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The first meeting with faculty after Trungpa Rinpoche coming out of a year's retreat in 1977. Michael Brownstein reports Poetics department offering many kinds of poetics practices, students coming from all over the country. Program explores parallels between awareness in writing and in sitting practice. Barbara Dilley reports Dance department needs expanded facilities; could create dance situation different from anything in the country.  Raises question as to whether program should be aimed at professionalism or evolving new approach to artistic expression. Trungpa Rinpoche replies Naropa not focused on \"product\", but trying to slowly uplift society through a new model.  Dilley observes that in becoming accredited Naropa allying itself more with traditional educational institutions; Trungpa Rinpoche says no problem with  becoming more visible in larger educational world. Theater director Lee Worley notes many theater students becoming Buddhist, suggests creating extension program for them to continue doing theater beyond Naropa community. Program encourages them to become \"performers, actors\" in their lives. Trungpa Rinpoche notes putting together meditation and theater creates new kind of theater discipline, Naropa creating its own culture of expressing \"real world\" through theater. Involves bodhisattva idea of sharing with others, as theater so immediate.  Psychology director Edward Podvoll reports positive changes in program, which now has 50 students. More emphasis on meditation, with one month sitting required. Also more practical, with more students planning to go into field.  Feedback from professionals is it's \"unique in American psychology.\" Many accomplished therapists coming to teach there. Trungpa Rinpoche notes close link between psychology and Buddhism, \"working toward sanity.\"  In final remarks, Trungpa Rinpoche defines Naropa Institute as more \"a way of life rather than a struggle.\"  Building up of spirit and cheerfulness. For faculty, personal sanity and genuineness are key. Tibetan tradition of teachers as elders who are sane and well-disciplined, teaches others that way. Being true and honest as bringing strength and delight, being fully who you are."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Nov 05 2021 to Mar 01 2022 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ella Milligan Terminology Review: Lynn Friedman Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1978"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A substantive exchange between Trungpa Rinpoche and department heads at Naropa Institute. The first meeting with faculty after Trungpa Rinpoche coming out of a year's retreat in 1977. Michael Brownstein reports Poetics department offering many kinds of poetics practices, students coming from all over the country. Program explores parallels between awareness in writing and in sitting practice. Barbara Dilley reports Dance department needs expanded facilities; could create dance situation different from anything in the country.  Raises question as to whether program should be aimed at professionalism or evolving new approach to artistic expression. Trungpa Rinpoche replies Naropa not focused on \"product\", but trying to slowly uplift society through a new model.  Dilley observes that in becoming accredited Naropa allying itself more with traditional educational institutions; Trungpa Rinpoche says no problem with  becoming more visible in larger educational world. Theater director Lee Worley notes many theater students becoming Buddhist, suggests creating extension program for them to continue doing theater beyond Naropa community. Program encourages them to become \"performers, actors\" in their lives. Trungpa Rinpoche notes putting together meditation and theater creates new kind of theater discipline, Naropa creating its own culture of expressing \"real world\" through theater. Involves bodhisattva idea of sharing with others, as theater so immediate.  Psychology director Edward Podvoll reports positive changes in program, which now has 50 students. More emphasis on meditation, with one month sitting required. Also more practical, with more students planning to go into field.  Feedback from professionals is it's \"unique in American psychology.\" Many accomplished therapists coming to teach there. Trungpa Rinpoche notes close link between psychology and Buddhism, \"working toward sanity.\"  In final remarks, Trungpa Rinpoche defines Naropa Institute as more \"a way of life rather than a struggle.\"  Building up of spirit and cheerfulness. For faculty, personal sanity and genuineness are key. Tibetan tradition of teachers as elders who are sane and well-disciplined, teaches others that way. Being true and honest as bringing strength and delight, being fully who you are."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/163/592/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469393","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19780112VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3585.14938,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/163/592/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469393","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/163/592/original/19780112VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1659070391","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3585.14938,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780112VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19780112VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Meeting With Core Faculty]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Naropa Institute, Meeting with Core Faculty on January 12th, 1978. This is a CTI auto-remaster made November 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=0.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: OPENING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How's it going? I thought we could have just a kind of a discussion together. And this is part of my homework, so to speak, that trying to study what's been happening in my absence and also what we can do further with Naropa Institute. So would be very helpful if you can-- some of you can give some sort of feedback as to-- or any questions related with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=24.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where shall we begin?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Where shall we begin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well, [laughs] we have Dance, [laughs; laughter] Buddhist Studies, and Psychology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=74.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: POETRY UPDATE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's start with Poetry.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: All right let's start with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Do you want to say something Michael?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Well, shall I, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: --ask any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=93.0,106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, comments on what's been happening with the poetry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=106.0,110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: The program has been good, I think. In the summer there are many people and many courses, and of course in the winter and spring much less. So we're hoping that would expand, I guess partly through accreditation. The program itself seems to be very energetic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: And like I say there is a big ballooning that goes on in the summer in terms of the number of students that come.