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Disappointment and unmasking one's ego is a necessary part of the path, which Milarepa experiences in meeting Marpa and through the trials he puts him through. The relationship of Milarepa and Marpa demonstrates the importance of cutting through spiritual and psychological materialism."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 6. Milarepa’s Genuineness and Honesty (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 7. Encountering Marpa (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 8. Marpa’s Construction Projects  (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 9. Destroying Materialism (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 25 2023 to Mar 07 2025\nTranscribing: Eirikur Baldursson\nChecking: Jessyca Goldstein\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Blaire Martin, Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Milarepa’s initial search for a teacher -- the extraordinary promises, the fascination -- and his inability, initially, to discover \"a real person who could communicate with him.\" The talk also describes how Marpa became that real person for Milarepa. Disappointment and unmasking one's ego is a necessary part of the path, which Milarepa experiences in meeting Marpa and through the trials he puts him through. The relationship of Milarepa and Marpa demonstrates the importance of cutting through spiritual and psychological materialism."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/366/small/thumbnail_267366_1741834980.jpg?1741835006","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741834646_19730720VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4005.376,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/366/small/thumbnail_267366_1741834980.jpg?1741835006","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/366/original/1741834646_19730720VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1741834674","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4005.376,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730720VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730720VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Message of Milarepa - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: OPENING]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [applause; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Come on in and meet some folks! [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Sound of technician adjusting equipment]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Higher! Higher!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Loud \"thump\" from tape machine; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=0.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Last talk, we left at the point of Milarepa's search and sense of loneliness. And beyond that, the nature of search become a more realistic one. That Milarepa finds personal link or personal discovery of this particular goal. That he had discovered several teachers as well as Marpa. Before he met Marpa, he search for other teachers, and thinking that these people are going to be the ultimate answer to his search. And each time when he try to relate with them, something not quite right, because the sense of fascination is too extraordinary. And also meeting a proclaimed teacher becomes-- creates tremendous expectations. That, for instance, he met a teacher of maha ati, who promised him that if he practiced, starting meditating in the evening, he will attain enlightenment in the morning. If he practicing in the morning, he will attain enlightenment in the evening. That all kinds of promises were given and techniques that was taught were very exciting, excitable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=260.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And still it seems to be that Milarepa's search and his journey hasn't completely fulfilled in terms of discovering real person who can communicate with him. So that his journey went on. And that lot of cases that teachers admitted that, \"since there's nothing wrong with my teaching and I'm as a teacher, there must be something wrong with you. So therefore, you must go and search for somebody else.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=418.0,461.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Milarepa continued his journey, which is interesting psychological point in terms of our own practices. That we meet a certain person who seem to answer all our questions. At the beginning, we tend to become extraordinarily exciting to have come across with such possibilities, such experiences. And we plunge ourselves into it. And the messages that what we get seems to become also profound, seemingly profound and exciting. But as we begin to commit ourselves into such, or given into such fascination, that our own fascination begin to haunt us back constantly, so that we find unable to relate with the teaching or the teacher. That is, that we think the best one that we found. That seem to be the problem, is that our own fascination bouncing back on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=461.0,548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the final discovery of Milarepa's guru, Marpa, that he heard all kinds of stories of Marpa as being great teacher and possess a lot of wealth, spiritual wealth, accomplished guru. And he was searching for such person. And he come across a farm close to Marpa's home, and he asked these people who are sowing Spring seeds for their crops. And he meet this farmer who is plowing and asked whether he, since he is local person, whether he knew the great Marpa. And I'm sure if you read the storybook, LIFE OF MILAREPA, you probably have read it. And the farmer said, \"I can tell you. I know this person. But before I tell you where this person is, you must work for me in terms of payment, that you should pay for the information. That instead you should work, and then I'll tell you if you work hard. And just lead the oxen several zig-zag journeys on the field.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=548.