{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/x05x63c74n/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1976-07-01: Viewing and Working with the Phenomenal World: Talk 7: Shunyata"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1976-07-01"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/229/show\"\u003e1976 Naropa Institute: Viewing and Working with the Phenomenal World\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 7: Shunyata"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Mahayana"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A penetrating talk on the essence of the mahayana path, focusing especially on shunyata, or emptiness.  Describes how when one enters the mahayana, experience of bodhichitta makes one part of \"the bodhichitta principle.\" One is awake from then onward. Trungpa Rinpoche emphasizes that one can only  be woken up by oneself, and that everyone has \"awake-ability\" in them. Known as \"tathagatagarbha\", \"buddha mind.\"  Experience of the absence of conceptual mind is the essence of shunyata. Describes Buddhist students of the past examining questions of shunyata, aided by sitting practice. Basic shunyata principle also includes having a sense of warmth in one's system.  In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks whether enlightened being has twelve nidanas. Trungpa Rinpoche answers \"no\", because having twelve nidanas and five skandhas involves having a watcher, which no longer applies at that point."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 04 2021 to Nov 16 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A penetrating talk on the essence of the mahayana path, focusing especially on shunyata, or emptiness.  Describes how when one enters the mahayana, experience of bodhichitta makes one part of \"the bodhichitta principle.\" One is awake from then onward. Trungpa Rinpoche emphasizes that one can only  be woken up by oneself, and that everyone has \"awake-ability\" in them. Known as \"tathagatagarbha\", \"buddha mind.\"  Experience of the absence of conceptual mind is the essence of shunyata. Describes Buddhist students of the past examining questions of shunyata, aided by sitting practice. Basic shunyata principle also includes having a sense of warmth in one's system.  In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks whether enlightened being has twelve nidanas. Trungpa Rinpoche answers \"no\", because having twelve nidanas and five skandhas involves having a watcher, which no longer applies at that point."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/745/small/thumbnail_164745_1663906634.jpg?1663906709","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19760701VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3062.99733,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/745/small/thumbnail_164745_1663906634.jpg?1663906709","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/745/original/19760701VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1660151720","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3062.99733,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760701VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760701VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Boulder - Viewing and Working With the Phenomenal World - Talk 7 - Shunyata]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: There'll be a couple of meetings coming up that people might be interested in. First of all, for anyone-- any-- that's you... [looks back at Trungpa Rinpoche; laughs] For anyone at the Atlanta area, there's a meeting of the Atlanta Dharma Study Group, or the about-to-be Atlanta Dharma Study Group. And that's the PIC Building, 1345 Spruce Street, at 3:45 on Tuesday. So if you're from the Atlanta area and interested, can be there Tuesday--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN VIDEO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=34.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- Kappa Alpha Theta, the sorority house, and that is going to be -- let me find it -- Monday, at 9:00 in the evening. So that's the meeting about Karme Choling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=73.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, moving on to a brief report on the financial situation. Well actually before I get into the details of the financial situation, I do want to share with you some of what's been going on in the last few days. Because it's a lot more than amounts of money that's been going on. For me it's been quite astounding, the quality of the feeling that's been coming through, the ideas that have been coming through from people. A lot of, you know very positive feeling, a lot of very positive suggestions. And I think the-- in that way this whole experience has been a very *helpful* one, in that we've I think learned a lot about how to run a place like Naropa Institute, and how to plan for it, how to create something that is both needed and workable, that we really never knew before, really had never had the experience of before. And a lot of other things have been happening in the last week, couple of weeks, that are just tremendously hopeful to the future situation of Naropa Institute. So I hope everyone understands that what we've been talking about here is not \"will we get through second session,\" but will Naropa Institute continue -- at all -- to develop, to expand, be what it is, and become *more* of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=91.0,193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the more long-range view, there are some very hopeful things that have been happening. Some more concrete than has been the case; possibilities of affiliations with other universities, that would create a preliminary accreditation situation, which would be obviously financially very helpful. And