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Naropa as a Buddhist-inspired but also secular institution, ÒsecularÓ here meaning Òwithout dogma.Ó Definition of art as not only music or painting but also the sacredness inherent in daily life. Art as environment; education as the mind which relates with that environment. Traditional method of learning information on the spot contrasted with analogy of gradual growth of yeast -- having an idea in you during the course of everyday life, and that idea becoming increasingly familiar. Art as the basic situation where the student is available and open; education as the yeast that then grows in the student."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 7: Selected Writings: \"Art and Education\"\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 26 2021 to Nov 10 2021 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Discussion of Naropa Institute's educational philosophy of self-knowledge through meditation combined with human development, working with others. Naropa as a Buddhist-inspired but also secular institution, ÒsecularÓ here meaning Òwithout dogma.Ó Definition of art as not only music or painting but also the sacredness inherent in daily life. Art as environment; education as the mind which relates with that environment. Traditional method of learning information on the spot contrasted with analogy of gradual growth of yeast -- having an idea in you during the course of everyday life, and that idea becoming increasingly familiar. Art as the basic situation where the student is available and open; education as the yeast that then grows in the student."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpche. Naropa Institute public talk entitled Art and Education, given on June 24th, 1979, at Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado. This is a CTI custom remaster made July 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nWILLIAM MCKEEVER: I'd like to welcome you all here this evening. For my own information, how many of you in the audience are relatively new to the activities of Naropa Institute? Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=30.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to begin with by saying that I have the pleasure tonight to introduce to you Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, who is the founder and president of Naropa Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=50.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The institute began in 1974, and since then has developed into a year-round school offering undergraduate and graduate programs in a variety of fields in the arts, in psychology, and in Buddhist studies. And tonight's talk is on art and education, which very much embodies two of the principle themes at the institute. The programs at this time primarily involve themselves in dance, theater, poetic, Buddhist studies, and Buddhist and Western psychology. And we offer programs at the BA and the Master's level, as well as always being open to part-time students on either credit or noncredit basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=66.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of this evening's speaker, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche has been, as I mentioned, very interested in these two fields for a long time. He is an accomplished Buddhist scholar and meditation master of the Karma Kagyu and the Nyingma lineages of Tibetan Buddhism, and is also an accomplished artist. He was an-- accomplished in the traditional Tibetan art form of thangka painting, and since coming to the West and teaching in the United States since 1971 has worked a great deal in many other art forms, including calligraphy and flower arranging, photography, as well as the Mudra Theater Group, another division of Nalanda Foundation and associated with the institute here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo without any further remarks, I'd like to turn this evening over to Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=114.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I'm afraid I haven't prepared any of my talk tonight particularly, and hoping that you could provide some reference point, and trusting in the audience, and which is also maybe another way of working art in education in some sense. And now that you're all here and I'm here, I feel quite comfortable and maybe could talk about it. The topic was chosen because the integrity of Naropa Institute is largely based on an idea of human development. And human development consist of discipline and raising of the insight, and in turn they could share what they have developed to the rest of the world, altogether. So we have personal development and environmental development, and then human development connected with working with others. And when we talk about art in this particular fashion, this is rather vast subject. It includes practice of meditation, it includes learning about oneself, to discover the nonexistence of one's ego, to begin with discussing about existence of one's ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=201.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Naropa Institute also presents the program that is very solid and vast in the psychology field as well, and that is becoming very interesting topic tonight, particularly, talking about art and education. We don't regard ourselves at Naropa Institute as a strictly Buddhist institution, but however we regard ourselves as Buddhist-inspired situation -- otherwise there is no basis of working with anything at all. And that kind of Buddhist environmental situation has brought us here, that we could discuss everything quite frankly and freely about way we grow ourselves up, and how we approach with that growing-up process, and way we relate with our sense of further discovery of beyond purely growing process alone, that how we could actually relate with ourselves as decent human being. Can relate with our fathers, our mothers, and our economy, and our husbands and wives, brothers and sisters and friends, and rest of the world. That's what we are concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=339.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sure you have heard this from lot of other sources, other integrities -- traditions that exist in this continent and at large in the world have been looking for such situations -- but we might be so presumptuous to say that we feel that our approach is very unique. And to begin with, our approach is very strange, and therefore it is unique. And out of the strangeness of it, it comes. We feel we are very decent, and that also is unique. And further accomplishment of when we have achieved our discipline with our students and anybody who is interested in the practice of decency of human existence. We have achieved, we will achieve, and we are achieving process of some kind of fruition, as that decent human being can shine forth to manifest its basic goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=444.0,535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With that particular logic and process, we regard our institute is somewhat secular. When we talk about \"secular\", sometimes you have might have misunderstanding with the word \"secular\" but in our vocabulary, word \"secular\" means \"without dogma.