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Sense of oneness, bliss, visions, give ways to deities becoming irritating. Dissolving of ego in bardo creates less conditioned experience; even peaceful deities have ruthless, unyielding quality. In daily life, unexpected emotions, chaos, can awaken from absorption in ego, show nature of mind, reality. In the same way, perceiving the visions can deliver one into open space without ego. It is important to know the nature of their perceiver. In extensive Q\u0026amp;A, audience asks in-depth, insightful questions. Topics include mind-body relationship, nature of struggle, brilliant vs. dull colors in bardo, value of studying Tibetan Book of the Dead. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Tibetan Book of the Dead","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD: Commentary: The Nature of the Visions (edited excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-tibetan-book-of-the-dead-1540.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 15 2019 to Nov 29 2023 Transcribing: Harry Einhorn Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick, JP Glutting\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk on perceiver in bardo; being without ego and its habitual impulses allows to perceive properly. Sense of oneness, bliss, visions, give ways to deities becoming irritating. Dissolving of ego in bardo creates less conditioned experience; even peaceful deities have ruthless, unyielding quality. In daily life, unexpected emotions, chaos, can awaken from absorption in ego, show nature of mind, reality. In the same way, perceiving the visions can deliver one into open space without ego. It is important to know the nature of their perceiver. In extensive Q\u0026amp;A, audience asks in-depth, insightful questions. Topics include mind-body relationship, nature of struggle, brilliant vs. dull colors in bardo, value of studying Tibetan Book of the Dead.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Book of the Dead held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number five, held September 28, 1971. This is an ARP digital remaster made March 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Tibetan Book of the Dead, held at Tail of the Tiger in September 1971. This would be talk number five, September 28th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=0.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking about the nature of the visions that-- possible visions that develop in the bardo state, such as like, visions of peaceful and wrathful divinities and its basic qualities that we discussed yesterday. I hope that everybody's quite clear on that subject. And then now, that we also have to talk about the perceiver of such vision, as well at the same time. That since we discussed these brilliant colors, and the sound that comes along with the vision is not purely made out of substance nature, which need maintenance from a point of view of a perceiver, but they just happen as non-- as expression of silence and expression of emptiness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=36.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is another situation of body and centralized ego. Which plays important part in perceiving such elaborate mandalas; that a person cannot be-- in order to perceive them properly, a person cannot have fundamental ego. And when we talk about a fundamental ego in this case, it's that which causes to meditate, or perceive something. In other words that you could have a great deal of revelation -- of god, or external entity -- if there is definite perceiver. And that perception can extend as far as to the level of almost non-dualistic way. And such perception becomes very blissful, and very pleasant. Because there is not only watcher but it's something more subtle than a watcher. There is basic spiritual entity. There's a basic subtle concept, or impulse, which looks outward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=152.0,294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what perceives by it is-- what he perceives is that the expressions of one with the cosmos, or one with the universe. And that impulse begin to perceive such beautiful dream, beautiful idea of wideness and openness, and blissful. Something extremely tangible. And also that invites some kind of notion of oneness. Oneness in the sense of that definite perception of, \"Me, opening to the cosmos.\" There is-- therefore one tend to feel the openness and wideness of the cosmos, could become very easy and very comfortable to get into. It's like returning to the womb; that kind of security develops. And of course person speaks beautiful languages as well. Because of such inspiration of union. And be loving and kind, naturally. In such state that you could perceive some form of divine vision, quite possibly; actual vision. Or person could perceive flashes of light, or music playing or some presence is approaching to you. And those all things could happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=294.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in this case if such person relate himself that way, and his projections that way, possibility is in after death period or bardo state, that there is a tendency to be extremely irritated to see the tathagatas' vision, which is not dependent on your perception, or tathagatas' vision doesn't ask for oneness at all. It's terribly hostile it seems. I mean so far that we been trained and brought up to communicate with whatever hallucinations comes, and we achieved hallucinations to be our companions, our friends. In the vision of tathagatas that somehow they are just there. Irritatingly there, because they won't react to your attempt of any kind. And moreover the first vision comes, is it been said, is the peaceful divinities, visions of peaceful divinities. And there again when we talk about peacefulness, it's not peacefulness in the sense of the love and light experience that we've been going through. But peaceful in the sense of completely, completely encompassing peace. Unmovable, invincible peace; that peaceful state cannot be challenged. Peaceful state has no age or no end, no beginning. The symbol of peace is represented in the shape of circle -- there's no entrance; it's eternal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=450.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And not only in the bardo experience after death alone, but in during lifetime, in our living situation, that similar experience could occurred, constantly. And when the person is dwelling on that kind of everything's beautiful and peaceful, loving, and union with cosmos and so on. And there is possibilities of some other element comes into the whole being. Exactly the same as the vision of peaceful divinities, in the daily life situation. That when a person begin to discover there is possibilities of losing your ground, losing the whole union completely, and possibilities of losing identity, as me and myself and ego. Which is a very peaceful thing. Very pacifying and dissolving into utter and complete harmonious situation. Which is of course the glimpse of experience of clear light. Is absolutely peaceful, and state of peaceful doesn't contain any conditions, which seems to be extremely frightening. And there is often possibilities of person's faith will be shaken by such sudden glimpse of another dimension, of even the concept of union is not applicable anymore. Of their particular practice doesn't seem to hold ultimate truth or ultimate salvation. Doesn't come from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=586.