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Awakening always comes from within. Initial impetus are pervasive feelings of unrest, dissatisfaction, described here as the \"vanguard of the seed of enlightenment.\" We hope advice from doctors or gurus will solve dissatisfaction, but Trungpa Rinpoche frames unrest as actual seed of enlightenment, source of potential buddha nature. This is how the search begins. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains theistic approach as based on becoming something else; here it is seeing your qualities as expressions of wakefulness. In response to question about feeling guilty if not suffering, indicates a societal problem of always expecting to be happy, but here pain and pleasure both are pushing one toward sanity.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJul 29 2020 to Sep 07 2023 Transcribing: Mary Beth Kean Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz, Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe origins of buddha nature, or seed of enlightenment, are not external, but within oneself. Awakening always comes from within. Initial impetus are pervasive feelings of unrest, dissatisfaction, described here as the \"vanguard of the seed of enlightenment.\" We hope advice from doctors or gurus will solve dissatisfaction, but Trungpa Rinpoche frames unrest as actual seed of enlightenment, source of potential buddha nature. This is how the search begins. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains theistic approach as based on becoming something else; here it is seeing your qualities as expressions of wakefulness. In response to question about feeling guilty if not suffering, indicates a societal problem of always expecting to be happy, but here pain and pleasure both are pushing one toward sanity.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/209/500/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1696365118","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1696365098_19760423VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2709.57713,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/209/500/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1696365118","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/209/500/original/1696365098_19760423VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1696365101","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2709.57713,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760423VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760423VCTR1 - Public Seminar - KCL - Buddha Nature: The Seed of Enlightenment - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP Slate: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Buddha Nature, the Seed of Enlightenment, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number one, April 23rd, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is talk number one of Buddha Nature the Seed of Enlightenment ITS given at Karme Choling by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche on April 23rd, 1976. This will be talk number one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=0.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to welcome everybody here taking part in this ITS. This type of situation is created specially so that we could practice and also learn, which happens together. If we are completely lopsided with purely attending talk alone, that our ability to understand becomes questionable, and also it might lead us into very successive intellectual trips of all kinds. But at the same time, if we provide an atmosphere where that we could sit lot, practice lot, and we could listen, that our mind become clear, workable, and state of being, such as we are, become coherent, so there will be some kind of communication can take place between us. Not that particularly I have great and profound things to say, but, nevertheless, we could work together in the issue that's be presented for this ITS, which is, I think, [laughter] buddha nature. Is that so? Right? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=40.0,238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic idea of-- notion of buddha nature or seed of enlightenment is a nontheistic one. I would like to make that point quite clear. The notion of nontheism, this case, is that wakening can take place within in hundred percent. The notion of theism is wakening taking place with some kind of proclamation outside of your bedroom door. That you happen to be woken up by that proclamation. And in turn, you wake up according to the-- that particular noise that's been made outside your bedroom while you are fast asleep. Those are the two basic distinction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=238.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might say, at the same time, wakening within might need some kind of qualification to be woken up within. That's true, but nevertheless, it is *your* doing, rather than celestial beings from the attics coming down in the form of a ghost or owl, what have you. And they tumble down the house from the attic, [laughs] and it happens to make lots of noise, and finally we are woken up by the noise of the *attics*, the loft.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=380.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of buddha nature or the seed of enlightenment continuously trying to wake us up. Again, mind you, it is nobody's doing but our doing. The situations is such in ourselves that we have tremendous unrest within us. While we are falling asleep peacefully, still the nightmares are very active. Sometimes our snoring wakes us up. We snore so loud that we are woken up by ourselves. That's the theistic [sic: nontheistic?] situation. The snore is not injected-- interjected by anybody from the loft, but we snore ourselves with our throat, our body, expression of relaxation, expression of sleepiness, what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=467.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That snore, that nightmare still unrest situation is what's known as the vanguard of the seed of enlightenment. That we are basically very naive, utterly naive. We will think something will happen if I just purely follow the psychiatrist's or the doctor's or the guru's prescriptions alone. But somehow or other it doesn't happen at all. It happens in us, basically, that is to say, our life situation, way of our existence, in our particular surroundings that we have around us, which are usually not all that fantastic, glorious, magnificent. But they are maybe good with a tinge of questionability. That we feel sometimes even we are hassled by our own comfort, much as practices, religious trainings, and trips we might be engaging ourselves in. But nevertheless, those things we take on upon ourselves become another patch all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=570.0,726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intrinsic being of ourselves, the seed of buddha nature, begin to rebel and irritate us constantly. That constantly tend to exaggerate and proclaim our hidden neurosis and secrets, which we trying to push back each time, whenever it's occurred, but unable to do so. And sometimes we think it is fine, that your situation is unique and nobody knows the real truth. So we can afford to keep quiet and pretending as if nothing happened. And consequently, interesting situation is that all of us doing that all the time, so there is a hidden utterance, earthshaking vibrations of everybody is keeping their secret as their own unique secrets. And so much unique secrets, so many of them, millions of them, [laughs] begin to shake the earth simultaneously, and chaos takes place in the world. One's teacher, parents, livelihood, all the rest of it, the economy, whatever may be, begin to take part in this complaint -- that something has been kept too secret. It is not as secret as you wish, you desired, but it is public secret, open secret, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=726.0,872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That whole underground movement which becomes overground movement is the doing of the seed of enlightenment wanted to burst out. And you regard that as sometimes threat, enemy, and people sometimes think that you are about to go crazy. And some people think you're about to make some kind of mystical discovery of something or other. All kinds of hot and cold experience takes place. But nevertheless, something’s taking place, which is not particularly old hat -- which *is* old hat actually, for all of us, which is not particularly new hat. And if such situation didn't take place, we wouldn’t be here discussing this issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=872.0,954.