in fact the Vice-President Jeremy Hayward, and his assistant for accreditation and evaluation, Doug Stewart, met with the North Central Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools today, which is the regional accrediting body. And I think their feeling from that discussion was that our program, our structure, and even our unconventional quality, are no problem with the NCA in terms of accreditation. The main problem that came out of it was... money [laughs]. That they want to see some evidence that we have a financial base that will support the program. Now, that sounds like a problem, but from my own experience in trying raise money, and talking to people from foundations, and individuals who are interested in education, I would very much like to have the chance to start approaching the right people -- not necessarily this constituency, but further afield and a far wealthier one [laughter], for the purpose of funding for accreditation, the funding for having the contingency funds that they are looking for in order to grant accreditation. Because I think that would be a much easier thing to do, actually. That kind of money, from people who are involved in education and foundations and so on is a lot easier to come by, for *that* kind of purpose. They are just the people who are *not* going to put money into keeping us alive, and *are* going to put money into establishing us as an accredited institution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=193.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, why am I telling you all this? Well, because I want you to share with me my own sense of frustration, at the fact that we've come through two and a half years to a point of really just being at the edge of becoming an accredited institution, a more financially solvent one, developing programs with a lot of other existing institutions and so one, and at the same time we've experiencing this immediate problem. There could never be a good time to close Naropa Institute, but if one wants to discriminate, there couldn't be a *worse* one than now. I'm also sharing it with you because I sense myself some quality of despondency, that \"it isn't going to happen, there isn't going to be a second session and so on.\" And I really think that that's -- if I may go so far as to say -- incredibly self-indulgent bullshit at the moment, for us to take on that kind of an attitude. I mean it's some quality, and I know I certainly have the tendency myself, to look for a more comfortable resolution, which is called giving up, or prophesying doom, or whatever, but, you know, we don't have to look for that kind of comfort particularly. What we have to do is raise some money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=343.0,445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, I know everyone's wondering, is there going to be a second session or isn't there? And I still don't know. If we raise at least $20,000 by Tuesday, I'll know. And that's the money that's needed to give the impetus to go into second session. Let me make it quite clear that's not the money needed to get *through* second session. We'll have to consider that at that point. But it is the money needed to go *into* second session. We told you at the beginning, it would be about $45,000 for session one. Well, we've reached about twenty of that. We need another twenty-five by the end of the session, and at least twenty of that by Tuesday. Because we do need some lead time before the end of this session to make a decision in. Well, that's five days. For $20,000. [Laughs] And to facilitate matters, the Naropa Institute offices will be open Saturday and Sunday. [Laughs] We'll be there. You can use the phones, you can come in a talk, you can bring money. And we will be there Monday and Tuesday, and not doing anything else, but dealing with this situation. So if you want to come in and talk you won't have a problem, waiting for someone. That's what we'll be doing. From now through Tuesday. I can only emphasize again, we're tax deductible. Talk to your friends, relatives, neighbors, and so on. And let's have some sense of confidence in the value of it, and our ability to do it. We've actually done okay so far, but now is not the time to taper off, but rather the time to pick it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=445.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I'll leave it at that. And please do come, and talk, and whatever else. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=575.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  [To Karl Springer] How much money we raised so far in this -- between the gaps, since then? Since Tuesday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=583.0,599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KARL SPRINGER: How much money we've raised since Tuesday. Income-- it says \"income since Tuesday.\" Straight contributions -- that's cash and checks -- $3,048. Money pledged, $1,375. And-- well I mean, if it gets better it's [laughing] not so bad. But we have to do that every day, between now and next Tuesday -- *minimally*. Anything else? Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=599.0,645.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It looks like we're still continuing this point, at least right now. And we would like to continue, heroically, in discussing further things that we have discussed in the connections of the mahayanist path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=645.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When somebody begin to realize the notion between the differences, or the oppositions, or the inspirations, on the other hand, that plays between the hinayana and mahayana together, or put together. And there's not very much problem, or there's further more, actually, inspirations begin to take place. Having become a refugee, as hinayanist approach; solitude and self-discipline, individual salvation, begin to bring sense of *public* salvation begin take place -- salvation begin to take place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=700.