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Brings space between action and reaction. Even uncertainty, bewilderment can be spacious, generate clarity. Gives instruction on bringing that into our experience. Approaching the world with sense of trust, optimism. Generates confidence. Giving up centralizing in sense of security, then present becomes open situation. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] how one develops panoramic awareness; [Q5] description of experience of egolessness; [Q6] what happens to thoughts and emotions in panoramic awareness; [Q7] thought patterns without ego; [Q17-22] long, detailed discussion on working with irritation; [Q29] balancing one's and partner's needs in sexual relationship; [Q33-35] discussion of vajra pride.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 17: Panoramic Awareness\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 26 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOutline of panoramic awareness, of perceiving spaciousness around situations, particularly in post-meditation. Brings space between action and reaction. Even uncertainty, bewilderment can be spacious, generate clarity. Gives instruction on bringing that into our experience. Approaching the world with sense of trust, optimism. Generates confidence. Giving up centralizing in sense of security, then present becomes open situation. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] how one develops panoramic awareness; [Q5] description of experience of egolessness; [Q6] what happens to thoughts and emotions in panoramic awareness; [Q7] thought patterns without ego; [Q17-22] long, detailed discussion on working with irritation; [Q29] balancing one's and partner's needs in sexual relationship; [Q33-35] discussion of vajra pride.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Nine, \"Panoramic Awareness,\" given on September 6th, 1971. This is a CTI remaster made October 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont in September 1971. This will part one of the concluding lecture, September 6th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=0.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose conclusions that-- or the continuity of the subjects that we discussed are quite quite obvious I suppose, in a way. That this particular theme is largely based on dealing with everyday life. And that there is usually a conflict between sitting, meditating, and life in everyday. And that conflict comes from not able to perceive the background of panoramic awareness. In any kind of activity connected with any daily situations, have to have this undercurrent of panoramic awareness, which act as a guidance. That's the kind of source of being skillful, inspiration of being skillful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=57.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that doesn't mean to say that a person had to be rigid and careful, watchful, necessarily, but there should be some-- at the same time there should be some acknowledging the existing space is there. A fraction of a second just acknowledging. And by acknowledging, then automatically the understanding of spaciousness comes spontaneously. Which provides right perspective distance, between action and reaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=205.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, from the beginner's point of view, I suppose you could say that this kind of awareness is in some ways watching oneself or deliberateness. But in the long run, somehow watching doesn't come into the picture. It's a question of, for instance chaotic situation happens, uncertainty of how to deal with that, and that uncertainty flashes back on us. And that uncertainty in itself, itself becomes space. In other word each time when there's a doubt, and the doubt in itself of course brings a kind of bewilderment, but that bewilderment becomes also space, spaciousness. So it's a sort of natural inbuilt understanding of the situation happens. Sort of shock absorber, happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=269.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, that kind of awareness is based on a certain amount of trust, a certain amount of optimism. Basically nothing is regarded as failure or dangerous, but creative and loving relationship to oneself. And that subtle confidence and optimism automatically brings skillful means, because there's no need to be panic. It's sort of a warrior attitude. And that it could be also said faith, or belief, whatever you like to call it. Faith, devotion. That there is fundamental positive qualities always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=401.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose it could be said as a source of magical performance. If a person performs a miracle, he's taking quite a chance, if a miracle didn't happen. But he knows it will happen and he does it, and happens it. A kind of fundamental positive quality. Which runs right through any kind of situation of dealing with life. And that also becomes a meditative one as well, because it is purely positive, purely optimistic attitude, without a watcher, without ego, without centralizing in self or being careful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=507.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the whole idea of this positive could only happen if there is no centralized security. In other word, basic faith and the belief in wholesome, and being healthy, fundamentally being healthy situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=589.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there will be two kind of positive thinking I suppose. One is \"it will be all right\"; living in the future. Which is still a bit panicky, and still too much concerned of security. And the other one is not living in the future but living in the present. The present situation is open. Almost you can say solid and real, definite, healthy. That kind of notion of richness. And believing in the present is anti-poverty [laughs]. Because this doesn't involve wishful thinking of any kind at all. It is there already; you don't have to wish for anything. It's solid and real. In a sense much more real than \"me and myself.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=624.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's often the belief in the \"buddha nature,\" \"tathagatagarbha\", is been described is being most positive thinking of all. And it is been said that tathagatagarbha is, buddha nature is not nature, but living buddha inside you, with a complete body. And certain other school of thoughts in Buddhism, who thought there's will be danger in believing such real thing there, because there could be also said of ego, something solid and real. But in some sense believe in eternalism is more positive than nihilism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=759.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, this kind of basic understanding of buddha nature is, and has nothing to do with, particularly, nothing to do with buddha in the abstract sense, but it is basically essence of being awake. Which means that we don't have to think up something positive, find something positive, and make best of it. We don't have to do that. There *is* something positive already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=866.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This kind of positive doesn't try to push away the negatives of course. Even perceiving the negatives there is a vision of the positive. So it's-- that's why it is a panoramic awareness, of basic positive thinking. And this could be said also way of freeing ourselves from chain reaction of karma. Which is based on hope and fear, fundamentally chain reaction of panic, or uncertainty. Or chain reaction of goodness, in a smaller scale, in the one-sided scale. This kind of positive is restful, and it opens situation, and brings into spaciousness a meditative state of being. And that very moment that there's no furthering of karmic's cause and effect and seed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=942.0,1032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that is why whole this meditation in action is referred as meditation, in action. It's as important as sitting meditation, equally important as sitting meditation. Without this kind of panoramic awareness, then sitting practicing meditation becomes body without limbs.\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose we could on saying the attributes of panoramic awareness, but probably we should stop there, have a discussion on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1032.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How do you get it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You just become aware of the space between the situation and yourself, so the awareness tends to [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah it's basic trust that space is there already. I mean, you see that's the whole point. We don't have to get it, we have it. So when people say \"how do we get it,\" that's a voice of poverty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When there is the panoramic awareness, there's also the awareness of buddha nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That *is* buddha nature. Panoramic awareness is buddha nature. It depends on I suppose intensity, but it's in any case it's some state of awake anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you discuss some of the attributes of it, that you were starting to say at the end of the discussion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think any point in just sort of raising appetite. [Laughter] That in itself becomes voice of poverty. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1106.0,1205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Perhaps you can get a glimpse of it at a moment when a habitual negative experience suddenly turns into a positive one. Or when you can begin to really say what you have been talking about all along -- experientially. That it can-- that it's a source of something positive, and then you are free from the negative aspect of it. And perhaps that's a sort of an opening wedge, because then you suddenly begin to see the whole situation differently.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, and there again you see, still sounds a bit poverty there. And when we say we have maybe free from negatives, we are not imprisoned in any way.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: In-- only in the sense that you can then use the negative.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Use it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can use it, yeah, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can use it. And you find that this kind of positive is so fundamental, that it doesn't need relation-- relative support from anywhere. It's positive of transcending positive-negative; transcendental.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1205.0,1296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What about-- you spoke about trust and faith. And I don't seem to have any.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like you have. [Laughter] Way you made it very clearly that you don't have.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How would you know it was missing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Wouldn't this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact that wasn't voice of poverty at all, the way you said it. It's very rich one. Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1296.0,1349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Wouldn't the panoramic awareness that is, just comes from seeing yourself for what you are? And not what you would like to be or what you think you ought to be, but what you really are? And, you know, wouldn't that sort of like-- okay, you know, positive attitude, and then from that space, sort of seeing that everything else [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see there is all sorts of point of views about that. There's the naive one -- \"Everything's okay.\" Defensively okay. \"Keep smiling,\" defensively. And tell yourself \"I am happy.\" Believe in that sort of thing. And then there is the other thing that is everything's healthy, fine, but one doesn't have to make a big deal of it. Because there is a basic understanding which doesn't involve defensively proving yourself. But believing and seeing it, as it is. There's some subtle differences. Do you see that point?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1349.0,1469.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In this sort of egoless state, would one know if one was being a burden on others?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well, you see that's the whole point, of being in the state of egolessness. Sharpens your intelligence, because there's nothing in the way. You don't try to-- have to manage two thing at the same time anymore. There's always one thing to deal with -- that's why it is called nonduality. So your skill becomes sharper and more precise, in any situation. So in fact I think it heightens your sensitivity, of how you're relating with other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1469.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, when I am experience what I understand is panoramic awareness, there are-- everything else goes on. I mean, thoughts and feelings.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: And um, so this comes a doubt. But I mean, whereas we hear so much about the first of all the egoless state, and stopping all thoughts and all this kind of thing, that there's doubt. \"But there must be something more than this!\" [Laughter] And so, in other words, if one goes with that panoramic awareness, as far as one understands it, with the thoughts and feelings still going on, does the whole-- is that all there is to it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is said that the secret to mind is too easy to be true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: The which to mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Secret.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: One obviously isn't an-- far-- what isn't-- I mean [laughter] they go on automatically. Obviously they're not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: I mean, when we haven't passed through all the stages and all [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, obviously not.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: So does all the rest go on automatically [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the point is that egoless doesn't mean thoughtless, without thoughts. There will be thought patterns anyway. Like reading sutras for instance: that certain prose that you can follow, certain thought patterns of Buddha in it -- that how he views things, how he thinks, how he presents a situation. And in many cases that when the questions been asked to Buddha, and he supposedly just smiled and didn't answer them, left them to people to work them out. That kind of subtlety of thought pattern is still there.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut there could be thought pattern without ego, of course always. And as we read descriptions of enlightenment, it sounds very dramatic, and very glorious. But actually when we experience a glimpse of it, it doesn't seem to be all that glorious as been said, because we expected *so* much of it. And once that panoramic awareness is there, then it gradually grows, it gradually uncovers, rather than grows. Uncovers the dirt over it, sort of shines through.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: [INAUDIBLE] by itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By itself, yeah. I mean you can't really nurse it by any means, but it had to grow by itself. That's like the description of a garuda: its chick is growing inside egg, and when the shell breaks and the garuda can fly, without nursing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1531.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: When one becomes aware of the space, and it also seems that one becomes aware of the space between the act and the actor, or that you-- there's nothing to do because you can't do anything, it's just happening. And it seems like there would be a danger of falling into a kind of inhuman lassitude, from... because you can always catch the space between yourself and the act. That there's this-- it just seems to be like energy on a screen or something. And you try and match that, or just watch it, or become more aware of the, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well once there is a space already, you don't have to do with anything with it, but just go along with the action.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You're matching the energy that's coming toward you then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean it's self-fulfillment. There's-- that's why the notion of spontaneity is-- you know, comes in there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So like if I'm meditating and, like, I might find that the ego is trying to hurt me by sending some uncomfortable things to my jaws, and I become aware of the space, which makes its efforts really puny, because then it can't hurt me. Then do I try and match that energy from, say my side of the space, or just watch it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds very complicated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well there's a lot of stuff going on. [Laughter: laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your side of the space. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: The space between the situation and myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it. Just purely that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But then there's still this neurotic stuff going on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: -which seems to be ineffective, and you'd like to make it feel better, because it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Because it's not very pretty to look at. You know, if it felt better and it was happy, and was more healthy, not trying to do damage in that way. Because regardless of the space I'm still stuck watching what's happening to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But-- [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that watcher just suspended in somewhere. If you perceive the space, so watcher has no function. Sooner or later it falls away.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah well it seems you can enter into a controlled insanity or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Controlled--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You know a-- you can pretend to act, if you're acting. If you're just watching and then what happens? It doesn't... never mind. [Laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1779.0,1982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Suppose there's a shift, a sort of shift, to, instead of feeling of solidity, a feeling of power, where there's a kind of conceit, then what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Instead of power?