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: [INAUDIBLE] fact.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: I think we've accomplished a lot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Especially in terms of the variety of students that have come through from different parts of America, the variety of ages, what they've been able to get out of the program.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: The courses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=110.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well what's the kind of journey we are trying to take there? Do we have future vision, or... ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=157.0,170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Yeah. I think, you know, as a certain extent you could come to several words such as \"awareness\" and so on, which seem to me very general. But those type of words come out of really what the specific teachers are doing in terms of broadening the horizon of what the students know of as literature, and also in terms of what they're able to do as writers. You know there's sort of two things going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Both literature and writing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=170.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: We do have a two-year certificate program which hasn't been-- hasn't really gotten off the ground, and I don't know exactly why. I think mostly again it has to do with accreditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=202.0,213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: For the students or their parents -- or whatever -- aren't willing to kind of go through something for two years straight if there's no degree that they can supposedly enter the American marketplace with, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=213.0,227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: They don't quite-- haven't quite flocked behind that idea. [Laughter] But otherwise they are-- they're sort of poised I think on the edge of that-- that that aspect of things would change if we become accredited.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=227.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Otherwise we're trying to as best we can, economically and so on, trying to bring in many different kinds of contemporary poetic practice in America. I think as you know, you know, of people like William Burroughs in the summer, so there's not only Allen and Anne and myself, but a sort of variety of different teachers. And now with us, Rinpoche, Joanne Kyger who's from California and Dick Gallup who is from New York who's helping the core program. And then the summer of course many different kinds of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=245.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Because I really feel -- again without talking too much in specifically Buddhist terminology -- but I feel that we've found that aiming towards or encouraging or focusing on a certain kind of awareness through writing parallels really the awareness that comes from sitting practices. Although we don't directly push that -- with the possible exception of Allen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: [UNCLEAR: Can you control him though?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=289.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How many percentage of people sit in the students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=320.0,324.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: It varies. I don't really-- in the summer I think of--- I really don't know -- I couldn't come up with a percentage. There do seem to be though -- even winter and spring -- over the past few years people who come to take writing classes end up gradually getting involved in sitting practice. Some of them become members of this community. And I don't know the percentage, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Half? Less than half?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah. What kind of people? Old? Young?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: All kinds. Mostly young, mostly college age. So I think the program is going well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's good. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: We wanted to expand of course more than we've been able to, but I mean [INAUDIBLE] this year.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=324.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DANCE UPDATE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, anybody else?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Dance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=383.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BARBARA DILLEY: We finished the two-year program, first certificate program, and graduated three students. I feel that the basis of that was very good. Our biggest problem seems to be lack of facilities. We have a hard time having enough space for the kinds of classes for allowing the student to have free time in the studio, which is something that I feel would make the Naropa dance situation different from anything else in this country. There's an ongoing nucleus of dancers who've been involved in the program, either during the winter and spring or in the summertime, that they seem to be staying around. And the question is coming up: how to nurture this advanced situation, since we only really offer something through two years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=401.0,477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's sort of two levels of people that are attracted to the program. Beginning students would like to enter a discipline or a training; and then in the summertime there are a lot of advanced-- more advanced dancers coming looking for an alternative to the type of dance training that appears in the rest of the country.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=477.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BARBARA DILLEY: And we're not quite able to offer them a strong enough discipline situation yet. The classes have been going very well. We have a pretty high enrollment considering what Naropa is able to offer. I think there-- the questions are that I've been wondering about in terms of our direction have to do with the type of education that we're actually trying to present to young dancers. Whether we're aimed toward a professionalism that allows them some entrance into the working world, or whether we're evolving another kind of approach to artistic expression -- which my vision is tended to be toward what I call \"high amateurism\". Those are questions we haven't really had a chance to figure out, is a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=507.0,581.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, I think one of the problems that we have is throughout the whole thing is that we are not trying to-- of course the first thing, we are not trying to produce, you know, product that is pollution and sort of has insanity effect on the people. And so we can't just popularize completely whole thing into that level. Which brings us of course, in some sense, that when we don't bend down to the situations like that, then we are left with a few selected kind of people, and the possible working situation world becomes narrower somewhat. But it seem to be Naropa Institute is too much future-oriented, as it shou--\r\n\r\n\r\nBARBARA DILLEY: Too much future-oriented?