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Public salvation is that of the mahayanist approach, obviously. When somebody actually transplanted the bodhichitta in their hearts, in their mind, which is awakened state of mind, is actually transplanted in individual's mind, fully and thoroughly, properly. That you become part of the bodhichitta principle. That is to say, that this point onward, that you are *awake* person. You can't be falling asleep anymore. That you're *awake* already. And because you're awake already, therefore you could be afford to be awake, at the same time. Which is the actually taking the bodhisattva vow principle, is that there's some sense of gut-level taking place already in our existence as already evolved Buddhist, from the hinayana to the mahayana, already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=749.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at that level of course [INAUDIBLE] should be very careful again and again this point of course, by saying that we should be very careful and understanding to the idea of theism and nontheism. Which I'm sorry to bring it back again and again -- it's *so*... it's a pain in the ass [laughter], to a lot of you, and I wish-- you *wish* that I would just bypass that little area, but unfortunately, being honest Buddhist like myself, and thorough Buddhist, indoctrinated and well-trained, well-educated in the Buddhist world, and a completely recycled Buddhist, [laughter], and every blood, every item, and every molecule in my system is Buddhist. So, I can't just afford to be bullshitting with anybody -- and *more than that*, that we be talking about trying to get away from spiritual materialism. [Laughter] [laughs] So I had to be honest with you, and I think I have been so far honest as much as I can, if you permitting, you permitting, and we go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=811.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the notion of theism and nontheism is somewhat painful, in some sense. Even the bodhisattva level, much *more so*. That when we begin to talk about transplanting \"bodhichitta\" or \"buddha mind\" in our hearts, in our minds, and awakening what we have *already*, and bringing them all together, is becoming very problematic. If you have a theistic situations getting there together in the way, which is like inviting foreign germs into our heart, while we're having heart surgery, heart transplantation -- you don't want to do that; it's very messy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=905.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That foreign germ is not particularly heretical belief or anything of that nature, but it is a very simple matter; that where we actually wanted to attain enlightenment on the spot, on existence, and we want to be witnessed by ourselves, and also we want to be witnessed by our friends, and watched over, so that we could actually celebrate that our attainment of enlightenment, on the spot. It is like a Bicentennial hoo-ha. [Laughter] And that could never happen. And you cannot actually experience your own attainment of enlightenment on the spot. Or for that matter your friends can't take part in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=962.0,1026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The *wake* concept is awake. Like very simple analogy: when we are asleep, and then we wake. Of course we wake, but we are woken up by *ourselves*. If one by one friends begin to walk into our bedroom, and begin to wake us up, we have already woken up. And so we can't actually celebrate actual \"wake\" at all; you'll be woken up already. And you trying to make polite conversations, or be pissed off to your friends, \"Why you barge into my bedroom while I'm having a nice, good sleep?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1026.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So *wake* had to be *personal* experience: actually, personally one has to be woken by oneself, and actually woken up, on the moment, on the spot, precisely and basically. That you have woken up on the spot by yourself, otherwise you don't experience the sense of being awake, at all. When you be woken up somebody else that's very druggy, complainatory [sic]: \"Oh, come on! What is this? Is this already late. Won't you let me sleep a little bit more? Shoo!\" That's not really sense of \"wake\"! You're not really wake! If you're really *wake*, you are really wake, [laughing] needless to say. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1068.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That notion of awake actually contains the notion of that you have something awake-ability [sic] in you already; otherwise you be drop dead, become jellified, vegetable. Since that you are wake-able person already, therefore you could be *woken up*. Which is \"tathagatagarbha\", or the \"buddha mind\" inside you. The wake-*ability* is already *in* you, already. And let us discuss that wake- abilities, what it's all about, that thing that we are discussing; it is not very much. [Laughs] It's very simple one. There is some sense of wake, and some sense of softness, which is to say, nonaggression. *And*, also we mustn't forget, there's some sense of freshness taking place at that particular point. Some sense of freshness, real freshness. The cool air, as well as a sense of awake, and sense of sympathetic attitude. And usually we fall asleep; we want to go *on* sleeping, because we don't like our world, we would like to escape, and get prescription from our doctors for sleeping pills, \"So that I could escape my world as much as I could. Then I could wake up suddenly, take shower, go to job, and fight with world, and come back, eat dinner -- whatever [laughter] -- go to sleep, take pill. Ssshhh.