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Instead of just simply the feeling of solidity, a feeling of conceit gets into it, in terms of the sense of power, or using energy in a sense of power, then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean if you're involved as far as that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It’s not egolessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're involved with as far as that, then you're solidifying the space, so there will be space at all. Everything's becomes so spikey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiky. [Laughter] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=1982.0,2067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you spoke in the first lecture of \"this\" and \"that\", is \"this\" exactly the same as the watcher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, yes. You see watcher is seem to be the particular chemical, like gellifier. What you call it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Congealer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Like a particular chemical you put in--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Congealer. Something that makes it solidify.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Solidify, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2067.0,2112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I shouldn't have thought it was the watcher. Because I'm quite aware of what's going on around me, and until today I was very proud of it. But it suddenly occurred to me that this is \"this\" and \"that.\" I'm here and I'm aware of what's there. And hence there are a lot of irritations and clashes, but it's only because \"this\" and \"that.\" So it's not really very useful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is not useful?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Well then-- to feel-- to feel, well, it’s a-- it's a sort of a basic duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But there was no watcher until I-- so to speak I caught myself at it. And also I have a feeling that [INAUDIBLE] shouldn't be too disturbed, or I have decided not to be too disturbed by the ego popping up again, and again. I just say, \"Oh there it is again.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well I mean there is a degrees of intelligence. Certain stage the intelligence could become watcher. That's the sort of limitation we are facing. Is first there is duality, \"this\" and \"that.\" And then secondly that we begin to aware of that. Which could be said very healthy sort of step towards awakening. But then we begin to identify with that duality so much, there's a danger of this basic duality could be made into characters, with a personality. So, what one have to do is sort of undo the everything. First undo the-- first of all de-personalize the awareness of duality. And secondary the nature of duality also should be dissolved. It's sort of going backward process, undoing process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2112.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You spoke about something that grows and I'm not sure what that is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's... you see once you are able to relate with basic intelligence, you have already begun, you have already acknowledged that. And then as situation develops, and basic intelligence becomes more and more stronger and stronger and real, grows by itself. It's like when you begin to wake little bit, you begin to open your eyes. And then you begin to hear sound. That process of awake begin to grow more and more, until you finally can get up, get out of bed and get up and walk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2264.0,2350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Where does jumping off the cliff come in? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is the [laughs]-- well that's the beginning, beginning of the acknowledging basic intelligence. I mean there's a tremendous struggle. That you don't want to believe that there is something fundamentally secure. And it's fundamentally secure, which doesn't need security from anything else. Once you begin to realize that, that could be frightening as well as pleasant. And many cases that we feel we lose our occupation, if we acknowledge that. And we have to push ourselves in front of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2350.0,2418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is there space between ourselves and basic intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space between ourselves and basic intelligence... [Laughter] It doesn't seem to be. I mean if you-- you can make it I suppose, but there's no point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Can it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2418.0,2456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: If you become one with the object you're dealing with, is there a-- is there still a sense of space? If you completely identify with \"that\", and \"this\" disappears, is there still a recognition of space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. Well I mean that's a subtle journey, from shunyata to mahamudra level. That first of all you perceive the space and you're in the space, and then you are still conscious of the space. And then certain stage then you lose the even notion of space at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, you know if you-- sometimes in between \"this\" and \"that\" the \"that\" is so interesting, that you forget \"this\". You know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It's just fascinating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And then, for a time, so it feels like things are going quite well. But then as something-- you know then \"this\" reappears, maybe because the fascination dwindles. Does that completely miss the point? It's like bypassing the stage of being aware of the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's just purely fascination is taking you over.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, how does that differ from being one with the object? If there's no sense of self, in being taken over by a fascination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the difference is that there's no sense of off-balance. I mean in the case of being one with the situation, it doesn't need a scale.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In a sense of in a-- in the case of fascination that scale towards the fascina-- towards the object is heavier than this one. But it's still on the scale of two. In the case of the other one there's no scale at all. I mean in the sense of power at all; there's no sense of power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2456.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Does that arrive in the same instant as when one is seeking for this open space, without interference? How do you know-- or how do you distinguish that you're not just becoming dull, or dulled?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're becoming...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Insensitive or dull.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So it's a false security or a false calmness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah well, that's also another-- seem to be another point as well, in the question what we are talking about, scale. Is that differences between being with the situation, in the sense of being awake, and in a sense of being overpowered by other situation. When you are overpowered by the situation, that you're captivated, and there's a sense of stupidity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But that stupidity is there too when... when you just don't have any direct relationship; I mean that the-- you think you're being calm, and not overcome or taken in by something, yet it's-- How do you know that you're not going in the opposite direction, of not truly being in the situation at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean obviously not, because there's no sense of dignity. Or there's no sense of sharpness, which is quite obvious. In-- so this the sense of sharpness is, you know, self-revealing of itself. I mean it is either-- it's either there or it is not, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --is that what you're trying to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. [Laughs] Rather complicated way of putting it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2646.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You were speaking of things being spiky if ego is in the picture. Is this the same thing as freaky, sort of like not having any ground under you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say overcrowded ground, rather than without having any ground. Overcrowded ground. There's so many things between the ground and yourself, that you can't perceive the ground. And it could be said freaky, yeah. But spiky is sort of vanguard to be freaky. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It comes before, you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You mean it comes before?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean irritation, and then a larger sense of irritation. And losing sense of direction afterwards. And then finally, completely flipped. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2808.0,2892.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It would seem that whenever anything irritates us is trying to communicate with us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And that in itself is a positive thing, I mean it’s better than being catatonic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But if you're trying to search for answer, rather than trying to communicate with irritation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Why not just encourage it to make-- encourage it to communicate. I mean at least that is some type of sanity operating. I mean it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole thing, yes. It is true, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE] kind of listen to it and you know don't pay much attention to the irritation. When it’s friendly, you know, encourage it more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well what happens is that we don't try to learn from it at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: No, I just listen to it or-- TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --or perceive the communication [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's ideal. But somehow doesn't happen in the ordinary case. We try to do something with that irritation rather than relate to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2892.0,2958.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Isn't that related to self-interest, without which you couldn't survive? Then the irritation may come in a certain form which has to do with, I don't know, it could be anything -- work that you have to do, or anything to do with other people? You see where you stand in relationship to whatever is ongoing. You would have to react to it, wouldn't you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to react to the irritation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It doesn't necessarily mean getting angry but at least understanding it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I mean-- well, that's the whole point. There's no point in just trying to ignore it, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=2958.0,3007.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: When we talked about communicating with the irritation, you mean understanding the cause of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, experiencing the sort of basics of the irritation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Of the specific irritation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or general one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You mean to understand why we are reacting that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's something more abstract than that. It's somehow... sort of acknowledging its presence, rather than trying to suppress it or whatever's may be. Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE. I mean it's not analytical particularly; it's more instinctive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You acknowledge its presence, you know that it's there--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But usually we don't. Usually we try to do something with it rather than--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE] to get rid of the irritation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: By acknowledging it, that this is the way we're reacting, then you learn how to handle it, is that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So to speak, yeah. Mmm. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And is this the reflection of what was mentioned before, about going along with the irritation, and get the energy which is created--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --as a result of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: To get the benefits of the [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3007.0,3128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So you ignore the content of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean you should?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Well, somehow that doesn't arise. That question doesn't arise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: You mean it's too fast for that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It's too fast for that? The proper way of dealing with it is too fast for that, the natural way of dealing with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's too specific, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3128.0,3168.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Does that mean like-- it seems like in everyday life the-- is this the collection of, what you once said, of manure? And that this manure is either our neurosis or our-- what we believe our problems or obstacles, and that when they do arise we-- it is not so much the contents or the constituents that make up the neuroses that is important, but the presence of that in you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It's not-- you don't work on a specific content of either your problem or your... neuroses, your sickness, but merely to acknowledge that it is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it comes sort of levels of different scale I suppose in a way. That when we talk about irritation, and relating with it it's-- what we are talking about is how to handle at the beginning. First flash of irritation comes, just trying to feel the abstract quality of it, the presence of it. And then, that you set sort of proper balance. That irritation doesn't become overpowering. Or *you* don't become overpowering either, to it, to the irritation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then next step is I suppose, different specific nature of irritation, you might deal with it. But then you have already set right relationship with irritation, so then you can handle it much more easier way, rather than the confused way. You see, what happens is when irritation flashes first, it sort of throws clouds of confusion, bewilderment. And then you are so much shaken by it, one does something suddenly or panicky, and upsets whole skillfulness and whole dignity. Everything becomes then very pathetic.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd each time when you trying to handle something, because you handled at the beginning wrongly, therefore it seems that every situation becomes emergency situation all the time, all along then. So once you try and deal with that emergency then the other emergency pops up as well. So then it's-- whole thing becomes very spiky or freaky or whatever you like to call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut at the beginning if you are able to relate with the irritation, and relate to it, then irritation doesn't throw bewilderment, or confusion. But irritation presents itself as it is. So then fundamental emergency situation doesn't arise at all, so you have time to deal with it. There's a space to-- room to move about, slowly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3168.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: When you say relate, do you mean to feel it, rather than to, either try to shut it out--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Going the opposite way of either shutting it out or going with it? But--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --it's not even a matter of going with it either, it's to feel it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just to feel it, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Just to feel its presence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Generally what happens is when irritation pops up, you automatically think that, feels that we are obliged to do something with it, without knowing what to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So that each situation is self-revealing of what you are? I mean at one moment it could be irritation, another depression, or confusion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And so that these are aspects that naturally, it's a natural process of revealing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --to you. But then on the-- this is-- seems to come in everyday life in action, physical action. But when one is meditating, sitting down [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]-- why do we always feel we have to do something? Or if we don't, that it's like going into a stupor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Going into--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: A stupor: a sleep, a drunkenness, or a drowsiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do we feel that we have to be doing something, did you say? Well you see, the whole point is, meditation is precisely based on that thing. That you can be doing nothing, but you could be still-- you could still remain brilliant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Still remain what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Brilliant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Brilliant. [Laughs] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3405.0,3557.