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=581.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, in some sense. But on the other hand, I don't think there's any problem with that. So looks like we have to create our own audience at the same time and our own business, and somehow keep, you know, integrity. And there could be some flexibilities of course; one doesn't have to be completely rigid upon that. But the idea is that society could be uplifted slowly as we begin to present our things to the world, rather than we are trying to sort of camouflage ourselves into the society in the sort of degraded world, whatever you call it. So that seem to be financial problem too; we lose a lot of money because of that. But at the same time I think we probably will gain a lot of high opinion, you know, good opinion and good attitude to certain good people. You know people with some sense probably will pick up that. So I suppose that's, you know, applies to everything actually what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=646.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BARBARA DILLEY: When I first came here, you had expressed a vision of art -- \"expressive arts school\" is the first words that I remember connected with what has now become Naropa. And at that time there was an image around about artists and students being apprenticed to artists. And in the process of attempting accreditation and becoming affiliated with a more traditional education institutions, we've moved more toward American forms of writing courses or designing programs. And I wondered what your feelings were about that original vision? I'm having a stronger sense that perhaps there's more validity in that, to attempt to think about how one would design a program of education around single artists, rather than some overview of an ideal form of art education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=715.0,788.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a question of growing because we had, you know, very strong ideas about things in expressive arts particularly, and then we have to found-- we found that we have to tune ourselves to the environment of American educational system. And I don't see any particular problems there. You see it's a question of way we develop further strength and a further sense of confident within ourselves. There is plenty of room to experiment and extend, then we have enough footing so that you can dance with it. So that's the kind of idea. It's a question of growing up first and become visible, Naropa Institute become visible in educational world. And then we don't just stop there. And ordinarily the regular universities stop there, and they are dying to, you know, cook up new ideas about [UNCLEAR: the situation?] having found it difficult to do so. But in our case there is unfolding possibilities keep on happening. So I think we sort of grow up and then we extend ourselves which can be workable. It's depends on the confidence that the, you know, teachers be projecting to the students and that kind of thing. I suppose that applies the other disciplines too. Well certainly Naropa is still in sort of teen and hasn't got old yet, and I don't think it ever will. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=788.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: THEATER UPDATE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What next? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Do you want to hear from all the departments?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well some I'd like, maybe one more or so.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] Lee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=905.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: The thing that comes up to my mind first is that it seems like the theater program creates Buddhists and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Creates?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Buddhists.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: [Laughs] Can you hear me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=926.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: And the problem with that is that once a person has become a member of Karma Dzong there are so many other priorities that are really essential, that theater then begins to be difficult to find time for. So my initial idea of having some kind of extension beyond Naropa, for people who had been through the program and wanted to stay in Boulder and had found some good experiences with doing theater, has to be re-thought in the light of the fact that there's so much theater going on that one hardly needs to do little plays or [laughing] reach an audience beyond the community itself. I'd say that at least two-thirds of your people that have been through the program are interested in doing theater and interested in staying in Boulder and interested in practice and so on. But I don't know how to suggest a way of allowing them to do the theater part. So that's one thing that I had get--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you talking in terms of--\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you talking in terms of students or--\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=939.0,1028.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: The other problem is that I seem to be the core faculty for the theater program. And while there's plenty of theater people coming in in the summer, there's nobody else in the winter time, which means that one of the things that I'd like to do which is teach electives is impossible to do with teaching two core programs. And so I have to find somebody to come and be another core faculty in the theater, and yet I don't know anybody offhand who right now has some kind of sense of practice in relation to theater. So that it means bringing in artists to do their artistic part, but not any ongoing kind of sense of why meditation would be a useful thing for the art form.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1028.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well what you think people's understanding-- student's understanding of theater as whole?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1094.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: I think that mostly the people that come to the theater program have very little interest in becoming professional actors, but they have some sense of themselves as being performers in their life. And I try and encourage them to think of their life in some sense as a performance or at least that they are actors within their lives. Then the performance aspect comes sort of as a, oh I don't know, little sort of stopping off place for a night on the journey, so to speak, rather than the kind of rainbow at the end of the trail. Which is nice, because in this environment there isn't much of a financial gain to be made by doing theater. But mostly they seem to understand their theater practice as a means for exploring who they are and what is going on in relationship to other people and in relationship to space. And they come in having that as an idea. I'd say this year, there are ten new students in the first year, and I feel very good about all of them, as that coming into Naropa for the-- that reason, not having to be told that, and then starting from there so that right away we can start working from that emotion. It's wonderful. And that's another reason why they become Buddhists in two years. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1114.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the practice and theater putting together again will make unusual, in some sense, kind of theater discipline. And also that we have somewhat our own tradition and our own culture which is kind of expressing real world, so to speak, [laughs] through techniques like theater. And I don't see particular problems there. The only problem is vigorous practices of theater and vigorous practice of meditation had to be balanced together. And also some kind of idea of-- sort of bodhisattva idea of sharing with other people because theater could be very catchy. I mean it's-- it has its own quality which is gets to people much faster in some sense. So probably we should, you know, take advantage of that and look at from that angle. At the same time that as we evolve more with more people, that we begin to learn ourselves how to extend and how to learn from what we have done, you know, and it sort of expand by itself that way. And hopefully that, as well as the others, that Naropa Institute could become a theater-maker. [Laughs] How is it-- what did they say in the newspaper article?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Maker for the arts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maker for the arts. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1222.0,1356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: PSYCHOLOGY UPDATE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Psychology.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Psychology. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1356.0,1363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EDWARD PODVOLL: There have been a number of changes in the psychology program; some sense we re-worked a good deal of it. There are about fifty students all told now. And whereas the program used to ride the crest of three summers, we've had the confidence to be able to start the program in the winter and run continuously through the next two consecutive summers. The other change has been a greater emphasis on practice: dathun is required in the program, and it's generally well-known and accepted that sitting practice is the core of the program. What that has brought about somewhat, is that the students that are interested in the program and that are applying now all seem to have made some connection with a contemplative discipline upon arriving here. So there's no more tension about that; we don't have to talk them into practicing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1363.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EDWARD PODVOLL: The other change is that it's become somewhat more practically-oriented, such that students come here with the expectation that they'll eventually be working with people for a living.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1438.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EDWARD PODVOLL: I think the program is absolutely unique in American psychology. We've been getting some feedback to that effect and a continuous stream of interest from both students and professionals about that. In that regard a number of very accomplished therapists have been willing to sort of risk themselves and come out here and teach during the summers.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1460.0,1493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EDWARD PODVOLL: So that the caliber of teaching, in summers particularly, is actually extraordinary for a masters program in psychology.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. So how many students we have now?\r\n\r\n\r\nEDWARD PODVOLL: About fifty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1493.0,1517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well I suppose the practice situation builds up very much of psychology studies and there is a very close link with psychology and Buddhism. And in the past Buddhism came to being because of psychology studies people made, and that kind of thing. But still there could be emphasis on the practice of meditation is not that of practicing religion but working towards sanity and that emphasis seem to be very important. And generally as the community here becomes more religious-oriented as the teachings be presented in a more sort of full level, and maybe there had to be some kind of special accommodation to the students of psychology that the-- their attitude should be taken from a hinayana point of view much more so than influenced by vajrayana -- although apparently it's very impossible for us to do that. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1517.0,1635.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TRUNGPA RINPOCHE REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's good. I don't have much to say about from what we have encountered which is-- felt very, very full and good. However, that one thing we have to consider is Naropa Institute is more of a way of life rather than a struggle. And some sort of building up a spirit and some sense of cheerfulness in what we are doing is the key to it. And particularly being a teacher in a very, very effective situation that you can influence a lot of people. So that I think sort of personal sanity, that needless to say, is the key to it, and also that we have come up with a new approach of this year's approach is what's known as being genuine. [Laughter; laughs] And that's very important. The traditional way, it seems, that in lot of teachers tend to fake informations and presentations and make something up and teach that and test on the students. And when the students are begin to get affected by it, then the teacher begin to get confirmation back and feeling that afterward this may not be faking at all, so then there is that kind of mutual conspiracy goes on. In the Tibetan tradition people very shy of being teachers.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Excuse me, can I have your car keys, please? [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1635.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And in fact sometimes that has become problem. That being teacher means there's a lot of respect, that somebody who influences people's life. And also it's elder -- somebody who is sane and well-disciplined themselves so you can teach others that way. So that's the traditional thing. So since we are approaching from the Buddhist angle, it would be very good that if we could be genuine rather than riding on the echo and perpetuating our mutual trip. But at the same time if you be genuine and direct, there will be constant vision and constant inspiration begin to come up; for the very reason that you feel wholesome because we be genuine, we feel we are being true and honest, and that gives a lot of strength. And also a sense of delightness comes with that as well because then we don't have to worry about anything particularly -- we are wholly, fully what we are and that's what we doing. So you feel a hundred percent of something. And that strengthens and that helps a lot, and that also spreads the sanity to students as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1812.0,1953.