You are not threatened by anything, because you don't exist, therefore the world is a bank of compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So [UNCLEAR: anything?] is all right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, shall we say. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2659.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You talked about-- you said hope is very necessary but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You said hope--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --is very necessary. But the more hope I have, the less I'm able to breathe, you know. It's like, if I have a lot of hope I can't even move, because I'm so afraid I won't, you know, I'm so concentrated on getting something. And it seems only when I give up hope, just for a minute, that I have any choice or any room. And yet you say hope is very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well giving up hope is also activities of hope, of final encouragement. That you are encouraged to take that particular path of hopelessness. It's more of an encouragement.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It comes out of it, you mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2698.0,2750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: This concerns the question of the koan, \"What is the sound of one hand clapping?\" And I've heard given as an answer, \"The sound of one hand clapping is the sound of one hand clapping.\" And I just wonder if that's an example of spiritual materialism, that particular answer, or if there is indeed an answer to that koan.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you try to give any answers, obviously that's going to be nature of spiritual materialism. The purpose of a koan is not to find out answer for it but experience the message, and the sound of one hand clap *is*, I suppose.[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2750.0,2793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Does energy exist or love exist with selflessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Selflessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Does energy exist, or love, if there is no ego or self, or is that just a myth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so. Better, better to exist. But maybe it doesn't exist, but it *is* -- love *is*, energy *is*, rather than exist. That kind of difference, same level. And if *you* don't exist, you *are*. If the energy doesn't exist, energy *is*. If love doesn't exist, love *is.*\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: When you talk about something being self-existing, is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not even self-existing, not at all. That is kind of yogacharan philosophy. But the level what we are talking about is madhyamaka tradition with a tinge of tantra in it. [Laughter] Which talks about is-ness is the energy, and love, whatever. [INAUDIBLE WORDS].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2793.0,2900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How does one work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How does one work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How does one work? Work what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: On oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One just begin at the beginning. I mean it's very simple, you know, there is no \"how.\" When you ask how you should do things, it's like trying to buy gloves, pair of gloves so you don't have to touch, you don't have to strain your hand, or buying pair of pliers, is question \"how?\" That one doesn't even think about how, but one just do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2900.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Rinpoche, if there's no self, if there's no enlightenment, if there's no thought, and there are no memories, then how is it that you're able to tell us what you've experienced and what you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because of those.[Laughter] Seriously. [Laughs] Because things-- things *are*. In fact, actually it might be more correct dharmically to say things *is* -- it's not quite grammatic, but things is. There's an enormous clarity out of nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2950.0,2998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: What perceives that nonexistence if it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: By itself. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pleasure. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2998.0,3012.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I really don't want a three-month seminar, but since Friday, I've continued to have the sense, or it was-- it came to me and it's still with me, that it seems that all the three yanas are happening simultaneously. And so then, how does one-- I mean does one have to isolate the hinayana path and goal from the mahayana and the tantrayana in order to reach the goal of the hinayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it would be safer, much more safer to start on hinayana level at the beginning, because we need a lot of training, that a lot of students have a start on what's called the path of accumulation, which is level of ordinary person, sentient being, not even being bodhisattvas. And from that level just learned how to be ordinary person, plays important part of the first path -- \"tsoglam\", \"path of accumulation\", is the starting point. So one has to start with one thing at a time. It's like question of you have to chew before you swallow. But you have to chew properly. If you chew properly or efficiently, probably you chew and swallow at the same time. But that's depends on your experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Is it that in some way that is-- in that being where one starts--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --in that being one's focus, the rest may be happening anyhow--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anyhow, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --but that is not one's concern?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is a Star of Bethlehem anyway. There is enlightenment. It actually does exist and people done so. And it is real, you could experience it.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we should close our seminar. You would like to ask any--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=3012.0,3151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: In shamatha practice, is there any stage in which there are instructions with particular attention to the surface of the eyeball?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a question of being there, rather than categorized as what they may be, what they are. It's just question of being, simply being. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=3151.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: What is the distinction between the hopelessness that you described in the Naropa seminar last Christmas--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Can you speak any louder?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: What is the distinction between the hopelessness that you described in the Naropa seminar at Christmas and the hope that you talk about now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=3190.0,3217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93892/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends, we should close our seminar. I have to go out to New Jersey and perform a wedding at a Jewish country club. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnyhow, I would like to you to-- I would like to encourage you, that it is extremely necessary and worthwhile thinking very seriously, if you are interested in trodding on the practice of meditation path, that before you learn any gimmicks, you have to get yourself together. And the notion of renunciation and the notion of desolateness and aloneness and loneliness is very all-pervading. But at the same time, you cannot develop sense of renunciation, sense of spiritual path, without that notion of openness -- crisp, clear, winter morning air cannot develop. So, from that point of view meditation is not regarded as pleasurable or particularly painful, but by no means it is regarded as magical trick that will give you instant enlightenment, or instant bliss, whatever. But it is very manual experience, very personal experience, one had to explore, one had to sit and discipline oneself constantly, all the time, which occupies twenty-four hours of one's lifetime.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, no doubt that I don't have to mention, but I still would like to, is that I have written a book called CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM, which is at the moment out of print, but it should be out, according to my publisher, pretty soon, in next few days. And it is worthwhile getting that book which-- that-- it is kind of extended seminar that what we discussed and a lot of things written about that, particularly suited for American audience, American world. And it is worthwhile reading and looking into that.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also there is another very powerful book is THE HUNDRED THOUSAND SONGS OF MILAREPA, translated by C. C. Chang, which is very powerful and very important book to read. And there is also late Suzuki Roshi, from Zen Center in San Francisco, has written a book, if you don't know, called ZEN MIND, BEGINNER'S MIND, which is very powerful book, very direct, very domesticated, and very personal experience, and a fatherly voice of some kind, which is very powerful and important.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd of course my other book called MEDITATION IN ACTION, which I'm sure everybody must have known by this point, [laughter] as also at the same level as ZEN MIND, BEGINNER'S MIND in trying to communicate very simple ideas to people on the spiritual path.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd if you're interested in further in the practice of vipashyana, shamatha, satipatthana techniques, that there is book called [THE] HEART OF BUDDHIST MEDITATION, written by Nyanaponika Thera. And pub-- I think it's published by Weiser's in paperback, it is available.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd very necessary to go through those readings to establish the basic fundamentals of real, hard-working, and real, definite effort that people in the past have put into their practice of discipline. And they have worked very hard for you people, ourselves. And we should appreciate those people who worked hard on their discipline to transmit the energy and wisdom to us, and it is worthwhile admiring their hard-working disciplines they have gone through. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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We have to\nextend our seminar\nfor another three months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2557.08,2589.832"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93893/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of our mental activities\nthat happens all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200#t=2589.832,2594.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170319/file/309200/transcript/93893/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: 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