\" You can relate with your bread and butter breakfast, lunch, dinner situation very fully, thoroughly. But nevertheless your breakfast, lunch, dinner is very sacred. That's where the art concept comes from. So it's a double-edged sword; nonetheless, it is a spiritual but not necessarily religious, such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=535.0,607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The integrity of Naropa Institute remains very intact and very clean-cut this point, and we have never made any modification or excuse to trying to fit to the socket of the modernization of the materialism of the Western world. For that matter on the other hand, we did not particularly try to present any kind of trip or superiority concept of any kind at all, so our integrity at the Naropa Institute is very decent, as far as I know, that we know, and reasonable, and also highly disciplined. And in turn, obviously, we do take pride in that. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=607.0,682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Art is environment. Education is the mind which relate with that environment. That's how we see this institute functioning formally -- all our basic integrity, total integrity that way, too. Art being environment, because whatever we do in course of our life -- depositing money in your bank or cashing your check, making business deals, cooking breakfast, preparing party for your friends, buying new hat, mending your clothes, stopping at the gas station to fill up your car -- anything that involves in our spectrum of life altogether is art, very much of art, because that we are capable of doing all those things, which a lot of you might think it's just couldn't care less, just do them very randomly. And often a lot of people's attitude is to do them and then get rid of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=682.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in this case sacredness is your capability of that you have a capability of eating breakfast, and you have a capability of mending your clothes, and you have a capability of putting your clothes in a dishwasher-- I mean washing machine, [laughter; laughs] and putting your dishes in dishwasher. And you have all those capabilities that you don't mix things...\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident or gesture; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=811.0,848.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a general intelligence that allows ourselves to be here, like all of you here tonight obviously here because you know what you're doing, somewhat, and I don't think anybody is here by mistake. And nobody will be here because that you thought this is a gas station; nobody is here because you think this is a restaurant. And that logic seem to be very, very small and very naive, but on the other hand it makes sense, that you managed be here at this particular place, on certain time, wearing certain clothes, and sitting on a certain seat, and listening and trying to understand. And all of those activities of yours are regarded as basic intelligent, basic goodness, expression of basic goodness. That you have a discriminating awareness of wisdom to do what you want, which is in itself work of art. It's expression of, we call it in the Buddhist tradition, \"prajna\", which means \"the best of knowledge.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=848.0,947.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic integrity is interesting -- that we know what we're doing, and that particular notion, with some sense of basic goodness in you, takes place very powerfully. So, everybody is good, everybody possess basic goodness, for the very reason because you are here, and you are capable of being here, and your intelligence and intellect led you here, and you're willing to share this kind of feast of intelligence or sanity with us altogether. And that is astounding and quite extraordinary, but on the other hand very ordinary. And we have an expression called \"ordinary mind\" and we have expression called \"the best of the mind, the greatest insight\", which both mean exactly the same thing. They both come to the one conclusion of that whatever we do, we can do, is expression of basic goodness in you. And all of you look healthy, and maybe some of you may be quite skeptical, but still sort of tickled in your heart, and open, and wondering. But overall effect is that there is that kind of presence that you projected as audience here, all of you, does mean that we have something going, if you could simplify in ordinary language. Basic goodness, which makes feel good. [Baby crying in audience] The baby cries, but cries very wholeheartedly. [Laughter] Wholeheartedly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=947.0,1118.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Art in this case is not purely, alone, that you can do your musical, or painting, or little arrangements of this and that alone, but art is -- big \"Art\" we're talking about tonight -- is that we have basic goodness to have environmental situation like this, it is in itself work of art, and it is really worth cheering up tremendously. And sometimes if you're trying to understand it too hard, you find yourself deaf and dumb on the spot. So I wouldn't try to understand too hard tonight -- just relax and catch the edge of the presentation words. Punctuation is important to listen to, rather than words itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1118.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the education, the second theme, which is because of that environment that we have created tonight here, that education principle altogether is discipline. That says a lot in fact; that is not only why you're here, but when you leave tonight, go back to your home, and falling asleep, and waking up tomorrow morning as well. And Naropa Institute's philosophy is that we don't regard that you could be educated on the spot, but you could be told lots of things, lots of informations, such as like the art concept. According to Naropa Institute's philosophy, education is regarded as like yeast infection. It grows on you, [laughter] and as it grows on you, it becomes more infectious. It grows beyond, beyond, and beyond, that what you heard probably doesn't mean anything when you first heard it, but then you cherish that in your mind, you sleep on it, you have breakfast with it, you have lunch with it, you have dinner with it, and you keep on having it with you all along, which is also ordinary and special at the same time. But then it begin to become haunting situation, that you begin to have second thoughts, third thoughts, fourth thoughts, fifth thoughts, sixth thoughts, and on and on -- until when you have a hundred thoughts, it begin to become real, begin to make sense. The yeast concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1192.0,1341.