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And having done that, then they broke for-- they stop for beer and they rested. Farmer and the guy who owns the farm and his servants stopped and they were given refreshments. And at that point that Milarepa begin to recognize-- or realize this farmer is the Marpa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=644.0,684.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could see in some sense, that at the beginning, that introduction is very gentle in many ways, and it is not connected with fascination or expectation. In other word, the Marpa's approach was not playing on Milarepa's weakness of his fascination is there already. So instead of creating a very awe-inspiring situation, just meet this person very casually. And he has higher expectation of meeting the real Marpa. But instead he had to lower down his speed of fascination to realize this person is the Marpa that he was looking for. Almost to the level of disappointment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=684.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seems there is something very human about the whole thing and very accurate about the whole thing. Is that the student who feels alone, lonely, and unable to find substitute parents, should also meet with further disappointment, rather than immediately presenting substitute parents as a charitable act. So that kind of charitable would be idiot compassion. That there should be still-- the sense fascination and loneliness and wanted to fulfill your desire is so intense, therefore, there should be some way of still less intensifying the fascination, greatly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=746.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's one problem is also that Marpa's home is from Milarepa's expectation, is the house of God. Whenever you go in there, you have expected hospitality and kindness and gentleness and everything. You can receive teaching freely because that the object of working with the student is a compassionate act, therefore, this should not cost anything: food or shelter, anything, the whole thing should be free. Like-- the attitude of that you have try to relate-- Milarepa trying to relate with Marpa, being with him is almost political asylum, that you run away from the enemies who is chasing behind you: that hopefully the friends who's on your side will open the door and hide you behind cupboard in case enemies comes. And some kind expectation of act of charity. Still the real meaning of disappointment haven't come clear in Milarepa's situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=820.0,906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we could apply to our own experience as well from that point of view. That everything should be highly hospitable, highly kind, and highly automatic. That even the student doesn't have to do anything, everything is programmed for the student. That you just sit and be there, eat what has been given and sleep when the time comes, and get up when the situation demands your discipline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=906.0,936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So instead that Milarepa found that he had to pay for Marpa to receive instructions in physical gifts, as it is referred as \"abhisheka\", or \"initiation\" fee. Marpa says that, \"You could work for me. I will provide free food and free lodging, and you could receive teaching from somewhere else. Or else you have to find your own free-- your own lodging and food and receive teaching from me. I can't provide both physical security as well as spiritual security at the same time.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=936.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's kind of real human being's approach, opposed to adopting pet animals, who does not have any intelligence as to work for itself, and you just adopt them as your pet animal. So becoming someone's disciple from that point of view is not quite same as someone adopting you as pet animal. And it is also respecting human quality, that human dignity. That human beings are able to use their brain, able to look after themselves much more so than physical level, and spiritually they could do that as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1000.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the experience of Milarepa becomes more and more difficult, more than he expected. And several attempts were made to try to get into a teaching situation, trying to join the teaching students crowd. And each time Milarepa was kicked out because he didn't have anything to offer. Originally, probably Milarepa thought that he could just move into Marpa's house and hang out there and eat the food and live-- share the shelter and also receive the teaching. And obviously that turned out to be not practical thing to do. That would increase the karmic debts: of physical debts of expense and cost of living, as well as spiritual debts of that you're creating claustrophobic situation of demanding every inch of space that Marpa has, that you are sucking it out as hungry ghost kind of attitude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1045.0,1141.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously, Milarepa was very suffocated and he feels extremely poor. That he would like to work with somebody who could really feed him spiritually, physically. Obviously that would have been his ideal dream of bodhisattva or good person. And he would have enjoyed doing that, becoming a part of Marpa's household. But that is, in fact, we're indebting ourselves-- or he's indebting ourselves [himself] more than he should be, that he has no exchange of anything. And also, at the same time, that he is unable to-- if the situation was created that way, he will be unable to offer his rugged ego or expose himself to Marpa, because he will be constantly obeying orders and living there, and life situation is very snug, relatively speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1141.0,1224.