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when we go through financial crisis and administrative problems, that sometimes that kind of worry and concern begin to effect everybody and begin to become slightly depressive, and we should not let that happen. And there's no reason that that should happen particularly. And, as I said already, that Naropa Institute is still growing up and hopefully will never get old. And some kind of pioneering job we're trying to do in not only just trying to present Buddhism in this country through all sorts of ways and means alone, but seem to be that our role and our aim is to create the world which is sane and delightful and powerful. So that seem to be our aim, altogether. If you can call that \"enlightened society\" or whatever you wish. And I think it's very possible we can do it single-handedly so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=1953.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in order to do that of course we have to work with people. It's the only resources that there is. And also everybody should share the direction -- that future direction where we be going. And if there's any feeling of concern, or that direction we are taking is questionably weak or insane -- in any way -- from point of view of administration and teaching styles and student styles and everything, then please, you know, let me know so we can work better and what we can do about it. So that seem to be important point. And also thank you very much you've been wonderful in my absence. [Laughs] And we will work together again. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2082.0,2152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: FACULTY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] What next? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2152.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD: We discussed the strength and direction of Naropa Institute at the Board of Directors meeting yesterday. And we felt that it's become very important at this point for the core faculty -- which is I guess most of the people here, you know who you are -- to really have a central role in determining the programs, the faculty, the teaching approaches, of Naropa. So this is, in a way, just a formalization of what's been going on all along in some sense, but also a strengthening of it. That we'd like to regard the core faculty group as the faculty committee, the program committee, which we meet quite regularly. Bill and I will join it all the time. This will be a parallel committee with the Executive Committee, this point, that the two will feed each other. The Executive Committee from the point of view of administrative questions, budget and space, and the all things you know about so well; and in turn the Faculty Committee will have the sense of guiding the education programs and their mutual working together there between the two committees.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2170.0,2286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: Does this go into some kind of thinking in terms of making the summer an extension of the winter and spring, as opposed to such a different quality of everything? I mean is there something--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: That's up to the Faculty Committee to work on. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: [Laughing] Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: [UNCLEAR: Good question though?] .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2286.0,2313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Catalogs been prepared?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: The summer catalog is on its way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2313.0,2325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BILL MCKEEVER: In addition to the sort of formalization of the role of core faculty, I know one of the problems in the past has been the administrative support directly-- directed towards the work of the faculty. We haven't been able to make any major changes, but Ricky Spiegel's role has been highlighted as the focal point for faculty business and relation with the administrative affairs. And [UNCLEAR: Brie Hall? Reed Hall?] is just joining the administration this week to be administrative assistant for the Arts faculty and also to do a rehaul of the special events activities. [Laughter] And [UNCLEAR: Gayle Muller?] is departmental secretary, and Reggie continues as faculty chairman and spokesman for the faculty and programs regularly on executive committee.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: We should have our first meeting perhaps soon?\r\n\r\n\r\nBILL MCKEEVER: First meeting is scheduled for when, Reg?\r\n\r\n\r\nREGGIE RAY: It's next Wednesday, the fourth.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: I'd like to invite you to visit from time to time so that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. I would love to, yes. Definitely. Yes. [Laughs; laughter] Join the bandwagon. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2325.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: FINANCE DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: I do have one explanation rather than a question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2430.0,2446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: It certainly isn't depressing or anything like that, but, you know, I'm sure it's been covered many, many times. But I do hope-- that's why I'm putting it as an explanation rather than question -- I do hope the economic situation at Naropa brightens in the future. Because it has been difficult, for example, to attract faculty that we want to attract because of the-- basically the financial situation we [INAUDIBLE]. I don't know from what direction that's going to come -- but that has been a problem I think. I don't think I'm speaking only for the Poetics.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: Because it translates itself in so many different areas, like space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2446.0,2486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Absolutely, yes. Well, by thinking over by myself, and the comparing Naropa Institute with Vajradhatu, that looks to me if things could be properly engineered, that Naropa Institute would have less of a financial problem than Vajradhatu in some sense. So I'm thinking and working on such issues, and I'm sure we can do something about it. And we have to-- I have to still study the case history, so to speak, and that kind of thing, which is to me it's, you know, exciting in that way. It's obviously challenging that you have to worry about which the next 10,000 dollars is going to come from where, you know. Sometimes it's sort of dead end seemingly, but then you have to jump over the wall and then find another road on the other side. [Laughs] So I think can be done, you know. Actually I felt very positive about that. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL BROWNSTEIN: That's good to hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2486.0,2588.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SHAMBHALA TRAINING DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything else? Anybody has any remark?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I think there's a feeling that the Shambhala training and Shambhala vision has affected Naropa quite a lot. I'm wondering how that's going to continue and whether there will be any more practical formal connection between Shambhala training and Naropa Institute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2588.0,2623.