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is that irritation in that sense the causes of situations of emergency, that covers both pleasurable and unpleasurable sensations? Would they act in that way in the same way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Irritation--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah. You said that irritation causes a state of emergency--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --usually with us. Would that be irritation, either something pleasant or unpleasant, act in the same way, causing a-- the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --emergency situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Yes, that's the speed that we are talking about. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3557.0,3602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, could I ask you about that in relationship to sex? The thing that seems to be an incredible emphasis here anyway, in a sense about doing something; making it pleasurable for the person you’re with, or achieving and orgasm. That there’s an incredible amount of ambition involved with that. And how does that relate to doing nothing? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How does it relate to doing nothing? Well, that's very active thing to do, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Do nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. There's a lot of room to do *everything*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Without ambition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It's very spacious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: By doing nothing is more or less in an ego sense then, as opposed to a physical or a mental sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doing nothing is--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: More in terms of the ego, as opposed to physically doing nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's right, yes. [Laughter] Yeah, I mean fundamentally, sort of taking away the fundamental speed. Which is not really speed at all. It's like rush hour, as we call it, but we don't really rush. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3602.0,3719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEFF ELLIS: In zazen instruction, like, we're told that you should sit, if you feel happy or sad, or whether you're speeding, or you're very slow, you're sleepy, you should sit in all situations. You shouldn't make a-- the distinction between the right frame of mind and meditating when you’re in you're in the wrong frame of mind. And I was wondering if you could say the same thing about sex? That there's a-- that there's just one type of time when it's right, you know, and then-- you know, like, a passionate time or, you know, like. Or is it more of an exploratory thing. Like to learn the full experience of sex or the full experience of meditation, to go into it from each-- every side, and every frame of mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I would say, yeah it's-- in terms of meditation and relation to sex as well, that meditation is it's the sort of basic essence, could put with any other substance. It's like-- or you could say other way around. The colors of emotions are put into the water of meditation. So you might have red meditation, green meditation, [laughter] but still it's meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That doesn't mean that they're all in their-- mixed at the same time always, all the colors.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I mean you-- different color might be operating in different times.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always. I mean, always happens, yeah. It's like also working with the breathing as well. Like, you don't try to regulate your breathing in the technique. That you accept the breathing of that moment, whether breathing is rough or shallow, just go along with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is breathing an ego act?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a bodily thing. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, but is it an act of ego then, because it is a bodily thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. You could have a egoless person with a body. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Good. I can breathe like that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3719.0,3917.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEFF ELLIS: I still don't quite understand. Is the attitude towards sex in a, like, in a, you know, an exploring way, in a sort of a learning way. And is this a proper attitude? And is there like-- or is there like a very proper times for sex? I mean I can understand that there has to be like a contact between the two, you know. But like is there one special kind, at a certain time? I mean is it a limited thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean any kind of way of expressing oneself is a limited thing, except the expression in general. When you begin to relate with something specific and particularly situation and particular connection, it is limited thing. And therefore there is also chance to relate whole thing as sacredness. A particular aspect of that time is unique in itself. So I would say there is a proper time. That proper time is the notion of sacredness, the respect. In other word we could say the absence of frivolousness, is the relating things properly in the proper time, doing things properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=3917.0,4046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Sometimes when I'm irritated, and I realize it, it becomes very humorous. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Humorous.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And that realizing how ridiculous it is it sort of melts away. But is that like using to avoid facing the irritation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be. I think people tend to use a sense of humor in a case of nervousness, quite frequently. And turn a serious conversation into a joke [laughs]; it's a kind of escape.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But you-- I understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But if you actually did feel it was ironical [INAUDIBLE] without pushing? [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if there's natural irony, then that's something fundamental. That's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4046.0,4137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, when one sits and does nothing, you could say, I find that, you know, all the thoughts and feelings sort of flow through the sitter. Is the sitter the same as the watcher? And if so, does the sitter or watcher-- is there a way to get the sitter or watcher to disperse or does it just sort of happen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean the sitter is, like we said, it's a body, sitting there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. And we have no way to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --to get rid of it. [laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4137.0,4180.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I want to, you know, Jeff asked about the proper time, and you said there was. You know does-- there's a kind of-- sometimes he or she wants to, and I don't. [Laughter] And then you get this kind of-- well, that came up with generosity. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I wonder if it applies equally well. Sometimes you feel-- you know do the other person a favor, even though it's-- you don't particularly care to.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not very generous.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a quite subtle thing. You see there is-- this generosity is a very independent one. That you can't make a person to be generous, unless generosity is born within that person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But sometimes we have a sort of intellectual generosity. We don't know-- it is born from within us, but from our head rather than our balls. [Laughter] And that seems to, you know, create kind of unnatural situations. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it does. Sounds like too much head. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In other words in terms of the right time, it can be considered in terms of your own-- whether or not you feel that your own energy is directed in that way. And sort of disregard the other person's needs, and try to view it from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Disregard from other person's point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In other words you can-- you could understand the right time from your own body, and not have to-- you know sometimes you say, in the case of ordinary generosity you consider the other person's point of view and their situation. And that-- and you act from their need. But that would-- somehow you say that differs, in a sexual case?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In a sexual case it's very touchy. [Laughter] Extremely. It could be-- I mean everything you approach, what you relate has a natural tendency to be exaggerated because, it's a sore point. So, somehow other situations seem to be more tame situations. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So we just leave it wild? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it would-- that wildness also have a pattern of its own. Could be seen from tame point of view I suppose. But it's not unapproachable wildness. It has its pattern, its qualities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4180.0,4411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There have been a few times -- not very many, because it's not so much fun -- when I become aware of the space again during a sexual act. And it just seems to kill the whole thing, there's no fun in it anymore. The space between, you know, is-- becomes almost truly dead, or something or other, I have to, like, in order to enjoy it, forget about the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is there a way out of that situation? Can you be aware of the space and still have a good time? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Be aware of situation, space, did you say? Well they are not really separate. Enjoyable--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But when it's In the act when-- if you're doing it more or less conscious -- well if I'm doing it more or less consciously for myself, it becomes such an empty meaningless thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, because then one is-- one is tend to separate the space and pleasure. One tend to separate it, then-- I mean that's why that there's room at all, it's too close. It becomes meaningless. Space *is* pleasure, joy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4411.0,4516.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There's a lot of books, not necessarily just religious books, that talk about the sex act, the physical act, of becoming completely a unity type thing with the person that you're having intercourse with. Where essentially you both-- you essentially know each other completely. But that seems that that's a-- doesn't happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean there again that if you are too self-conscious of the ritual, rather than actual proper communication. That whole process should be taken by meeting of the two minds. And the body is just sort of secondary, in a sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It’s attempting to dance. It’s a dance, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If you're not good at walking yet you're [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. I mean everything, like, any kind of eating food, wearing clothes, and any kind of habitual pattern that body needs is-- becomes also food for the mind as well, always. I mean in some sense we could say that body is not eating food, but the mind is eating food. Body is not wearing clothes, but the mind is wearing clothes. So in the case of sex also it's the same thing. It's mind meeting. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Would we be better off until we're able to walk soundly to avoid dancing situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't have to avoid it necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Or not an avoidance, but not seek them out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're trying to deliberately seek them out, yeah, then probably it won't work properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4516.0,4698.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, where does the courage come from? [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Courage. I suppose the same thing as what we being saying today, purely in terms of basic trust in ourselves. Sort of fundamental optimism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah but to bring that trust out, don't you need some kind of a war? You know, like to become a warrior you have to be brave.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could *act* like a warrior, and then you *could* become brave. [Laughs; laughter] It's like the visualizations, in the tantric practices. Of that the first you have sort of fundamental your belief, your version of you, what's called \"samayasattva\"; that's visualization of yourself as divinity, is your version of you. And then what's called the \"jnanasattva\", that's the buddha nature quality, another visualization in front of you. And that visualization comes to you, and then united with your basic notion of you, and that the body of wisdom. So finally you *become* buddha completely, become the divinity completely. And you begin to act like one. That's called vajra pride. That's important part of the visualization. Is not so much of visualization, but important part is pride, believe that you *are* that -- you have three eyes, you have eight arms, and you do have flames around you. You are *that*, you really are! That's sort of pride, basic belief. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4698.0,4891.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But if it's a simulation, or a putting yourself in the shoes of that sort of thing, then it has very a fragile character by its very-- it seems to me, by its very nature. That it would not be a vajra pride, it wouldn't be indestructible. It would-- because it's based on some kind of a setting something up. I mean, it seems to me that such a thing would almost have to arise. I don't see how you could possibly-- I don't know... [laughs] I was about to say, I guess you don’t-- I can’t say I could possibly leap into it, but maybe you could leap into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you can because, I mean, they are not pure fantasies alone. It's a part of you. That believing in a part of you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So it just cuts out the intervening matter, sort of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean if you are-- if you are potential of growing beard, you don't shave it, and then beard grows. It’s a part of you. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4891.0,4990.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But Rinpoche, can't that lead to an arrogance, this kind of [INAUDIBLE], this image?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it could, definitely. You could turn into Rudra, definitely, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Wouldn't that be something else to give away?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I mean like if you could visualize yourself as a deity, then perhaps you could-- you would have this treasure or something, you could give it away and visualize other people as deities, or allow them to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it happens that way as well, yeah. Finally the whole world is mandala. Every sound is mantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is it a question of, if you sat in a room long enough visualizing that you had a beard, you have one? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that takes a long, long time. Much easier to not shave. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=4990.0,5088.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When you speak about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When you speak of pride, it sounds different than the ordinary understanding, like \"I’m proud because I’ve accomplished something.\" You don't mean it in that sense of [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE] do you mean it that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. That's why it's called vajra pride, indestructible pride. Which doesn't need relating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It's not the ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's inborn belief which doesn't need relative support.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Would that be in connection with acknowledging what you are, and belief in your-- [INAUDIBLE] belief -- or accepting yourself as you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: And working with yourself, and not being dismayed by different things [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah, I think so, yes. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There would still be a central headquarters though, I mean, a checking process, checking back process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then you lose the vajra pride. Once you begin to check, begin to doubt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But can you do without the relative support as you call it? Assuming that, as you say, you don't have to have pride in accomplishment of any kind. But how can you survive without relative support? Let's say if you have some talent or something that you do, then you can continue to do it, just by virtue of the fact that you’ll be committed to, you know, there will be people you can teach, you know, whatever your talents are, or what you have some interest in. Or if you're working in some kind of whatever it is, you have a certain position there, you know, in terms of what you can do, you know. You have relative support. Without that, how can you survive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in fact you can survive more, if you don't have to question your talent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I'm not talking about questioning it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Question is relating your relative pride, relative support.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But is it so much a questioning of it, or just simply being given that position, whatever it is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And then go ahead and do it, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah, by virtue of what you can do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you can do, which is sort of seem to be fundamental positive thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Sort of changes you? Regardless of whether you feel proud about it or not, it does change you, if you have relative support.