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be one of the starting point of Milarepa’s discovery of, that even you associate yourself with a great teacher and lineage, you are still alone, a lonely person. And beyond that, that there is not only that, that's not the only thing, that he could move out and he could have his own apartment or place to live and receive teaching, pay for the teaching fee. I mean, which lot of people in our situation in the twentieth century is quite easily that one can do it. That you take part-time job, you move into an apartment, and you have-- trying to develop clean-cut relationship with your teacher. And even doesn't drink cup of tea and doesn't offend anybody in his household. You just come and pay for your tuition as teaching-- from receiving teaching. And one could do that, but that seem to be also, at the same time, working for further security of some kind. Still, you would like to keep your record clear and clean in order to learn further, and you trying to develop great politician from that sense. And somehow that is not only enough, there is more demand. Quite different from if you are threatened in your position in office, you just stop criticizing your boss or your fellow workers. You just do the job and go back home and come next day. And that seem to be different approach in this case than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1224.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Marpa, this case, asks Milarepa as initiation fee, to build several constructions for him. He designed everything and Milarepa builds. And each time the construction is almost completed, that Marpa would say, \"I have no intention of building such a place. And you made it up yourself. And you wasting my time, spoiling my landscape and my property.\" Or else that some certain times Marpa would say that \"I don't remember telling you-- giving you such order, I must be drunk [laughter] at the time.\" And all kinds of excuses were given. But still, it's quite clear that it is intentional in Marpa's part. Not in terms of just playing game, ego games of a student alone, but it's something much more subtle than that. It's kind of operation that begin to take place, physical operation that takes place: ego operation that takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1332.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Finally, when the fifth tower has been built, which is nine story high, and it consist of small cells which were used as shrines and sitting places. And there's a lookout place on the top, in which you can go out and walk around the tower. Which still, the such building still does exist in Tibet. A lot of students go and visit this place. And that was final achievement. Finally, that both Marpa and Milarepa agree that there was intentional thing, it's their project. And it seem to be extraordinarily successful, as far as Milarepa is concerned. That he has finally done something right, and they had a mutual project successfully achieved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1429.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then thinking that \"by now, since I did these things, maybe I could be-- I will be allowed to accept teaching.\" And there is some kind of let down in his attitude of that he is still hungry. And that even had to be cut through, so, he was finally kicked out, again. And Marpa's wife lends Milarepa a certain initiation fee as a gift. And Marpa, immediately recognizing these merchandise, so to speak, and kicks him out with great rage. And as we know, Milarepa is very patient person and very intense person, very serious person and no sense of humor at the time. And very honest and earnest, sincere person. That he, whatever happens accosting his life, or whatever, that he would like to receive teachings. That his ambition becomes too extraordinarily intense. That seem to be the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1489.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is to say, that one has to also realize the-- one's attitude of psychological materialism *and* spiritual materialism, both of them had to be cut through. If you have too much desire to gain higher goal, still by using your own authority as ego, you're standing on ego's territory and still trying to become better person. And you still have that tendency of enlightened ego, is the same as egomaniac or egohood. So enlightened ego is that ego becomes indestructible, so it would be spiritual materialism. So one has to let go of some-- sooner or later this desire to become better person from ego's point of view constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1582.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, those examples of Milarepa's life connected with Marpa is the destruction of spiritual and psychological materialism. That there is no-- nothing you can get, if you-- as long as you still wanted to glorify your existence as ego-possessed person. That doesn't mean to say that person, before a person begins his spiritual quest, person has to become egoless, but person has to be aware of there is such situation as egomaniac, egohood, spiritual inclined. The spiritual materialism is very prominent in the person's search at the beginning. So person should be aware of that situation, that possibilities, putting into the picture of such possibilities. That spiritual materialism is deathly as much as destroying the whole universe, since you are the creator of universe as far as we are concerned individually, as our reference point stands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1641.0,1712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Marpa's kind gesture -- seemingly cruel one -- is way of cutting through spiritual materialism and psychological materialism. And until that Milarepa gives up any kind of hope, hopelessness, that he cannot achieve a highest state of enlightenment in this life by himself, he cannot achieve enlightenment. He had to be forgotten or give up hope; until that, you can't do anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1712.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you see, in the case of the other teachers that Milarepa had met, were insensitive to Milarepa's style. And his willful, strong, sincere mentality hasn't been realized, since there's no relationship with Milarepa and other teachers. In case of Marpa, that somewhat, that right chemistry that made together and work things together that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1749.