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think we had some kind of uncertainty in the past, and particularly trying to maintain the particular kind of integrities of Naropa Institute of nonsectarian and non-discriminate students somewhat--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n--how to relate with Buddhist situations with Naropa Institute. But at this point with Shambhala training and Shambhala approach, and in fact Naropa Institute I think is the only instrument that we can use to effect-- to take Shambhala training effect. So probably some kind of training or some kind of presentation, and also Shambhala training style sitting practice, and that kind of thing will be presented. And that would make things much simpler in a way so that we have a definite kind of philosophy of Naropa Institute, which is not just purely trying to be Buddhist alone, but to some kind of commitment and dedication to bring about enlightened society. So it's taking place and you'll hear more about it I think. [Laughs] And that's been very helpful in a way, in many ways. Is there anything to say about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2623.0,2741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DAVID ROME: Well the problem with-- of having Naropa Institute accused of being Buddhist and therefore religious is an interesting one. I think from the-- Buddhist being nontheistic doesn't have the same sense of religion at all to begin with. Although as Rinpoche said earlier, once we begin to get into a lot of practices, not just of hinayana but the higher yanas, it does take on more and more the quality of religion, as far as the practitioners are concerned. But actually, the notion of presenting sanity is not particularly religious notion. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] It's a basic notion, but it might be so shocking to some people that they regard it-- that it must be religious fanaticism. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] So it's somehow knowing what we're doing there, which comes down to that quality of genuineness which might sound like an euphemism at this point -- but actually it's not. It could be very simple and true: what's a human being, what's genuine in being human, what's not.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2741.0,2854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: THEATER DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How long you going to be here? Both of you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How long am I going to be here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Through next summer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. That's good. And you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Until March. Right? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2854.0,2887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what's the story on Kingdom of Philosophy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: We're planning on doing the first act in June, and we have all kinds of fundraising ideas, doing the whole thing, but that probably wouldn't happen until the year from next June.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. First act, the complete first act?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good one, good beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah. The main hangup right now is the cost of the costumes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it shouldn't be all that difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: No, we have plans. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, the earrings and things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah, brocade, this and that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well you can silkscreen brocades. Very simple since it's you know on the stage you know. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah, it's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2887.0,2959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I thought of that actually when I was writing it, and that can be done. And you can choose certain particular kind of fabric, which is not all that expensive but it has brocade quality, the way it hangs. And there lots of a-- this is where synthetic materials becomes useful. 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Peter Goldfarb is doing a water festival.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah, he cornered me at the Boulderado.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2989.0,3055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEE WORLEY: Along with that, since I seem to be a part of both camps, the Naropa Theater and the Mudra Theater, I see them as very different things. But sometimes it feels like there's no need to have two things. That it could all be Mudra theater or... I don't know. The way I see it somehow is that Mudra Theater is in some ways more court theater, more for the Buddhist community. And that the Naropa Theater has more possibility of exploring plays of the past, present, and contemporary works built by itself, and that its audience isn't so much the Buddhist audience as it is a more general public. I'd like to sort of lay that out--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: --and see what you think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3055.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's-- that you are a hundred percent accurate. Yeah, that's true. Well that Mudra Theater has quite history, [laughs] way it begun and way it evolved. [Laughs] We never had one of those conference again.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Not yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But we-- people want to.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Yeah we want to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That would be very nice, and this time would be somewhat different.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: I hope so. [Laughs; laughter] But that would be one project that we could work on in conjunction with Naropa. And possibly not just Western theater, but Eastern theater as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah well there's lots of ideas.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WORLEY: Yeah, sure. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I'm afraid I didn't able to write a play. I promised to people in my retreat, but I was too lazy. But some of these-- one of these days, I will work on it; may be a very quick one. 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Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And we'll do some work with Abhidharmakosha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3202.0,3230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: And of course vinaya.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vinaya, yeah, which--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [UNCLEAR: Suttavibhanga?