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Relative support, it diminishes your talent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How does it do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you begin to question, begin to compare yourself, and then begin to have doubts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well if you compare-- isn't that a natural enough thing, though? You compare yourself to simply to see where you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I mean you don't need that. There's other way of doing that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It seems it doesn't help, it doesn't help to do that, comparing yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Compare yourself doesn't help. No, it doesn't help. It diminishes your confident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5088.0,5333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And relative support can be an interference actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It's like a writer, supposing, who writes her first novel. Or he's alone with his subject and with how he feels. It's like a great big bestseller or sensation, and then from then on if he's aware of-- if he gets a tremendous amount of support and he might fall on the bottom of the well. Just because of that, because he becomes aware of something else, between himself and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes, it's often a lot of authors write the best book in the first time when they wrote. And their later books become something not quite as good as the first one. Because you begin to compare-- you have to keep up with his image.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5333.0,5380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Using your model of walking, dancing, and flying, where does this come in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I think if we find ourselves maybe detachedly playing that game, it's not to be avoided or just get back to business or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which game?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: This visualization...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't get it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well you're talking about the visualization of deities and I was wondering which-- where that comes in, is that walking, dancing, or flying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see. Well that's more likely flying. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5380.0,5433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Isn't one of the greatest fears or paranoias about seeing-- that keeps us from being able to be *proud* of the fact that we all are buddha, is the fact that we're all trying to become buddha separately? And to realize the fact that, you know, if you're buddha, and, you know, like I’m not so special. And everyone's buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And then you lose the sense of self, because everyone's claim to buddha, your ego has to go... And it seems that that's one of the greatest paranoias we have, of giving in, to being proud.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that might work intellectual level, but somehow would be difficult to work intuitively, because you still feel yourself. I mean, \"I'm maybe better buddha than somebody else's buddha. Because I'm me. I'm a buddha with such and such talent.\" [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5433.0,5534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: You were talking about the vajra pride, and it seemed like that's a very dangerous path, like it could be very easily lead to a type of insanity. And in-- and not that you're-- and seems like the same-- you recommend the same type of thing when you say, \"assume that you're bodhisattva.\" I mean, you know, like \"assume that you can be compassionate.\" Or that, you know, you assume, I mean you go out and do it, and then it grows from there. Seems like, that if it's really a-- like, you could stray, stray, and you could go into sort of a false enlightenment or a false type of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, you see, the danger of vajra pride turning into ego pride is that... sort of undermining any negatives you have, any irritation of yourself, and trying to use the same logic. Of course then you cease to have vajra pride anyway. But somehow actually it's impossible to really turned hundred percent vajra pride into ordinary pride. Once you begin to use that for some other purposes, thinking that is vajra pride, in terms of--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5534.0,5715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In one of your lectures on the bodhisattva, you said that the person who follows that path doesn't have to be awakened, the path is awakened. Which sounded very hopeful. How does-- [laughter] How do we recognize the awakened path then, if we ourselves aren't awake? It seems to fit in with what we're--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's exactly what it is. When we talk of that \"we\" are not awake, that's the ego, \"we.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But the ego is in control of the situation now. I mean, it would seem that, you know, like, the whole journey starts off being a gigantic ego trip. I mean the ego brings us to the dharma. \"Gee, I'd like to be enlightened, and do all the stuff I've read about.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You know, \"I want to be a buddha\" or whatever. And so it seems we have to use that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, we have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But it-- since it's not awake how can it recognize what-- where to walk, more or less, when we're away from our guide, so to speak?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you just begin with... you see you just begin with where you are. It's quite simple process. To start with ego's version of enlightenment. And certain stage, then ego begin to find that ego's threatened by such commitment, and begins so-- wears away. Drop out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5715.0,5856.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is this approaching the cliff?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sort of suicidal, from point of view of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it's-- is it a cliff or a fading then, on the part of ego? Is it a sudden thing or is it something that just fades out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's sudden shocks. Succession of shocks, until you fall the last cliff.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's that like? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What happens with rudras, though? Because they must start off hoping that they'll lose their ego? How does ego find-- what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, rudra. Well the whole thing is somehow-- I mean whenever there is a cliff, trying to avoid it, and trying to come back to safer place, by using the same logic constantly. Not being able to-- not willing to take any chance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But where did the power come from then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such power?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, I mean if they don't take the leap, where do they get the power? Like, the first one who attains egohood is a very powerful individual.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well practice, discipline. [Laughter] Works very hard at it. And somehow that-- I mean, certain stage that ego begin to find that his version of enlightenment, it doesn't match with the teaching. But he ignores it, he make his own teaching. Whenever there's a cliff he said \"No.\" He want to survive. \"So I'm going to make my own teaching.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5856.0,5997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would it be right to say that to steer clear of a cliff, if it was a freaky situation or not, or is that copping out. Too-- things get too much on fire so to speak to just go work in the garden or go to sleep or something like that? In other words if things do get freaky, then isn't that the kind of cliff that isn't the-- isn't a cliff that can be approached with any precision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would say that there's more reason to approach the cliff then, because there's some gap, some crack, gap, that you can approach. Because neurosism is coming up in more vivid, so that's great opportunity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But isn't there a danger of an egotistical type of insanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see, particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Like guru-itis? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That just a word that someone coined that we ran into.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Guru--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Guru-itis, believing you're a guru. That kind of insanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see, believing is guru-itis. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: An inflammation of the guru. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Take two meditations every four hours. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=5997.0,6139.