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the traditional educational system of Victorian style is either you learn on the spot or not. If you don't, you be hit; if you do, you be treated better. And in fact in many situations, at least in the previous students of Naropa Institute have asked for some kind of process where the student might be rewarded if they learn better. We do not believe in the rewarding school system or the punishing school system, but we believe in the yeast system, that we are educating you because you can produce your own yeast. When we plant our yeast in you, you have the basic ingredients in you already, because you are awake person and you have that kind of sacredness and artfulness already in you already, therefore we could develop beyond that. So the artfulness is the basic situation where you can be approached. You are \"yeast-able\" already, and so with the educational system, the yeast is planted in your system, then your \"yeast-ability\" begin to take effect and begin to grow and develop. So then we have two things put together, the art and education begin to work together that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1341.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the whole, putting two of them together, that educational system is-- we believe in Naropa institute's concept is that whatever we present with our systems in our educational situations, we regard all of them as organic situations that people can relate with them and understand them, and we have never presented anything that no one can relate with. And in fact you'd be surprise there's nothing like that at all. There is nothing that no human beings can relate with, and everything we present, or even everything your *life* presents, is always workable. So we never cut out anything or we never edited anything out, but in fact to our surprise when we go through the list of what is not possible, \"yeast-able\" educational problem, we couldn't find anything. And arts, martial arts, psychology, Buddhist studies, and in fact we would like to bring more situations, as much as we could, so that situation could become much richer. In other word what we are saying is that we can't find anything that we should exclude in life; from the animal husbandry to attainment of enlightenment, that everything is included in our education. If you could have that kind of fundraising situation, that we can actually perpetuate such good education, that we feel that we could handle *everything* absolutely, and student will be handle-- able to handle everything as well, at the same time. So, therefore the spirit of the Naropa Institute is a vast mind, is another expression, and also very deep at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1464.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, ladies and gentlemen, I don't think I should say too much to confuse you further. Maybe could have a good discussion, if anybody would like to ask any questions or make any comments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1627.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It seems to me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Excuse me, you have to have the microphone, so everybody could hear you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It seems to me that while art is mind and education is environment, and I really wonder why all these people are here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1656.0,1683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: It seems to me that art is mind and that education is environment -- you kind of said the other.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And so I wonder about why all these people are here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think art is environment, if I may contradict. The-- maybe I could use a Buddhist logic, if I may? The \"art\" concept is the traditional analysis of abhidharma concept of using six organs of body, sight, smell, touchables, hearing, everything, and out of that you begin to have a visual sense, hearing sense, smelling sense, touchable sense, and some kind of emotional from your heart, brain. So it's very much of mind situation, because you see them, you hear them, and when you see them it begin to become art. You can rearrange or not rearrange whatever you see, what you hear -- it's mind's world. With education is also, interestingly, environmental at the same time, because that sense of what you be educated of-- into, at the same time. Education is largely based on discipline, and following your particular schedule, and working with a certain particular discipline per se, personally, as well. And you could say this room is an educational room because we have environment and everybody has-- possesses two eyes and nose and ears and mouth and body, which is educatee who respond to educational situations. So we have a container and a contained put together, which makes Naropa Institute, that point. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] a container is not necessary for education or art.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Container?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or the be contained? Container is not necessary, did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1683.0,1861.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Yeah. I mean it's not-- I mean this is-- I mean that, people could be educated in any other situation, people who are not here may very well be educated, be expressing themselves artistically, and may not-- and possibly [INAUDIBLE WORDS] doesn't seem to be in any sense necessary that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the interesting point is that educatees do need a roof over their head in case it rain, and they have a place to sit on, and they have-- need their body, so what we call it \"heaven, earth, and man principle.\" And they need that kind of environment in any case, and you can't just be parachuting somewhere while you're studying, or you might be journeying to the moon while you're studying being astronaut. So that's as simple as that. You know in some sense, obviously, you do need *a* place to be *in*, in certain environment, and definitely you need head, and buttocks to sit on, and breathe, and work with something. Simple as that -- you do need that kind of environment, and that's what we call it, Naropa Institute.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As much as we have [UNCLEAR: heaven on?] earth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1861.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, my understanding of art is relating to the idea of kitchen sink, and education is like the idea of the sharpening qualities, and I think that that's what you said also just in your talk. The thing that I wonder about though is, it seems like there is a relationship between-- in relating with kitchen sink level, there is-- the art quality applies, but at the same time developing a sharper sense of intelligence to go along with that. And I was wondering if you could say something or explain a little bit more about how that sense of intelligence is developed along with an appreciation for art at the same time, so it doesn't become either just a head trip or just a sort of tripped out mind that's sort of [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I think you actually made good analogies already. That's it. You understand it, seemingly -- that's good. And I don't have to say beyond that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Jolly good. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1981.