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that at the beginning, not only disappointment getting into the spirituality, like realizing Marpa was just mere farmer than holy man came from India to Tibet. He does his regular job, cultivating his field, and going up the mountains and take care of the dairy farm, and taking care of the payments to the servants, running household details, as well as teaching at the same time. So the ordinariness of Marpa made starting point. That he wasn't seemingly highly mystical enlightened holy man, as one would expect. That he was this very ordinary person, very simple and very down to earth person who cares great deal about his wealth and his initiation fees, and he cares about his farm, he cares about his animals and his family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1781.0,1847.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such disappointment is starting point, merely starting point. Having disappointed already, the starting point, then you begin to give in to that and begin to accept the whole thing. And saying that, \"Okay, and even this is-- I'm willing to accept these things.\" And that's not enough even. And beyond that, there is really subtle disappointment, which is almost in the form of punishment of existing-- maintaining your ego. More stronghold is on the ego, that much operation is needed. So in the case of Milarepa, that he was a very extreme person at the time. That he has to have more chance to realize and give in his wishful thinking and hopeful thinking, which plays very important part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1847.0,1904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that we could say at this point that necessity for to have disappointment at the beginning, discovering the spiritual journey at the beginning, a disappointment to that. And after that, also one have to destroy the philosophical adjustment he might make. If you find your teacher, spiritual friend an ordinary person, he will say, \"Because he's so extraordinary, therefore, he's ordinary. And I'm willing to accept anything that happens.\" And we tend to develop certain philosophical attitude; we find ourselves very adaptable to that. And then we will say that \"having adapted myself into that situation, now I'm going be saved. And anything I do beyond that level that I have already gone through that. So therefore, I could receive gifts without exchanging with anything, without giving anything in my part.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1904.0,1962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you need also second kind of disappointment, in the form of execution almost, so to speak. That stripping out skin of ego, tearing out the bone structures, and unmasking everything. That we trying to hide behind our philosophy that we have developed at the time. Such thing becomes extremely important. And that's the experience Milarepa had, which could be also applicable to our life situation. That entering into spirituality needs unmasking the mask. And the pride that we developed, having unmasked, becomes also another mask, and had to unmask that as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, we could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=1962.0,2027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID SABLE: Doesn't the awareness of the process make it more difficult? For example, you get to a place, let's say, where you expect anything from your teacher. And then you get to a place where all of a sudden nothing you do is right, everything is clumsy, turned off, turned off, you know, cold, cold, cold. It doesn't diminish your hope though, because somewhere in there you know that that's part of the process. So you don't give up; you don't let go of it. You know that the rejection, the seeming hopelessness of the situation is part of the whole process. So you can't let go of the fact that eventually, after much time goes by of this rejection, that there'll be some sort of a change. Doesn't it make it more difficult to let go of it, now that we know? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, if the whole process are purely repetition of the same thing again and again, that would become very difficult. It would become, you know, hopeless state. Whereas this kind of hopeless process has much more stronger situation than that. Which is that Milarepa found that Marpa's approach to him was unexpected one each time. So you develop certain logical patterns, ideas of the behavior of your teacher, very predictable -- even in the sense unpredictably -- but you have some pattern and idea. And as you develop, as you make that as a safe ground as you go along. And at some point even unpredictability becomes more predictable. So something turns around constantly, you know. Like having built the fifth castle, Milarepa thought, \"now, you know, I have some chance.\" But still it turned out to be something quite different. So it's question of there's a constant surprise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2027.0,2175.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, regarding Milarepa being so disappointed when he arrived at his new teacher's, at Marpa's, it seemed to me that his greatest disappointment was that things didn't work out as he thought they would when he came there -- he would have this, that and every comfort and the assistance for studying and learning. He had predetermined what would happen. It's a most foolish thing that I found for me to do, because it's far different when you're accepting certain conditions from your teacher. And he sets it -- he wasn't going to furnish his lodging or food or whatever. But Milarepa had thought that all of that goes in the package like and so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the beginning, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --he had great disappointments. Now, when Marpa told him he is on his own as far as getting his lodging and so forth, he threw his weakness back to him to turn around and make something of it and improve himself as he wished. And it seemed to me, it's a great disappointment to receive