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And not only that experience of clear light alone but there's also another type of that experience of ruthless peaceful state. Is the experience of the wrathful divinities, is the-- another expression of the peacefulness. Is the ruthless quality of the peaceful. That non-yielding and not giving any material, sidetracks of any kind at all. And if you approach and try to re-shape any situations the situation throw you back. And that kind of situation happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=716.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's the-- seems to be actual living situation with the emotions is another truth. That somehow, everything's union, everything's united, everything's beautiful and peaceful, harmonious, doesn't hold final truth, because whenever there is a sudden eruption of energies, in terms of aggression or passion, any conflicts of living situation, suddenly something wakes you up. That's the kind of wrathful quality of the peacefulness. Which also happens in everyday life situation, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=760.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the possibilities of absorbed in the ego, like that, is that brings another situation of complete blind to the actual reality of the nakedness of mind, and reality of the colorful aspect of emotions. And situations have to wake you up anyway, somehow or other. That waking up process could happen in a very violent way. Sudden accident or sudden chaos in the life; some kind of that reminder tend to happen constantly. When person is involved into ego-manufactured comforting situation of *any* kind, there is the absence of ego, the anti-ego. Reminding situation occurs, happens, it shakes you. Of course the possibility is that you can always ignore such possibilities of actually they're-- even if they are reminders. But one can always go on believing the original idea that we would like continue or go on believing in it. One could go on and on and on. Until final egohood is achieved. And then there will be sort of a direct, open battle sort of thing, with the actual living situation and egohood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=803.0,908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the nature of the concept of leaving the body, in The Tibetan Book of the Dead, in terms of bardo experience, symbolically could be seen. And leaving the body, and entering into clear light, and woken up from clear light, and then you perceive these visions on the third bardo state. Is that person is delivered into such open space, space even without body to relate to at all. Even space that-- such open space that you can't have the notion of union either, because there's nothing to be united with, or united by. So whole open is-- whole space is completely opened. But there is one thing that is-- as is some, sort of flashes of energies, floating, which either could be diverted, or either could be channeled in. And that's the definition of mind in this case, is the energy, gullible energy. That energy could be diverted into another situation or energy could be turned into a rightful situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=908.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And possibilities of that if person would be able to free themselves into sambhogakaya level of five tathagata realms, is very much depend on if there's any attempt to play the same game constantly. Or if there's no temptation of playing the same game at all. It's purely based on *that*. And such experience of, vivid and colorful experience, happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1011.0,1058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also at the same time that this energy remains in the bardo state also experiences the playing back of six realms of bardo experience as well, constantly. So six realms of bardo experience coincided with each tathagatas, five tathagatas, in the vision happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1058.0,1096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think a very important point is that we should understand more and definitely about the nature of that perceiver. The perceiver to the six realms of world. Or the perceiver of tathagatas. They are one state. But at the same time they are-- they have different styles. And such experience happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1096.0,1154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seems that the idea of perceiver of the tathagatas in such kind of mind, has tremendous ability to keep link between the body and the mind. Physical body and mind. Very easily, very spontaneously. This is in terms of everyday life situation. In other word, there's no diversion between spirituality of the mind or the spirituality of the body, are both being the same, so there's no conflict. Physical relating with situations become also part of the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1154.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It says that the first time when you woken from the unconscious absorption into the body, after you woken that up, you have a visual experience of minute, and precise and clear, luminous and terrifying or paranoia-ing [sic], rather. And, like perception of seeing mirage in the spring field. And also you have the sound, which is like a thousand thunders rolling at same time. With the self, sort of, perpetuating, tremendous deep hum. And in the mental state is that, that there is looseness and detached feeling. Of sort of empty, and at the same time, overloaded with intelligence, which makes a kind of, as though person possess head without a body. That gigantic head floating in space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1252.0,1405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the sort of actual visual experience of those state of bardo, in terms of preparation to perceiving tathagatas' vision, is that there is faint but clear and intelligent, and luminous feeling. But at the same time intangible. It's like being in the mirage yourself rather than watching the mirage. So, not knowing where you are exactly. And that experience, visual experience or sensual experience, is also happen in the same instance in audible situation as well. Deep sound, roaring at the background. Earth-shaking. But at same time there's nothing to vibrate to, so whole thing becomes very deep and very faded, sort of... deep sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1405.0,1491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, a similar situation could also happen in a living situation as well. Although that absence of physical body in the bardo experience are more clear and more hallucinatory, but in a-- during life situation that you don't have the *extreme* aspect of the mirage as such. But you have the some kind of basic... basic desolate quality. Glimpse of basic desolate quality, and loneliness flickering, experience when person begin to realize that there's no background area to relate to myself as \"ego\" and \"me.\" When the sudden glimpse of egolessness comes there's that kind of shakiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we could have a discussion on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1491.0,1561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in life, noticing these things in life, does this tend to be as short visions, or can there be lasting situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Of luminous and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --not knowing -- as in a mirage.