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well it definitely [INAUDIBLE] in my view, in my concept of art [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. I do see things that I consider artistic and usually they're a product of my unconscious, [INAUDIBLE] like poetry for example.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Like sometimes I write poetry which I couldn't quite write myself and yet I couldn't know enough to write it either. It has a life and form of its own and it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --product of the total fleeting to the unconscious. And I consider education, unless it's not education [INAUDIBLE WORDS] experience of art, but education to evolve our knowledge of the world rather than the knowledge of the individual's total creativity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if I may say so, sir, that individual is the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Individual *is* the world. The world is individual; individual is the world. There is not much differences between the two. But only thing what we're concerned about that expression of art has to have some kind of benevolent quality, so that we don't come out with our trip, and nobody get hurt by it psychologically or physically. But educating oneself means educating the rest of the world at the same time, so that microcosm and macrocosm approach, already. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn some sense we could say that educatee and educator are one in the realm of basic education. Nobody is educating anybody, but on the other hand everybody is educating each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2072.0,2202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: I'm concerned about losing the individual in the [INAUDIBLE WORDS] individual with the totality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, jolly good. [Laughter] We call it that-- if you lose individuality then you regain further greater vision, and that is to say the idea of egolessness, when you have no ego, you discover the greater freedom so you begin to discover a better \"you\" than when you used to have your ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Perhaps if you have greater freedom it would free you for nothing if you have no ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well freedom from nothing is better than freed from something because--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Freedom *for* nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, then you have nothing to fight against. You begin to love your world because you never hold grudge against anybody, you gain free from \"them\", there is no \"them\" involved. So you are free and you are in the state of freedom, rather than you are free from somebody rather.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2202.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: Sir, in this audience I hate to say what I will say very briefly, but isn't there a certain sweetness in the existence of the ego, which the universal self does not participate in, [UNCLEAR: this isn't a?] compensation and the lack of that very sweetness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say \"universal freedom\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I just think there is a ratio between individuality and universality -- that universality is a compensation for lack or loss of individuality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say that, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And I'm not sure if the compensation is always worth it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessary, compensation not necessary. We believe individual freedom to begin with, then you might discover universal freedom, because individuals are freed, therefore the occupants of the universe is consist of those people who are freed. So there is no particular problem, and it is the same as everything start with nothing, therefore everything start with everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I could continue or I could stop if you wish.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, keep going. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2267.0,2348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: It seems to me if I'm referring to my metaphor, the sweetness involved in the ego [INAUDIBLE WORDS] but there's a well-known phrase that \"vengeance is sweet.\" Now it seems to me that [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [UNCLEAR: follows the?] sweetness which the phrase \"vengeance is sweet\" incorporates, and that therefore--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sweet?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sweet.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes. A certain intensity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: A certain intensity. Now--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you see any problems with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --[INAUDIBLE] who is to say, who is to say that that intensity is itself of less value than the psychology which achieves a victory of the absolute destruction of the ego?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2348.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by \"sweet\"? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm going to say that it's not necessarily about agreeing if I meant bliss is sweet. I mean, intensive bliss to the perceiving being. [UNCLEAR: That's self?] justifying something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I wouldn't say all-justifying but justifying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think on the whole, sir, that if you remove any of the-- take example of the motorcar. What your logic and what you presentation is very good, I understand, but at the same time if you're going to make a little adjustment to that. Supposing if you are a motorcar yourself, your logic is a motorcar, and we have to remove the front fender altogether, altogether, but we have a good engine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I don't see the analogy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, so that you can bump into anything you want, but you are not secured from bumping into somebody else and still secured your windshield.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2400.0,2481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: So let's [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [Laughter] There is the imp of the perverse.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The *imp* of the perverse.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ink?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Imp: i-m-p. This is a reference to a story of Edgar Allen Poe. But your metaphor--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds quite obscure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Your-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ink?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I-n-k?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2481.0,2505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: Sometimes when you drive along the highway you get this perverse desire which [UNCLEAR: you feel you'll regret?