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1138.0,1256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in this case it's more civilized approach than that. It's Buddhist way is *very* civilized. [Laughing; laughter] Actually it's delightful. But please don't get tripped out for that. [Laughter] Had to be careful on that. There's something very personal about the whole thing. It's nothing so much that impose on you, as rules and regulations, what to *do*, what *not* to do, and all the rest of it. But simple, straightforward situation; how to celebrate one's life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1256.0,1301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of awake is seem to be *full of* awake. If we are awake we are full of awake-ness. Am I making any sense?  [Shrugs; laughter; audience chatter] If you're awake, you are full of wake. Is that clear? Yeah? No? [various voices] No? Doesn't make any sense? Well, I would go on. Try my best, in awake-ness. If you're wake, you're awake, right? However you understand *that* much? [laughter] If you're awake you're awake, right? [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1301.0,1363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, if you're awake, you're awake, and then what? Nothing happens. Just simply go on with the blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever you have. [Laughter; applause] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Trungpa Rinpoche drinks from cup; picks flower out of arrangement and looks at it, puts it back. Then takes it out again and places stem on arm of chair; picks another one out, puts back] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSo what? [Laughter] Nothing happens. Actually nothing happens. But *then* we are not talking about-- that nothing happening is not trying to call it with the notion of shunyata. And shunyata principle is not so much of talking empty wallet. [Laughter; laughs] The shunyata principle is basically the idea of you are awake; you understand that already. And then... what comes next? So what? [Shrugs] Full of questions, possibilities of all kinds. But then again, that doesn't mean anything at all. That moment where you catch yourself between “that” and “this”, and begin to realize that who you *are* is not particularly certain on the spot. You begin to catch yourself between the two points; which is not really two points -- is one point, which is splintered already in two points. And you begin to realize there's this or that possibilities of it. And on the other hand it might be so, but so what? And try to find out, and let us have a good time with that, and whatever it is. And all those little speculations takes place in our head, in our mind. And at the same time whole thing is *total bullshit*, which is the Buddhists calls \"nothing.\" Absence of bullshit. Which could be very *full* with all kinds of further sanities and further vibrant situations of all kinds. But it's basically absence of bullshit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1363.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to translate that into more traditional word, that absence of bullshit, absence of conceptualized mind, is actually-- conceptualized mind is equivalent of that idiom we use in America these days, is \"bullshit\" is conceptual mind. Or, if we could use other-- another vocabulary, which is known as \"trip\" -- [saying with various accents] trip, trip, trip, [laughter] trip. \"You're tripping out on something,\" and \"you're conceptualizing,\" and \"you are bullshitting,\" are all part of the same language, from that point of view. Con-cept-ual-izing to the situations; conceptualizing to-- trying to make-- trying to prove whether *you* exist or the others exist, and conceptualizing whether you exist, the others exist, therefore we could create some sense of a mutual game, joke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1593.0,1676.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is the heavy load, or what is precisely known as \"spiritual materialism.\" [Using different intonation] \"Spiritual material*ism*\" [laughter]. Which is absence in the notion of shunyata situation. Absence of those particular kind of trips, that we're trying to hang onto, and we're trying to *survive* from those particular process. And by surviving we could generate further games and greater games, of all kinds, and we will feel great -- somewhat temporarily great and fantastic, and eventually feel very *grave*. And we begin to catch up on our own trips, our own materialism, and our own problems, of all kinds. And things are not particularly super anymore. And these things begin to catch up with us, which is called depression. And hit back from the spiritual materialism. And *then* at that point we begin to complain, the government, or the organization, our parents, our schooling systems, and our welfare systems, everything you can lay a hand on, we begin to make a gigantic complain about the whole thing. And we are known as \"the protesters\", underground or whatever -- leftists, the rightists, or whatever you have, blah, blah, blah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1676.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually at that point, if you understand the whole thing, you could create ideal society, which is not so ideal, but it's right society. At that point you could put down all the trips, and just be vacant and open. And vacant and open, as I said already, does not necessarily mean to say, no money, no wallet, approach of emptiness, shunyata, but simply clear, fantastic space, and such *freshness* -- [makes graceful circular motion in air with dorje; laughter] -- can take place. It's beautiful. It's real. It has been real for [laughing] 2,500 years in the past, and it is still real. And you better take that reality. Old-aged real, still up-to-date real, and shunyata principle is very real, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1783.0,1850.