that. I can admit that too, personally. And only when he saw that, like, a student that wants a quiet spot to study, not realizing that if he sits down and doesn't listen to the other noises around him, it will be very quiet. He could study in a very noisy place with many people around him, instead of searching for a quiet little place where he could do his studying. Now, when he saw that point, what happened? This tower with little cell rooms and the winding staircase, and so forth, developed. And that's when he was ready for that. He wasn't ready for that before, because he was making the plan that Marpa's supposed to make for him, as I see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, there's something more than that, even after that. There is-- as long as you think that you have prepared for something, even for yourself, that even that logic turns into upside down. Because still there is *you* who is scheming the whole thing, even in the name of egolessness. And still, you know, you are on same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's my understanding, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That's right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2175.0,2359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTOM GARNET: Rinpoche, this change of attitude towards one's guru, where even your acceptance of his ordinariness has to be given away, it sounds like the start of compassion on the student's part. I mean, if he can relate to his guru that way, that would also be his sort of opening to others.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. It's a question of that there is some subtle aggression. Student had developed certain subtle aggression.\r\n\r\n\r\nTOM GARNET: Towards the guru?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Towards himself, and therefore, to the guru. It's that his inadequacy is so overwhelmingly true, and therefore that somebody who sees that and begin to grin at you is extremely annoying, [laughter] and as much as your own thing. So there is that kind of annoyance, and very much so, to the fact that somebody is minding your business more than you wanted. And it's-- you feel extremely indignant about the whole thing. And as long as that thing goes on, then, you know, you are banging your own head on the wall. And wall is not hitting you, but you are hitting the wall. But you could still get angry at the wall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2359.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How could Milarepa know that when he met Marpa that was when his shopping trip came to an end?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, that's a very good question actually. That's very important question. I'm glad you asked that. He didn't exactly know, but he heard description of Marpa. He was highly inspired, very inspired, and he was all prepared for it. But when he came to meet him, he was just involved with another situation, like you and me. He would run out of gas and he stop in the gas station and asked the gas attendant, \"Where is the guru?\" [laughter] And it is incidental kind of thing, you know, it's not well-planned. So Marpa-- Milarepa didn't have a sense of entering into anything. He was thinking of he's having his casual trips, casual journey, that he would ask someone where Marpa is. And then he was asked to work, he did. And then he was offered beer. And then he was taken in the house. And slowly he just got into it. Until that finally he cannot refuse even if he didn't like it. So there's no sudden revelation from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2494.0,2578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Let's say that the guru has already disappointed your fascination, desires. And then you've understood that his ordinariness is nothing special either. And you've understood that you are completely inadequate in terms of doing anything yourself, by yourself in certain ways. And then the guru is grinning at you, like you say. And he's not putting you down, he's just grinning. And it's kind of you don't have any direction to go at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you still do because you-- for one thing, you feel that you have to pull out your own resources. Even if somebody's grinning at you, you have to handle that insult by reacting some way or other, which means you have to have developed something rather than purely turn into a zombie.[laughter] You know, you have to have some style, something. You know, you have to develop some kind of guts even at the very polite level, or whatever. And you begin to pull yourself up that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But that's just another pose.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, still. But nevertheless, it's-- you begin to realize your desolation of self-centered ego. At the same time, that you feel that you have to do something with your remaining of ego, which seem to be necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2578.0,2684.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, did you say that Marpa didn't take advantage of Milarepa's weakness? That it was a gentle sort of beginning to start?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: This reminds me immediately of a talk that I read that you gave on the development of ego in Boulder. And it seemed that the purpose of that talk was that-- there was mention in there that someone's weakness had been taken advantage of and that this was destructive. And I was wondering about the connection between that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could say in a some sense, Marpa did take advantage of Milarepa's weakness. Because Milarepa was very vague and he is, so to speak, he is spaced out at the time about searching for some spiritual master that he is dreaming about it. And the little details, the story is that Marpa-- Milarepa was crossing a river before he got to the farm. And he had his wet boots put in the rucksack, top of his rucksack where the manuscripts and books were kept, and then the water is dripping down into the books. And somebody remind him that how-- for one thing, that you have disrespect to the books; you're not supposed to put