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS] like having an accident for the hell of it. Now suppose you should decide to have an accident for the hell of it and get killed in the process -- pass judgment upon that. You [INAUDIBLE WORDS] for the moment, the [UNCLEAR: same? insane?] moment of destruction--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm completely speechless. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2505.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, a couple of years ago in a lecture, when you were talking about some kind of environmental pollution, you started talking about people creating their \"shitty works of art\", is the way you put it. And you said that, \"how long can you go on creating more junk in the world?\" After I heard that I went into a creative block [laughter] that lasted about a year and a half. And my feeling was that it would be wrong to be an artist, or try to work as an artist, until I had achieved some kind of semi-enlightenment or some kind of clarity and lack of confusion. And I'm wondering how that concept applies to what you're saying now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think very simple, because the production of junk, artistic materials, are result of either trying to prove oneself or else trying to find out in case there are any buyers, any audience, any students who will buy your trip. And that is become very ugly in some sense, and it's so individualistic and made-- homemade in the worst sense, and when you begin to witness them you begin to smell your personal fart, and personal sneeze and hiccups, and vomit permeating out of your production of your work of art. And that is not very elegant and not very helpful to anybody. And who would like to go down with you down the hill, and join your depression and join your odor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2562.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Well it seems that if you create-- it seems that if you're creating, and you create spontaneously, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --anything is liable to surface.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, interesting thing there. Interestingly that I don't regard those are very spontaneous, particularly. They are calculated, somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But I think it's-- in my particular instance, it's *very* calculated in some ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it goes with everybody who portray their own fart--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --in a work of art, and they are very calculating. And often they'll be so smart and they already research the business world -- who will buy their work of art -- which is too bad and great shame, a tremendous shame on whole thing. And we could do better than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2697.0,2754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could do better than that. And once upon a time, in the maybe sixties or forties, heaviest neurosis and heaviest complete insanity was very fashionable. People think that's extraordinary, somebody could come up with the greatest neurosis, greatest *hell* -- but, fortunately that time has passed. People begin to realize aftereffect of that; lot of people got suffered from that and hurt by that, therefore they don't want to jump on their own razor blade again. So, this present-- particular present situation is very opportune situation, where the work of art could be presented very sane and good, and we have a tremendous opportunity, this particular era. We could present-- we could learn lesson, bad lessons from the previous thing, and we could also project with the good lessons but learn with the bad lesson at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2754.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: The only thing that still confuses me is we're the creator or the artist, and I know that a lot of artists, obviously the audience, where they can draw their own conclusion about the purity of the [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Inspiration? Well their own wakefulness, their own basic goodness. They could do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And we find that nobody here is all that extreme anyway -- everybody is very decent here. And that says a lot, actually that says a lot. And people can do it and there is greater possibilities of that, absolutely. And I'm very encouraged.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I am, too. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2833.0,2875.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40701/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Well, with that note maybe have to stop this point. And thank you everybody, taking part in this so-called public talk, and I appreciate your patience and waiting, and thank you very much. If you'd like to join us with the Naropa projects, you're welcome. And also, something else that we do have this particular, what's called a \"dharma art seminar\" which is happening between the two sessions of Naropa Institute, first session, second session. And you could look into that and we will be discussing more about art that point. And you are more than welcome to check into that, take part in that. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd please, relax tonight. Don't discuss too much of what, tonight -- just forget altogether. [Laughter] And have a good sleep and see what happens tomorrow morning. Thank you very much. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=2875.0,2943.71263"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790624VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=1.56,3.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trungpa Rinpche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=3.34,5.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Naropa Institute public talk\nentitled Art and Education,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=5.48,12.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given on June 24th, 1979,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=12.19,16.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Naropa Institute\nin Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=16.49,19.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made July 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=19.74,26.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"WILLIAM MCKEEVER:\nI'd like to welcome you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=30.3,31.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all here this evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=31.5,34.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For my own information,\nhow many of you in the audience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=38.03,40.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are relatively new to the\nactivities of Naropa Institute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=40.9,46.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580#t=47.02,49.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76183/file/164580/transcript/40702/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to begin with by saying\nthat I have the pleasure 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