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So no trips, no conceptualized approach is taking place in our system. That's the basic notion of shunyata. Which doesn't mean to say it negate everything; that there is no room, there's no house, there's no roof, there's no speaker, there’s no audience, there's no carpet, there's no television camera, whatever. And those things are just simple kind of bourgeois Zen joke [laughter] that has developed in America by a lot of people. And people got killed on those dangerous bourgeois Zen words. And lots of people commit suicide -- they think it's safe; since there's nobody, that therefore why not give up the whole thing? And a lot of people get creating all kinds of mess, messy job, in their universe, their world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1850.0,1919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well however that's a slightly different topic. We are not up to discussing politics at this point. [Laughter] But it actually comes in. If we are begin to talk about the notion of compassion, and our care for society, our care for world, and that automatically comes in but it doesn't have to be heavy-handed, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1919.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And notion of shunyata, from that point of view, is no conceptualization and no particular reality is taking place, other than your own trip. And your own trip is therefore also, at the same time, questionable. Who are you? What are you? What is this? What is that? Well, if you're trying to pinpoint, and trying to find out who are you, what we are, what really is actually happening, it is very hard to pinpoint. Not so much of that you are under-intelligence; you are so stupid therefore you couldn't find smart answer. But at the same time you could be *very* smart and very intelligent at the same time, but still not finding the basis of what it is all about. And who are you, what you are, is a very fundamental question. It's not so much of \"the Buddhists took advantage of the stupid, or the idiots. Therefore the idiots couldn't explain what it's all about, therefore Buddhists trying to say, 'Well, let's call it shunyata, and it's nothing, and everything's *fine*. So let's-- audience-- the congregation is stupid, therefore let us make statement, it seem to be safe statement.\" Oh no! Oh no. [Laughs] That's not [laughing] quite the case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=1946.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the minds of the students of the Buddhists in the past have been *so* thorough and precise, in particularly discussing such questions like shunyata principle, is product of the students of the hinayana discipline, who thought-- who so *thoroughly*, so precisely, and they've actually examined questions in their everyday life situations, and how the world of psychology come along, or your particular mind has evolved, at all. And by such analytical and precision, *and* aid by sitting practice of meditation a great deal, that finally they come to conclusion of shunyata principle. Which is not so much of, \"I can't understand, therefore there must be nothing. I do not understand anything happening, therefore there's nothing.\" Again, we are not talking about the empty pocket, empty wallet. But we are talking about simply experiencing things as they are, *very* precisely, fully precisely, as what's going on *right now*, in our mind. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2049.0,2135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you have expectations of all kinds, that why the next word will come along, and how next sentence will come along, how you'll be told the Oriental truth of the shunyata, of all kinds of things like that, but actually... that you're waiting... and nothing's happening, but *full* of *everything*, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2135.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Finally we could say that in order to understand the basic notion of shunyata principle, is one has to realize some kind of sense of warmth is taking place in one's system. Along with that, basic notion of shunyata also can come along, with some notion of humor. If you're serious and militant, as many of our Zen pioneers have been, who end up in-- committing suicide, a lot of them. Save their souls.  [Touches vajra to his forehead; laughter] Nothing happens beyond that. Nothing happens beyond that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2181.0,2231.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The sense of vision and wake, as well as some sense of warmth. When you’re trying to understand something like this, you can't be too harsh on yourself, you can't be too harsh on yourself. Had to be more gentle, and loving to oneself. And when you begin to realize that notion of loving and gentleness in yourself, at the same time you begin to give *up* the notion of trying to find out the real truth, and there is the real notion of where shunyata experience begin to happen. Give up hope of trying to understand some*thing*, and also at the same time having some sense of sympathy to yourself. There is a moment of gentleness and a moment of non-caring. Which is basically inheritance from the hinayana discipline; without that, that there is no realization of shunyata principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2231.