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I've been trying to understand, you know, the concept of space that you've been talking about. And we had a discussion about the leap from the cliff. What-- would that be-- like when you leap from the cliff, you're leaping into space. And then it’s at that point that [INAUDIBLE]. And is it the feeling that you are at one? Like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feeling you have?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Feeling that you are at one-- feeling of \"at one\" then? Isn’t that what this is? Do you think when you leap into space, you lose your ego, and that suddenly you *are* at one? [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More likely it could be said a feeling of...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No, well you're together with your-- you feel together with yourself, and yet you feel like you're together with [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Space, yeah. Which is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --[INAUDIBLE] everything around you, like a universal feeling or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Limitless?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but there would be no-- there wouldn't be any landmark, even to say it is limitless. It's completely all or nothing. You could say it's either one or everything. You see, one begin to develop this notion of that you can afford to leap. There--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You're strong enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Therefore you don't have to hold onto anything. So you're holding on to either nothing or everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Oh, you're holding onto nothing, you're taking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Yeah. Holding onto nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You are!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are, yeah. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Then you are there!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You're everywhere!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6139.0,6301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, you said that-- and you said in the Battle of the Ego seminar in Christmas, you said that when your basic intelligence invades or-- invades the castle of ego, when it gets to consciousness, he has to prostrate before consciousness. I didn't quite understand what you meant by that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a notion of surrendering.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: The basic intelligence then surrenders to the king?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which confuses the king. [Laughter] And then there's a chance to approach in. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And the king is what then? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The consciousness is an ego consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6301.0,6372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If the enlightened person is everything, how come the rest of his manifestations don't know it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well like, it would seem that if one is in a complete nondualistic situation, well then both sides of the duality would be-- you know, like, why... It's said that even the Buddha couldn't bring somebody to enlightenment, that's-- it's a guy who wouldn't-- you know he wouldn't listen to him. But if that guy was the Buddha, why he couldn't bring him, you know, like why couldn't he just straighten up? Or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Straighten up. [Laughter] Come on already.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose, I su--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Like Devetta [ed: Devadatta] for instance. You know like -- is that the right pronunciation? The Buddha's cousin, who tried to kill him. If there was no duality between the Buddha and this guy how come-- how'd that whole dance ever take place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If there's a Buddha?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well you know like, the Buddha's cousin, who tried to have him killed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well if there was no duality between the Buddha and this guy, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From whose point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh, it's just from one point of view; it's not a total real situation, then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you're approaching from above right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] But there's still different bodies.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah but only one consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You have one consciousness which is everywhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's not one mind. Different sparks of energy become different types of consciousness, which forms a mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean it's like saying the differences between space in this tent and space in the house.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Then from, say, objectively from above then, from trying to put ourself in the Buddha's position then, he was trying to kill himself, [INAUDIBLE] From Devetta's [ed: Devadatta] position he was trying to kill the Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wouldn't say. From Buddha's point of view his cousin tried to kill. [Laughter] When you talk about all unity, it doesn't mean to say that completely become de-personal. You see there is still all of that particular person's point of view. Even the awakened ones. That's why there could be such as nirmanakaya and sambhogakaya and dharmakaya. Even there are different dharmakayas: Samantabhadra and Vajradhara and all sorts of different types of dharmakayas. They’re all, therefore they are one. They’re all-- therefore they're individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6372.0,6624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 45]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So it would seem that the-- you know, taking the story though, the story which has always confused me, that the Buddha was at one with the earth enough to open the earth enough to open the earth enough up to swallow this guy. But he wasn't enough with the guy to get the guy sane.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Swallowed up?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Wasn't-- didn’t the earth open up and swallow the cousin? And [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Which seems to be a conscious act.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On part of Buddha do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Exactly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's sort of sounds like he's magician, black magician. It's-- the karmic situation is so intense, even the chemical of earth had to open itself up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It just happened then, no one--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6624.0,6719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 46]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could I give an example to his first question about why one [INAUDIBLE] can't straighten out the other? I'd like to give a little example, so [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter] Say you're Buddha and I'm [INAUDIBLE]. Now ask me to give it to you. I guess I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: All right, give it to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well? [unknown incident] [laughter] I'll trade you this for everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was thinking more in terms of sanity and neurosis. I mean to attack-- to attack, it seems to be definitely neurotic, whereas the Buddha's mind seemed to be really sane. Though in second sight I think maybe [INAUDIBLE]. I don't know. It's always seemed to be a bit confusing; you know, like the elephants would recognize, maybe that[INAUDIBLE] sanity it would even come through the animal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But with a cousin it's more difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So what happens to the cousin? What's his fate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He fell down. [Laughter] Same as his attendant, Lekpe Karma, spent twenty years with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6719.0,6808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93286/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose we should close down our seminar. I hope that what we discussed, in terms of practicality, that you'll be able to put into effect. No doubt that what we discussed has some possible way of clarifying problems. But at the same time it is highly, quite highly likely, is that it might confuse us more. And that confusion seem to be the starting point to work on. Have a good time. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6446.08,6447.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93287/annotation/1197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Well if there was\nno duality between the Buddha\nand this guy, and--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266#t=6447.3,6451.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169617/file/308266/transcript/93287/annotation/1198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From whose\npoint of 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