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular seed of enlightenment also takes place in confusion of what could be done next. At that point, we could say quite clearly, simply, safely, that such unrest is expression of our potentiality, the notion of seed of enlightenment. That all the questions, that all uncertainty, and confusion, resentment, and aggression, analyzing ourselves, and everything that takes place in that realm of state of mind that exists, which is based on what's known as the seed of enlightenment. It is not somebody's doing, particularly, that somebody from the loft has great scheme of intrigue and gigantic plan for everybody, that are trying to spook you, trying to haunt you. Therefore, trying to make you miserable until you become converted into the loft upstairs, to the owls and family heirlooms and spiders and what you have there. But it is something more personal, much more direct, and very real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=954.0,1154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be the basic idea of the seed of enlightenment, is the dissatisfaction, anger, lust, questions, notion of search that takes place came from within us. Without that, we wouldn't have any facilities to look into that at all. It's very basic, very ordinary, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nI would like to stop at that point tonight and lay that basic background. We can continue tomorrow in a further issues that might come through, that how the buddha nature works with the basics of practice and journey itself. And I would like to open to discussion this point. You're welcome to ask questions if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1154.0,1301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems to me like the theistic enlightenment is not really enlightenment at all, but the nontheistic enlightenment is really that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in the theistic tradition of enlightenment is always trying to become something else, in some sense, you could say. That you trying to become a pure grain of sand, and you trying to become a big rock. Whereas, the nontheistic traditions of enlightenment is that grain of sand is self-realized itself as self-existing rock already.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So is that enlightenment then? The... [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's big question, what is enlightenment anyway? So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The grain of sand trying to become a big rock.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, no, both. Yes, in the sense if it could break up-- give up its poverty; or else no, if it has gigantic ego. [laughter] So it depends on the situation or the individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1301.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The last statement that you made in your talk, that without our dissatisfaction and anger and lust we wouldn't have the facilities to look within ourselves at all -- I'd like to know more about what you mean by facilities? Is that a sense of developing muscle, developing strength, something along that line or... [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Developing in a sense of acknowledging what you have. Some kind of sympathy, where you don't have to regard your attributes are no longer obstacles, and they are, in fact, expressions of wakeful state in some roundabout way, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [laughs]It's that roundabout way.[laughs] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1415.0,1524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Two questions, Rinpoche. First, in my understanding of the theistic enlightenment is that one eventually reaches a point where one realizes that the other, which one is trying to become, is no other than oneself. And also, when you say nontheistic, nontheist, is that saying \"no god\" in the same way that when one is talking about \"vase\"? And is that-- does that correspond to the way one talks about \"vase\" and \"no vase,\" when speaking of shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So then we just have two different paths to the same goal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Two different?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Theistic and nontheistic paths to the same goal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the interesting point there is that the-- all the mystical traditions agree upon, on the one pyramid point where you begin to lose reference point. That's where you have reached the-- attained some state of sanity. But at the same time, the means seem to become problematic. I suppose, at that point, you could say two different approaches are working at one point. But whether you allow that the notion of oneness as zero-ness to begin with, and you solve a lot of problem, and you don't have to create celestial parents, celestial grandfather all over the place. And solves a lot of problem, particularly in the twentieth century people lot, because society is such that there's some problems of [laughs] uncertainty and feeling of not be loved all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhen somebody's come along and begin to say to you that, \"If you do this, that the lot of people are going to love you.\" And you immediately jump into situation, which turned out to be just purely hitting on the wrong point of sanity. It's rather wrong point of insanity actually, that you have a substitute of something else. That your own parents turned out to be not so good. And your own culture has turned out to be not so good, so, if you find divine culture, divine parents, or divine friends, divine lover, what have you, and immediately, obviously, you will jump into that situation. So by playing the weak point in a roundabout way, finally you might come to the conclusions, which is kind of journey round and coming back to square one, and then you start to begin the straight journey after that when you reach the mystical traditions, whatever that means, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Good. Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1524.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there in the back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You talk about the value of suffering in terms of the seed of enlightenment. What do you do with those moments of joy and satisfaction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not talking about the value of suffering as a merchandise particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Let's get that settled first. It's not talking about a value particularly. So therefore, the moments of joy or whatever have you also doesn't have value either. So the moments of joy, okay, fine. There’s-- there doesn't seem to be any particular problems with that.[laughter] And according to the Buddhist outlook, at least, the joy doesn't seem to be real joy or pain doesn't seem to be real pain, but they both have their deceptions behind the whole thing. You're more deceived with the pain, you're more deceived with your pleasure. At that point, I would like to use word pleasure rather than joy, which is much more direct and rugged. But both of them don't have any value or, shall we say, marketing value. It is that: that is what it is, very simply. So what's the problem there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The problem is just thinking about-- well, I can't-- concentration on suffering...