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is some readings being assigned up for you people, in discussing the madhyamaka principle, and rest of it, but I think at this point it become too much paraphernalia to discuss that metaphysical approach. And since we have got somewhere, which is very genuine and living Buddhist approach to shunyata.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2297.0,2330.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're welcome to ask questions if you like, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2330.0,2351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady in white t-shirt, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: After having the experience of shunyata, is there still ignorance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ignorance is part of shunyata.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ignorance is part of the shunyata. If you have *experience*, that means you have ignorance at the same time. Otherwise you can't experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And therefore there's such a thing as enlightened ignorance and enlightened grasping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No such hope. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well doesn't an enlighten--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Be careful!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Doesn't an enlightened being have twelve nidanas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. No. No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Doesn't an enlightened being have five skandhas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There is no enlightened being. Enlightened being therefore must be nothing, and the five skandhas go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2351.0,2428.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the question is that when you have those five skandhas, twelve nidanas, you still have a watcher. If there's no watcher, then what? They're free from watcher. And there is only sense of-- the only thing exist is some sense of warmth, some sense of gentleness, exist. But that's not constituted in either of the five skandhas or twelve nidana categories anymore at all. Sense of basic, fantastic *awake* and heroism takes place, without any reference point, and worth celebrating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But what's that thing I see walking around?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's *you*. [Questioner laughs; laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Old you. You're welcome madam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2428.0,2496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody from the back? Okay! There's a young lady in green and black mixture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I come to your lectures and I go to class, and I listen and I'm very much interested in what is being discussed, but it seems the minute I leave, or very shortly after, I've forgotten everything. And I also take notes. Can you give me some sort of indication of what's happening there, I mean I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You should sit lot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --it's kind of a continual gap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2496.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sit. Meditate. Sit first. Cool yourself down -- or up, whatever. [Laughter] Sit lot. And then trying to understand, okay? Practice first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2550.0,2564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's one of the problems, that everybody has somewhat, in the whole room we could say quite safely, are spontaneous and natural Buddhists. [Laughing] I'm not particularly trying to to be trippy about the whole thing, and I would [not?] lie to you about that, but spontaneous Buddhist in this room. Every one of them. But some of them have problems without discipline, and words being forgotten. And the reason why word been forgotten is not so much of they have a bad memory, memorizing process, but some sense of state of being-ness has not established. And sense of basic Buddhist boredom, basic Buddhist notion of renunciation, and working with your body and mind properly. So sitting practice is the only way, to begin that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2564.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody in the shunyata? This gentleman over there? [Laughter] Looks like Jewish. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: I'd like to go back before the shunyata, and ask about the idea of transplanting bodhichitta into one's heart. Why did the mahayanists talk about transplanting something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The notion of transplantation is seem to be based on some kind of rejecting the soil that is there already, which you hadn't had enough chance to grow new plant, so therefore you have to transplant. That's usually happens, in ordinary transplantation. Is because that land is too bleak. You had to plant something in it. You understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Yeah...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And because of that, the notion is that that's good news, in some sense. Because the hinayana discipline had already devastated any possibilities of living features exist on that particular ground. Everything is cleaned out, purified. *Absolutely* perfectly, complete. Although that land might have possibilities of producing or transplanting further soil-- further trees, or greeneries or whatever--\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: --and where do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So, therefore, transplantation is ideal.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Where do you transplant *from*?