shoes over books. Another thing, that books get spoiled by your wet shoes, wet boots. And that gives the example that he was completely spaced out somewhat. And because of that, you know, that he was-- his spaced-outness being constantly taken advantage by Marpa, by luring him into the farm and making him do things and invite him to the house for the first day or two. But at the same time, that real -- what you call? -- taking disadvantage is, that all kinds of promises were given-- presented to him, sense of the savior, companionship that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And Marpa's approach to him was very business-like. That, you know, who's going to eat, who's not going to eat, who's going to pay for it. And not only that, but the teaching also cost money at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2684.0,2828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Also a couple other questions that are sort of interconnected. And one is, it seemed like in a situation where a person is terribly disappointed, it feels like they, you know, for several months have been walking through sort of a wall of fire, it seemed like, that there would be a certain amount of pride developed to continue to face the pain of it. I mean, it seemed like that's what happened. A certain amount of pride does spring up. Now, the student knows that's where he's at. And also there's this is linked with the situation where somebody recognizes that they did have substitute parents. And the student recognizes that even realizing that is sort of clinging to the concept of father and mother. That's still too much, that that's-- the student knows where he's at in that regard. I guess that's not a question. [laughter] The student is aware of where he's at. I'm wondering what happens next.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t think they are particularly aware of their journey panoramically, but they have some corners of, given the situation, are either satisfied or not satisfied and little areas to watch. And the limitation of student's approach is based on not trusting himself, that he is at the mercy of somebody else. That you feel belittled and stupid that in front of such wise person. That you feel more than stupid. And you even are not bothered to stick your neck out. And the euphemism to that is devotion, but not quite. And devotion doesn't mean to say that you have to keep your stupidity and regard that as a humble person, that is a, you know, a humble gesture. And conventional idea of becoming-- developing devotion is that remain humble and stupid, so you don't even have the intelligent to ask any questions. Whatever been told to you should be accepted. And that doesn't seem to be quite true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2828.0,2995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What are some of the other ways of becoming spaced out besides taking drugs or living at Tail of the Tiger? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think physical situation does not mean anything very much. It's your state of mind, you know, you have your drug all the time. Even you don't have to take physical drugs. Or for that matter, you are living your own Tail of the Tiger everywhere. You have your own portable Tail of the Tiger wherever you go. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=2995.0,3036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You were talking about how Milarepa, after the initial disappointment, then sort of got into another ego trip about recognizing the ordinariness of his guru and, you know, how far out [UNCLEAR: he's?] ordinary. It seems that this game of recognizing ego trips, something is constantly going on. You know, you see an ego trip and then you get another ego trip about seeing your ego trip. And then you get another one about realizing that it was an ego trip that you saw and you made a big deal out of seeing your ego trip. And it doesn't seem that there's really any way out of that. That there's-- that any time you try to do something about it, it's just another ego trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's true. You see, that seem to be starting point, is that when you realize there's no way out and you've given up the game, and maybe something happens after that. As long as there's any promises, that leads further ego games, further involvement. Whereas when you realize that whole thing is completely hopeless, and then you begin to change your perspective in slightly different areas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then it's sort of like when in meditation, you know, the idea is not to reject any thoughts or accept them. You simply do nothing about them, you know. That's sort of the same approach as you take with an ego trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. very much so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=3036.0,3139.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, wouldn't the feeling that you've given up the trip, that hopelessness would be an ego trip also?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends on how much you-- how value you lay on hopelessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on how much value you put on hopelessness. If hopelessness is regarded as a valuable thing to happen, then you still not be hopeless enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=3139.0,3167.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Doesn't knowing too much about it intellectually just help you to keep caught in this, because no one would ordinarily place a value on hopelessness. But knowing that that's part of the cure, or part of the remedy, makes it almost impossible to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --have any escape at all. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems to be is that if you realize that your cure is uncertain whether it is going to cure you or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I didn't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your medicine is uncertain, whether you're going to really cure it or whether it's just another game. So you have-- since you are fundamentally-- you feel fundamentally insecure, you begin to ask everything. Even the believing insecurity is the basic ground to get onto, but even that attitude is be questionable. So I think as long as you have sense of insecurity sufficiently, that your watcher takes care of you, your paranoid watcher takes care of you. That even the answers, even the medicine is maybe poison. I mean, that-- you usually get strike by unexpectedly from the back door, rather than in a conventional sense of, you know, you are going along and you be stopped. But you be attacked from the behind. So there's all kinds of unexpected surprises happens constantly, which would lead you to giving up hope, fundamentally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=3167.0,3275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why didn't Milarepa lose faith in Marpa, through all the disappointment? LIke, was there something special about Marpa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's no question of losing faith. I don't think he lost faith in Marpa, but he lost faith in himself. That he can't push too hard, so therefore, you know, he's unworthy person at the end. He still has faith in Marpa, which is not his problem particularly. His problem is that he has too much faith in him, that he could make Marpa to give him everything what he wants.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But what is it about about Marpa that gives him such faith in Marpa? I mean, does he see Marpa as being a holy man, or does he see him as just being a farmer, he doesn't know why he stays there, or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think he begin to realize there's something unusual about Marpa, obviously. I don't know in a sense holy man, because his subtleties that he’s neither guru nor father nor god, but he is everything that is unnamable. There's something there, some tremendous bank of something, richness of something undefinable. I mean, one thing is that Milarepa's attitude is different from the Westerners, Americans. That his mind is not taught that way to develop pigeonholing categories of people. And also social structure is very loose and very simple. So you don't have psychiatrist, those days, and you don't have holy men, those days, particularly. Just, you know, good people around you. And you don't have successful businessmen, those days particularly. And whole thing is undefined. So therefore, there is a lot of advantage about that. In the case of this day, if Milarepa happened in the twentieth century, it would have problem because the whole structure is so well-defined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=3275.0,3412.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Rinpoche -- hello. Can you tell us what we can do with the situation in the West, especially United States, when we have the strikes against us before we start! We're licked before we start! The public school systems and the parental systems and the way we're trained and the way we have succeeded to make this a country. And then it also, as it's defeating itself, this whole purpose, we are in this position -- I say \"we\", especially the younger generation -- it's training of this desire to excel. And even when we have-- we are fortunate to come to you, it's still the same thing: there's these deft meanings and [INAUDIBLE] . [laughter] And it still comes to the same thing. Now this, I feel, is an idea and habit that came in from the history of the country. And it's coming to a point that there has to be a slight change -- more than slight. And if there's any suggestion, I'm just asking. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, the point is that we generally say, \"I am sick today because of yesterday. I had to take care of myself yesterday.\" But we can't just feel that we are entrapped in the past all the time. That realization of that there is some organic change which led us into present situation. But that isn't the only thing, that we had to submit to it. We could change present moment, present situation. That's precisely what meditation talks about as being \"now\", \"nowness.\" Is to cut through the chain reaction of the past, and purely deal with the present situation, which becomes a stepping stone for the future.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I don't think we have to feel particularly in a claustrophobic way because you be led into this. We could do something more than that. It's question of how we relate with the present situation, what's happening that very moment. Which may be connected with past consequences. It's like a game of chess, that you-- where you are on the board is due to the past moves. But what you're going to do from that move to the next one is up to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366#t=3412.0,3594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144642/file/267366/transcript/77311/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, so it's the past, it's the transparent thoughts in the same way that in the future it will be the transparent thoughts that you were talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no such thing as future, yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, the anticipation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, which is the present one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is the present one. Anticipation is also present thought. So, I mean, whole thing is simplified into this moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But the past thought is a transparent thought in the present.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no such thing as past thought either, because it was gone and dead.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But this way, you're bringing the past with you into now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I don't think so. The past died, therefore, it's called the past. Otherwise, it still would be present.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: So is it-- then what's transparent? Is it the present that's transparent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The present transparent. That's precisely what I mean, yeah. I mean, obviously, you know. 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