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in the living situation you get just very faint element of the visual quality of them. But actual kind of experiential quality is the same thing. That the feeling of no ground. No final things to relate to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1561.0,1614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is this the same as what we were talking about bewilderment in some other time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so yes. Definitely, yeah. Bewilderment could run into two situations, of bewilderment to realization, and bewilderment to confusion. But neutral bewilderment vibrates there constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1614.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In a life situation, when would one be most prone to experience this egoless state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With any situations, always. Any kind of attempt to solidify oneself, brings the opposite of that, constantly. Particularly whenever there is tremendous struggle, begin to put on. And some stages such struggle becomes kind of confusing, that who is struggling and how to struggle. So overwhelming struggle. So you could say such situation can happen in tremendous speed. There's speed and then there's pattern of speed begin to break, and begin to pick up another more speed. It's like the experience could happen between changing of your gear shift, sort of thing. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you be aware of this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would it be an ego trip to be aware of this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you wouldn't be aware of it if it's ego trip. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1645.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would the images be the same for everybody, would they be universal, as they describe in the text?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure there is a different emphasis on different types of person. It wouldn't be exactly the same. But there will be roughly same kind of situation, like experience of falling asleep, would have some common quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1724.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, Christ said, \"I bring not peace but a sword.\" And when you're talking about the peaceful, the implacable quality of the peaceful tathagatas, I wondered if this were the same sort of thing that he was saying. I've often wondered what that meant, \"I bring not peace but a sword.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well any kind of advanced person who try to bring ultimate state of peacefulness, had to come up with definite ground of course. Always, happens that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1755.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you relate the colors that they speak of? The dazzling colors as the peaceful deities -- the dazzling blue, red, yellow, so forth. And with each one there was a dull color. And it seemed in reading the book that there was \"a decider\", who was going to avoid the dull colors. And it seemed to me that... that was very hard to relate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --the fact that that part of it [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly. You see that's exactly what I'm trying to get at, is you have dazzling colors, sort of repelling -- has a repelling quality. Apparently a repelling quality. And the dull colors have inviting quality. And some of the choices made by the intensity of those two situations there, they create the situations. Whether you feel still forward whenever there is irritating and dazzling color comes, you still go through it. And if there is no forward-going natural situation within your state of being already, then you're attracted by the others. So in other word those two situations, of the visions, create situations for you, sort of thing. And I suppose that person could be, by sort of, by understanding such ideas, of the tathagatas, and other situations, that you would have some sort of positive quality involved in your state of being. Which really makes the choice. But it's no choice of for or against, but it's a choice of just positive thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So in other words the things that you're-- that are going down into the six worlds, that are in you, you just essentially are going to go through that, in a choiceless sort of way, you're just going to sometimes...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well these--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --follow one course and sometimes another--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The point is that these experience reoccurs all the time. Every day, every week. You have two alternatives happens every day. Constantly. According to the book, for-- until seven weeks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1801.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, yesterday you said that we really don't have any-- we're-- we live in a choiceless state actually, we just react, more or less mechanically. But we have the-- we still have the decision whether or not to completely surrender. And I went home in that one and got very confused. I mean why, or how, if there's no other decisions that can really be made, is surrendering any different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the surrendering makes tremendous differences. Surrendering to the choicelessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But isn't that just mechanical--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you don't struggle any more.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Isn't that as mechanical as struggling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all. Then you have the independence, freedom, from the choicelessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=1991.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: If you didn't to do anything, when confronted with the dazzling colors, does that mean you'd automatically go-- be sucked into them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] I suppose you could say that, yeah. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2043.0,2068.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche you said that body is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah would that always lead you back to clear light? Like they keep saying through the whole book, you know, if you can recognize, when you hear that sound fading away you've already missed it, and if you can recognize the visions as the clear light and if you can recognize even entering the womb as the clear light, like any time that you really can melt with it, blend with it, so that there's nothing there, you'd be just swept back up again? Or any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Back up to clear light you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Or in again or out again or-- in other words you always have that fear, when it happens it happens so fast you have that fear, and then it's gone. But if you got rid of that, if you really relax, would that just...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on individual situations, of how open the person is. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2068.0,2120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would that be grasping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one? Which one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The one that you just mentioned -- fear; it sounded like fear of losing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fear of losing, yeah, that's-- depends on how much pressure you put in. If you put more pressure you lose the grip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2120.0,2156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said that body mind have to share the same kind of spirituality -- I mean it is of the body and of the mind, in the life situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And I was just wondering, you know whether the body affects the mind or the mind affects the body in that relationship. I mean whether there's some insecurity of the mind or of the body or something that sort of prevents the maintenance of the vision.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, definitely. Particularly insecurity comes from the separateness of it. There's-- if there's a tendency to confusing -- confusion. Or the separateness, of the body and separateness of the mind. Then one's losing, sort of a grounding to Earth. Or the one is losing kind of dignity, or precision. And problem rises because of that. And as long as there is some basic confidence, or actual realization, of that-- they are sort of co-existing, then there will be no conflict at all, you know, no pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So would yoga help that kind of realization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on whether there you-- there's a conflict already or not. You see if you have the attitude of body is separate, and body have to help the mind, that's-- there's a big gap. It's like sort of going through a \"middleman\".\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well most of us have problems with our bodies for one reason or another, and the body reacts to life situations and the body becomes a kind of a barrier in a way. Because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean same thing with the mind of course.[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2156.0,2307.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, do these-- does this choice between the dazzling lights, the dazzling colors and the duller lights, do these alternatives present themselves constantly, or only at particular points where there is possibility of egolessness, involved in the play of the situation. In other words, is the-- are the dazzling colors perceivable, only when there's already a big gap.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think they are only perceivable when there is uncertainty. Which is the egolessness. And they in fact reinforce the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Reinforce the uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, uncertainty reinforce the dazzling light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2307.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: In the ordinary life situation, how are they related to just, actual colors like that red or that yellow, or things like that? Blue sky. [Laughter] No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: No relation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean I--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: To what you actually see?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the fundamental irritating, fundamental sort of exposure to world. As though you're irritated by a dazzling color -- which *is* color. It's a question of exposure more than literal colors.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Oh not actual literal color, but exposure to situations that have a certain kind of-- different kinds of vibrations.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Or you could say in terms of colors. Or there's another possibilities of not confronting that and manipulating yourself and trying to work with less tense one. Which always happens. It's in other word taking the chance or... compromise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So the colors are emotions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Anything irritating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Overwhelming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2381.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: Well what's the difference between irritating, and exciting? I mean in -- take an everyday life situation where something comes along with-- that you have a choice between something that's dangerous [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] and new and exciting, or not so dangerous and not so new, not so exciting. I mean is that, you know, that could also be a trap, couldn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There could be yes. But somehow that survey-- happens on the facade level, and haven't quite attached to the heart of it. The actual fundamental irritation is something that applies to the maintenance of ego, or decide to give up, maintaining. I mean if there's a new situation, exciting situation, somehow that's only seen from a very superficial point of view. Because you don't actually haven't had the exposure -- complete exposure of fundamental quality in them. So excitement is sort of facade. And overwhelming and irritating is more fundamental. The question of survival begin to come up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2484.0,2556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, Christ said, \"I go to-- in my father's house there are many mansions. I go prepare a place for you.\" What place was he talking about, within this model that you're presenting us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did he say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: \"In my father's house there are many mansions, and I go to prepare a place for you.\" He's talking about his death, and why he was dying. \"I go to make a place for you, my father.\" Talking to his disciples.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: And the-- to Christians this is vastly inspiring, and promising a heavenly rebirth of type, he's guaranteed them by going to make this, make the space for them or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sort of invitation, do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: More of-- more than an invitation. A promise actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Promise, yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: The reason I'm asking is because we-- a lot of our friends are Christians and we have to relate to them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: [Laughing] So if you could tie it together, because I'm sure there's a thread of sanity that runs through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah. Well... I mean, it's-- talking in terms of promise, it's really-- in fact a *outrageous* promise. That when we talk in terms of, you could still lose your identity but you-- lose your ego and everything that we care for. But still there is a positivity happening, beyond that. And that's very profound promise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What did he say? I mean, is he talking about the realm of the gods, or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shouldn't be. It should be more like the visions of tathagatas, or transcending ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2556.0,2692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: You said that these states could come while you're shifting gears. But are they more likely to come during meditation, or is there no way of preparing for it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you still drive while you're meditating as well. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yes. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] There's constant speed, and different types of things going on in meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2692.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, it seems to me that after death is the same thing that while we're alive because it's saying, \"Here look at this,\" and then we say, \"Oh no, I don't like that, I'll turn to something else.\" But in the death-- in the intermediate state, you can't say that you'll turn to something else. Because there's the facts right there. Now when we're alive, and in meditation and so forth, we still don't want to accept to say that, \"This is the situation. And we must face it.\" We still run away, we still run away from it. And we take an easier way out. And then when we're in a dying situation, we're in the same situation, and we can't take an easy way out. Now what I'm saying is I know I can't ask for a ready made formula. But I'd say, \"I want a prescription, and I don't want a prescription.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well... your understanding is good as mine. So-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Well you understand more than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no. [Laughter] You are much older than me and you had more choices, you had more choices.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: No, I first found out recently. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In other word, if I ask you the question why'd you tell me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Oh I can't... [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. It's exactly the same as what Milarepa says, that, \"When I-- since I--\"-- something like, \"Since I've thought of death, or made friend with death, now I'm not afraid of actual death.\" So it seems the same thing happens in the lifetime, that if we-- if you regard the situation in lifetime is exactly the same situation as death situations, then you have-- doesn't seem to have any difficulties in terms of death. Because that's just some actual situation that you already knew is coming to completion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2717.0,2900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, in a life situation, there's lots of unexpected events that happen, it seems there are two alternatives: to avoid it, get paranoid; or just to face it, to see the way it is. And with myself I've been able to face the situation, a sudden situation, there's no confusion, when you face it. In fact there seems to some logic, some kind of harmony, and it seems to just kind of dissolve. I'd like to know, that type of experience, of going right through, is that based upon ego too, that type of feeling of well-being when you face a conflict, and you just see it, it's not a conflict. Is that ego create-- is that kind of gapping through?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- I think this happens begin with the ego. But certain stage that ego is going to react against to it. And it's like meditation, that at the beginning you start with ego. And that's starting with ego. Although ego feels spiritually safe, or whatever it's may be, you know there's some comfort situation is provided for the ego, and ego's version of spiritual comfort. But we can't, you know, play a game of that, trying to make start perfectly, completely. So one have to start with imperfection, so there is no danger, doesn't seem to be, there's no danger, but we have to still do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=2900.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You can't play a game with fear like either. I mean you can't-- your spiritual advisor can't prepare you for that, you can't do anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No you can't do anything, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3000.0,3014.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: In the Zen tradition, there are many stories or histories of guys who considered death just to be a joke. You have one guy standing on his head because no one else had ever done it before, so he balanced himself on his head and then died. Another guy who was ready to die and his daughter tricked him into walking to look out the window and then she died instead and made him wait a week, and stuff like this. Do we have the same humor showing through in the-- because the Bardo Thodrol seems to take the whole thing extremely seriously. You know, which is understandable, I mean if it was... [Laughter; laughs] At this point it's pretty understandable. But then there is that point of view too where--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: --where it's just more play, somehow, you know like, the guy standing on his head asks his disciples, you know like, \"How many people died in lotus position?\" They say, \"Quite a few.\" And he says, \"How about standing up?\" And he says, \"Well you know a few men have done it, great masters. What about standing on your head. No one's ever done that.\" So he immediately balances himself [INAUDIBLE]. Seems to be, you know, very lighthearted. Not this solemn entity that we find that within the Bardo Thodrol. I mean is there an aspect of play in the whole thing that you can...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that this book is the biggest joke. Trying to be serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3014.0,3107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Plus one's capacity for acceptance depends on what one what brought here with one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What one what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Brought with one, upon being born. Or is it something that can be in some way worked on and extended? Because you-- because this surrender, is-- doesn't seem to be something that comes at once. You want to surrender, and yet you can't, and then you can sort of piecemeal, a little more, or give up a little more. But I just wondered if it's already set, how much of it you are able to do? Or whether one can do something about really giving up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seems that-- it seems how serious we take of the surrendering process is stepping into situation, like clear light and other things. And if you regarded the whole thing as very deliberate step, then one have to also surrender the deliberateness as well at the same time. Like any practice, any spiritual practice. That a lot of problem comes from the deliberateness. And deliberateness makes the whole thing very difficult to surrender because there is relationship situation involved yourself and your process of action.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: I wasn't thinking of deliberateness because it seems to me that things happen without any planning. In fact one doesn't know what's going to happen. But there seems to be things happen and that the question seems to be how much one can allow it to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How much what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: One can allow it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well that seems to be deliberate in itself. How much one should allow it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Not should, can.