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2636.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Transplant from, basically, that what Earth can produce, which is buddha nature. And also transplant from, because the external situations, where the lineage, or whatever you have, the inspirations could put together. It's not so much transplanting plant tree on the spot. But it's a tree from ground, tree from above, somehow finally in making its connections together. It's like plugging something like your socket and your television; if there's already a socket, you can plug in. But still, it's not easy as that, that's too vajrayana. [Laughter] Anything else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2740.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lemon shirt?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Does logic at last deny itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Does logic at last deny itself? Like, I have a feeling there are so many words, and we try to understand so much, but at last there's nothing to understand. So I mean...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Logic, yeah. I mean what we're-- what is trying to going on, yeah? I have the feeling, is there is training in logic, training in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Logic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Training in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic. Logic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. Training in understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But it comes up to the point that there's nothing to understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2818.0,2877.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, logic is logic, obviously. [Laughter] And you have to develop some kind of sense of understanding of what logic is all about. But once you begin to understand, that you are not trying to prove -- at least from the Buddhist point of view anyway -- that you are trying to stand on your own ground particularly, but you're simply trying to actually pinpoint the situations as they are. As long as you stand on your ground, of logic, trying to prove your whole security, that I would call it the \"Jesuit logic\"; Society of Jesus, Jesuit logic. Which is the very powerful organization of Christian-- Catholic organization, as you know, [laughs] which are very enlightened in their own little way. [Laughter] But somehow at the same time, they have their problems being-- having one face, opposed to having a thousand faces, to look at simultaneously one directions, which is impossible. And logic does mean logic. If only become logical, if you look at simply, the one mean-- many mean one, at the same time. I hope you can make tail or head of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I didn't understand at all. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we'll try and think about it. That's logic for you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=2877.0,3001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes, is there a difference between bleeding heart and empty heart? And are they related to the experience of shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both are same thing. If heart is bleeding, it must be empty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And how are they related to the experience of shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] Yeah! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3001.0,3022.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39744/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay! Well, maybe we should let you go to sleep. I'm afraid tonight, it's too late for bars, but have your good time in the homes. Thank you, being *so* patient. You're *such* good students. [Laughter] Very patient; it's great. Thank you for waiting. My apologies being late. [Laughter] Thank you. Good night!  [Waves] \r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Good night!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3022.0,3062.99733"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760701VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KARL SPRINGER: There'll be a\ncouple of meetings coming 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shunyata?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3014.87,3016.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering]\nYeah!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3016.44,3017.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]\nSPEAKER5: Thank 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Okay!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3021.75,3023.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, maybe we should\nlet you go to sleep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3023.04,3024.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm afraid tonight,\nit's too late for bars,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3024.51,3027.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but have your good time\nin the homes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3027.74,3032.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, being *so* patient.\nYou're *such* good 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Good night!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3043.87,3048.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE:\nGood night!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745#t=3049.52,3051.9"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76141/file/164745/transcript/39745/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/039/745/original/19760701VCTR1-Captions-ForVideo.vtt?1662365146","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/039/745/original/19760701VCTR1-Captions-ForVideo.vtt?1662365146"}]}]}]}