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the problem there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I beg your pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1793.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't concentrate on suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No. I concentrate on suffering all the time-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: -- and I feel-- [laughs] I feel guilty whenever I don't suffer. [laughs; laughter] I feel like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's old folk problem of heritage of some kind, where [laughter] that you're supposed to feel good. If you go to movie or opera, concert, the first question is, \"How did you enjoy that?\" rather than \"How was it?\" actually. That's automatic people's respond. And you're supposed to make feast of your life by constantly being drugged, you know, little things of all kinds of things. If you are creative enough, if you have enough money to entertain yourself, then you're doing fine. \"And how's so and so doing?\" \"Fine. Having a great time.\" Then there's no question further. \"So and so is doing terrible.\" And then, \"What's wrong with it?\" And the whole cult of our society is based on that we're supposed to occupy ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd, at the beginning of the drug culture, people thought that was great. That finally found some eternal joy, happiness by taking these drugs, and groovy, [laughter] magnificent. But then, when begin to have the hungover after those, depressions after those, and then turn out to be something else, and everybody got very embarrassed. And they begin to talk about, \"Maybe we should seek spirituality and high on that, which doesn't have any hangovers after that.\" But, then, that also turn out to be questionable as well. So purpose of life is not so much of just purely enjoy alone, but the purpose of life is to find out what it's all about. Pain or pleasure, joy or whatever, depression, up and down, everything *is* life. What it's all about. Not necessarily to find, to begin with, but to find-- to realize how both of them are same thing. Pain doesn't mean really pain. We still enjoy very secretly something to entertain us. Pleasure doesn't really mean pleasure. We don't really enjoy. There's slight subtleties of pain at the same time, and we sort of go along with our little deceptions thrown here and there, which amounts gigantic MSG in our life. [laughter] MSG.[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1946.0,2164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: So I don't have to also concentrate always on the pain either, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In other words, the pain can be kind of a high-- a low high, or an addiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Well, that seems to be what we are talking about. Is pain is not beginning of the revelation, particularly of your self-discovery. For that matter, pleasure isn't either. Which doesn't mean to say that pain has big portion of the enlightenment, particularly. Please don't misunderstand me. But we are talking about both are being same. We are not talking about what you should be doing, particularly. I don't mean to say that you should put your finger on the burning stove try to attain enlightenment. But at the same time, sunbathing in Florida is also questionable. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2164.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58344/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There are some people for whom experience is not very intense. The highs aren't very high and the lows aren't very low. And it's just sort of a blah kind of existence. [laughter] How can people in that position, experiencing life in that fashion, make the connection with the seed? Where does the stimulation and the interaction come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you talking about yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: To an extent, but I'm thinking-- [laughter] I'm thinking of my work also.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Why not? [laughter; laughs] Well, then you have a gray world. Right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mixture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mixture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mixture of white and black dots. If you look at from distance, look gray.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is equally made out of pain and pleasure in a small dosage. And maybe somebody is, this case [laughs] -- whoever that is [laughter; laughs] -- is not so much dramatic person as such, particularly, but still plowing something or other in a deep rooted way. Plowing like a field with a machine. 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Good night.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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attributes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1458.17,1464.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are no longer obstacles,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1465.05,1468.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they are, in fact,\nexpressions of wakeful 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Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1780.53,1782.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYoung lady over there\nin the back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1793.2,1794.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: You talk about\nthe value of 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1825.95,1827.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nLet's get that settled first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=1827.16,1828.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not talking about\na value 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You don't\nhave to watch your own thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2471.42,2474.519"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just be.\nAnd it still hurts,\nstill is pleasurable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2475.11,2482.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you trying to be\nabsolutely cool,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2486.52,2488.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you don't really mean it\nin the depth of our existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2488.55,2493.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We can't really be cool always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2495.88,2497.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That doesn't mean to say\nyou have to be up\nand down dramatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2498.69,2504.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But still, there is something\nthat's taking place, always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2504.77,2508.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see the interesting point\nabout this basic sanity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2510.6,2513.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and seed of enlightenment\nis very contagious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2513.83,2518.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When it's begin to take\nactive role in your life,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2520.47,2524.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether it is gray\nor black or white,\nstill the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2525.13,2528.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Doesn't make much differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500#t=2533.0,2537.455"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108214/file/209500/transcript/58345/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At least that's how I’ve been\ntaught. 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