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3107.0,3289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: But doesn't the just the publicizing the fact that there is a clear light, whoever wrote that book [laughter], doesn't he-- doesn't he add to our deliberations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that something could be said anything. That you are son of so and so; you've been born. Also makes deliberate, that you are child of somebody. I mean, any life situation's the same way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well what I mean is-- well I understood you talked about the skillful situation after having experienced clear light was just in terms of responding to situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: And it seems it that that fellow is too busy to go looking for the clear light, he's always-- and it just may occur to him. He's not looking to allow it or to cause it; there's no deliberation with him but he may have recurrent experiences of clear light. For him it's not necessary to even *know* of the clear light. It doesn't seem to-- for him having knowledge that there's something called the clear light doesn't seem to have anything to do with having the experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: He just practices, and it happens to him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well instead of what you're suggesting to us just to practice, you tell us about this thing to run after, and that causes us to want to run after it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well same that could be said about the practice as well then. [Laughs; speaker laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3289.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: Well, maybe the question the other way is, what's the value to us of studying The Tibetan Book of the Dead?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the value? Well, so the death happens in living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: Yes, but I mean so many of our questions have been concerned about this confusing thing of whether there's a choice, and the fact that but you seem to be saying there isn't. All this kind of thing. And if there isn't, then what's the value of studying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well to give up choice. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: The choice is an idea too, and it is a very highly publicized idea, in Western culture anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3402.0,3460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Rinpoche, I've-- I'm thinking perhaps the clear light is like the backdrop against which the whole de-liberation, or saying, \"not free,\" I'm saying \"liberate the spirit.\" De-liberate -- like, the whole life thing that somehow the human experience, somehow there-- is so heavy with all this... You know it's going away that, somehow that to find the way that's just a simple fact, that all around and everywhere is this lack of structure in all of things. And I guess I can't say it but that the clear light is perhaps the source and is part of this and also the sacredness anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the clear light is the ground where we operating. That atmosphere that we are breathing sort of thing. And there is constant experience of that, whenever there is gap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: So the vast truth really is the fact that in order to live, and operate within the clear light principle, one has to really investigate what the death thing is, like in The Tibetan Book of the Dead, it's presented this way, that way, but in-- we really have to die to the whole deliberation in this and that, and duality and everything, in order to live, actually. Which is like being in the clear light principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seeing the death situation in the living world, to realize that we are constantly dying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: It's like on this whole trip, from Los Angeles and everywhere, what everything, since I met you I think perhaps -- but I'm inclined not to give you the credit. [Laughter] I mean seriously, I think that part of this whole cast of characters is somehow or other is happening around me, to me, it's like I realize I've been collecting sunsets, sunrises, and cemeteries. And for some reason or other those cemeteries have no-- it's like, wow, I'm thinking, you know, all the dead people are in there. And thank god, I'm beginning to see that has no power but it's part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, they are living there. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Wonderful apartment. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3460.0,3668.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Is death bound to be painful? Is death bound to be painful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the same thing as if living is painful, and death is also equally painful. Because living contains death constantly. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3668.0,3700.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Would you speak more about the mind-body, because if the mind and body are really one, then -- well then, there can't be rebirth. In other words, on one hand because the mind and body are one, on the other hand something is going on after the body is finished.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is the living situation is created by body. And there is this constant mind-body situation. And often one loses faith in that. That maybe after all it's different. So therefore by helping the body, you might help the mind, because they're separate thing. Or vice-versa. And that kind of mind-body constantly goes on, even after death. That, in fact very important point is that you feel that you have to be reborn as some next situation is have a body, has-- body must have some situation to relate to. That's the sort of psychological longing, to be born again. So you carry your mind-body constantly. And physical body is just part of the house. Part of the landscape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3700.0,3832.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Is there a time-space location for the bardo, after-death bardo, so to speak?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Time and space?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Yeah, I mean like, it seems that all of us tend to be reborn here on Earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Well most people... I know the Buddhist book about having lives in other worlds, but most people whom you can-- even have faith in this book about previous lives, it speaks of earthly ones. Or in some other realm, but not on Mars or Venus, or some planet somewhere else, which exists within, I guess, this realm. I mean, because we can see them. Is that kind of a-- I mean is there a kind of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there? Is there world other than this?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Well, assuming there are Martians, are there possibilities of Martians being reborn as Earth people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I heard that-- the story before. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I heard that before, yeah. In fact they come to visit us and they become one of us. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: I mean like the Buddha said at one time that he came to enlightenment on many other worlds before this one--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure there must be another Earth, another solar system, a great deal; millions and billions of them, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And there will be another world, definitely. Our imagination isn't all that limited at all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: You mean other forms of manifested intelligence, rather-- they don't necessarily have to look like humans, but just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Intelligence that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could imagine all sorts of things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Yeah right, but still with intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah for sure. They imagines us. So we are here. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: We're imagining it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3832.0,3978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Does the fear of losing your body -- because you think your mind needs it in order to keep on going -- stem from the separateness between mind and body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: If your mind and body were one you wouldn't be afraid of what would happen to your body, at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you realize there is a mind-body situation constantly, there will be relatively less fear. But from absolute point of view of course, then you are losing the whole ground altogether, mind and body together, in terms of egolessness;that's the biggest thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Also, in other words being afraid of losing your body is the same as being afraid of losing your mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: But your mind can think about your body, whereas your body can't really think about your mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Body can perceive you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=3978.0,4031.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Yeah, but what I'm saying here, if you lose your body and your mind, or the mind-body, then that's it-- there's no you to...care, is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean, lose? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Well, they dissolve, or if they're not functioning, you're not functioning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, when we talk about body, we're not talking about that particular person with the dark hair. And what we are saying is the body *principle*, seeming is supposed to have arms, legs, and head. But that's the situation that we are in. When supposing if you are born on another planet, without arms and legs, and heads, then associated with that shape. But you still have a mind-body there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Same one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same thing altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4031.0,4098.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: What's that, like a constant ratio then, no matter what form it takes, it's just a ratio, an abstract--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's just sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Relationship--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: --that happens?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sort of functional sculpture. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: That's the form side of it, but what's the mind side then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just mind-body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: It's not so simple [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just psychophysical, existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4098.0,4127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Are you a Martian? [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: One never really knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4127.0,4144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Rinpoche could our daily-- our--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could our what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Our daily perceptions of the clear light be likened to flashes of intuition which we sometimes get?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Flashes of--\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Intuition. A sudden answer, or a relief to a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could...\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Could that be like a clear light experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's sort of primeval intelligence, primordial intelligence. Yeah, it's the energy within the clear light.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Well, I was thinking that the experiences of the peaceful deities are like seeing a part of the clear light. A lesser section, as if the clear light is all the colors in the spectrum put together. And perception of the separate colors is because you're now con-- in a state where you can only perceive parts of that spectrum. Is this so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The visions.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: The visions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's... when we talk about visions in this case it's not actual visions. But it's some sort of absolute dynamic quality, energy, which has characteristics, or character, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED OLIVE COLON: Well, in a daily situation, I mean how could you-- could you give us an example of a perception which is not of the clear light, is more of one of the peaceful deities, but in a life situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that peaceful deity quality is that sort of utter harmonious, and a completely sort of blank, in a sense -- peaceful or blank, whatever you like to call it -- without any possibilities of manipulating or sowing a seed in it, involved. It's kind of natural law of space. And people always come to such, you know, situations of that, the sudden discovery that-- more likely sudden discovery of egolessness. And sudden discovery of that you can't actually control anything, you can't sow a seed. It's absolutely peaceful, so peaceful that you can't plant any seed in it. There's no fertilizer at all. It's completely blank, sort of hopelessness in that sense. [Laughs] Which is irritatingly brilliant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4144.0,4343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: How about the deities, how do they appear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well they're different expression of that hopelessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Were they have, did-- are they anything like gods?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. I've been trying to tell that for a long time. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4343.0,4365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What Olive raised a question for me which is, that I every time I see that there's a flash of a intuition or meditative experience or clear light or something like that, it tends to take the shape-- or it seems at least theoretically set up, that it takes the place of-- it takes the form of a dissolution of whatever content you were involved in. Dissolution of the solidity of a particular knot, particular problem, a particular situational content. But it seems to me that there are definitely a whole cast of intuitions, which come in the form of a very definite content, like she said the answer to a particular life problem, or-- you pick up-- I'm losing a-- side-tracking there. But it seems that sometimes you take in something-- some very specific fact which is important, at a particular time. And it seems somehow to relate to the thread of history, of the particular mind-body that you happen to be involved in. And it seems a little bit difficult for me to understand at this moment, the kind of thing which dissolves content and leads into a blankness, nothingness, invincible peace, hopeless, from the point of view of ego planting a seed. And this kind of thing which gives you a very specific piece of information, which is very significant at that time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This hopelessness you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: No. Well what-- one thing seems to be the hopelessness which leads to blanking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Sort of emptying. And the other thing seems to present not a blank but a very specific point, a very specific thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's how we survive. I mean you can't survive without the space. Otherwise there will be constant sowing a seed, without rest.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: You can't survive without the space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Constantly sowing seed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: --what about when the particular fact, which may be significant has some-- it has some kind of significance but that significance doesn't relate to the specific situation. For instance, I'm very involved in a particular situation and all of a sudden, something-- some image hits your mind about something about yourself that seems very weighted with significance. It has particular color, taste, and smell to it which is very-- has very strong powerful effect on you, and may give you a lot of energy for a few days to refer to that image or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well sounds like wrathful deities. I mean these two alternates. The-- these two situations sort of maintains each other sort of thing. The peaceful deities not at all electric, but it's spacious, noncommittal, in some sense. Whereas the wrathful deities are extremely committal, and provoking, and energetic; terrifying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Terrifying in the sense of comforting. In a certain way, I mean it gives you something-- gives your ego something to do though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4365.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: You were talking about sowing the seed and I remember sometime back you saying that creation was neurotic, and I've wondered so much what you meant by that and if there were any connection here with the...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well creation in the case of anything comes up from impulse. Any sense of speed, is trying to catch the last moment or the first moment, constantly. Is-- it's not quite the same as the thing we've been talking about, the peaceful-- wrathful deities at all, it's-- it operates in a very smaller scale, much more smaller scale. And purely maintenance of one's own self.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: But what about the creation all around us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the physical creation around us?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Yes, or the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the absolute truth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: That's not neurotic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that is environment, purely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: That kind of creation is not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No-- no I wouldn't say that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: No, I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=4650.0,4738.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Rinpoche, is the not sowing of the seed, which is sort of a restful space, would that be like each night when a person goes to sleep, the deep state of sleep where they're not dreaming, which is supposed to be restful, and something that's necessary, otherwise you just wouldn't be able to go on, you'd just burn out your energies or whatever, would that be sort of the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that peaceful thing we've been talking about is more vivid than that. It's-- that's why it is been described as dazzling, irritating, so it's-- it happens in the gap in between the situations of life. That there is constant dead end, in which you have to somehow work your way through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: What happens when you wake up, like in a dream, in the middle of the night, and you're not fully awake but for like, maybe ten seconds, there are *dazzling* lights, and that's when you're awake--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: --you remember, then you go back to sleep. But you can't-- I mean there are dazzling lights, like it's not like the dream ones, you all of a sudden are woken up, and it's for an instant and then...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know. 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In fact there's greater energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=5110.0,5165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: You said, \"How far\"-- after the gap, \"How far one should assert one's ego, in order to maintain oneself?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: How far *should* one [laughing] assert oneself? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's, actions speaks louder than word. There's no plan, it happens. It's like how far you should run without resting. Some stage you can't manipulate, you just have to stop and take a breath.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=5165.0,5198.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Do you think then that maybe one of the methods of getting rid of the ego is just to keep feeding it until it bursts? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that what generally we do. One does.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One does.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Is that what we're doing when we're meditating then, we're just becoming insane egomaniacs, so that we have to rest, some way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in its own way, there is a spiritual concept of the ego. 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There is complete going-- complete sort of going end of the journey, of that particular period, is the clear light experience. And then journey contains also hope and fear. Which is not necessarily-- I mean that hope and fear has the quality of -- divine quality if you'd like to call it. So hope is the wrathful divinities and fear is the peaceful divinities from that point of view. That the energy activity of creating energy, and the moments of absence of energy, happens in a life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707#t=5247.0,5373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115839/file/219707/transcript/62565/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps we should end here. [Laughs, laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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