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah, mhmm. I think people should study about the vinaya as well. It's key to it, it's key to the whole thing. We seem to be developed a kind of yogic style of situation, but I was hoping eventually within that situation that we could develop a hundred percent traditional monasticism out of that, which is in the works and trying to figure that out and how to work on that. And I think main point is that my idea is to make sure that the sangha or the bhikkhus are not involved with economy, not involved with politics at all. And they could remain just like the early Buddhists you know, just pure monasticism where the politics and the money and things can be taken care of by the yogis. So that's the-- [laughter] that's the idea. And there will be interesting. People should know more about vinaya you know, because yogis seem to have much more access to the world and also their basic practice supposed to be overcoming and actually combating with the temptations directly, whereas monasticism in some sense has a kind of element of they are building a pure world and so that trying to make some kind of separation there. It will be interesting undertaking. Have you visited to Southern Buddhist countries anywhere?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3230.0,3362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: I studied in India for a semester.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It's not a Buddhist country though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, mhmm. Been to Bodhgaya?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, you should have gone there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: When I was in India I wasn't interested in Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see. [Laughs; laughter] Yeah. Did you-- what did you do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Studied Gandhian philosophy and Upanishads.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, well that gives quite a good background to start Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I went there from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3362.0,3396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. You go to Shantiniketan while you were there? Yeah? You did?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh! That's what I thought. [Laughs] Yeah. You visited South India?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3396.0,3409.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or been to ashram or place there? Oh? Mmm. [Laughs] Yeah. Well the nonviolence philosophy was very effective to the British. I don't know if we did that in-- Tibetans try to do that as well with the Communists, but they didn't pay much attention to it, they just ran over altogether. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It took years with the British too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. [Laughs] What's happened to Shantiniketan these days?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It was ten years ago when I was there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. You didn't have any connections lately?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3409.0,3472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. I see. Did you study Hinduism, hatha yoga, and that kind of practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Some hatha yoga. More I was interested in Hindu mythology and Sanskrit. [UNCLEAR: Samati?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You speak Hindi?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I used to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3472.0,3496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well we hope to develop some kind of language-- strong language center here, concentrating on Sanskrit and Tibetan basically. And it has its problems of course [laughs] but we are definitely trying to do that. Would be very necessary I think. Have you met any of the translating teams?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I'm going there this evening--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --to the Translation House.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that will be interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3496.0,3558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40447/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we should meet again this way some point. Maybe we could have a further exchange of some kind, and just sort of further feedback from back and forth. That would be very helpful. Thank you for coming.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3558.0,3585.14938"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780112VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=0.64,2.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=2.19,4.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Naropa Institute,\nMeeting with Core Faculty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=4.48,9.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on January 12th, 1978.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=9.1,13.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI auto-remaster\nmade November 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=13.06,20.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nHow's it going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=24.03,26.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought we could have just\na kind of a discussion together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=28.01,35.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is part of my homework,\nso to speak,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=35.31,40.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that trying to study what's\nbeen happening in my absence","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=40.17,45.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and also what we can do further\nwith Naropa Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=45.28,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So would be very helpful\nif you can--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=50.0,54.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of you can give\nsome sort of feedback as to--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=54.29,61.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or any questions related\nwith that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=61.69,68.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where shall we begin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=74.65,75.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=75.88,77.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=77.19,79.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD: Well, [laughs]\nwe have Dance,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=80.43,87.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=87.39,91.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhist Studies,\nand 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Mhmm.\n[INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3364.62,3365.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/918","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: It's not a Buddhist\ncountry though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3365.82,3367.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/919","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nNo, mhmm. 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You did?\nSPEAKER15: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3398.99,3400.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/934","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh!\nThat's what I thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592#t=3400.2,3401.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76157/file/163592/transcript/40448/annotation/935","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughs]\nYeah. 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