{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/z60bv7c72q/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1975-08-05: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra: Talk 5: Seeing Your World"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1975-08-05"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/227/show\"\u003e1975 Naropa Institute: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 5: Seeing Your World"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A talk about the importance of understanding our \"kitchen sink\" everyday world   before focusing on details of Tibetan iconography. Suggests exploring the gap between ideas about spiritual life and everyday reality. Tibetan iconography  traditionally focused on how you lead your life. He emphasizes importance of not rejecting one's origins, whether Jewish or WASP or Polish, for a better world, Shangri-la. The experience of egolessness and absence of aggression show how to bridge that gap.  Recommends reach out one's own antennae and exploring the world as it is.  Develops new eyesight, new perception. Analogy of photography: a square world capturing things as they are. Shows slides of detail of 17th century Milarepa thangka, photograph he took of sign in New Mexico.   Draws connections between the two as both examples of iconography, and demonstrates how slowing down allows us to develop clear perception."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","VIDEODVD: True Perception","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook I"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: New Sight\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 07 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: TRUE PERCEPTION\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK421\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\n\nVISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK I (out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 29 2021 to Jun 25 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about the importance of understanding our \"kitchen sink\" everyday world   before focusing on details of Tibetan iconography. Suggests exploring the gap between ideas about spiritual life and everyday reality. Tibetan iconography  traditionally focused on how you lead your life. He emphasizes importance of not rejecting one's origins, whether Jewish or WASP or Polish, for a better world, Shangri-la. The experience of egolessness and absence of aggression show how to bridge that gap.  Recommends reach out one's own antennae and exploring the world as it is.  Develops new eyesight, new perception. Analogy of photography: a square world capturing things as they are. Shows slides of detail of 17th century Milarepa thangka, photograph he took of sign in New Mexico.   Draws connections between the two as both examples of iconography, and demonstrates how slowing down allows us to develop clear perception."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/206/small/19750805VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4_1659502133.jpg?1659502142","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750805VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4002.23782,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/206/small/19750805VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4_1659502133.jpg?1659502142","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/206/original/19750805VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4?1659502124","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4002.23782,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750805VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750805VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra - Talk 5 - Seeing Your World] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=0.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. I would like to go further in what we discussed the other day, in terms of getting further perspective in the idea of symbolism, iconography, as such, basically. And this particular course that I'm trying to do is a very hard one actually. That there is no problems for me presenting a straightforward iconographical course, with one deity after another deity, and all the rest of it. And I think there's millions of them, and we have lots of visual slides and everything of that nature. But in trying to be somewhat economical, from that point of view, that you should understand what we are doing, and you should have some sense of understanding in terms of what it is all about, and *moreover*, application to your particular *life* that you're leading; that seem to be the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=43.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we did discuss in all kinds of situations in the past, of our talks that we conducted together ourselves, that we had also situations, that experiencing Naropa Institute, basically, from the point of view of iconographical perspective. And it is not particularly the point to learn more about icons, so you have a greater understanding of Tibetan iconography, as such, particularly. But it is a somewhat cosmic understanding, that you would have some kind of understanding in terms of your kitchen sink, your bedroom, and your dishwasher, and your vacuum cleaner. And we are trying to relate whole thing -- that it is workable, that we can do something about it, rather than purely theorizing. That seem to make much more sense and become much more personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=122.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the iconographical setup such as the thangkas that be presented, in the tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, or any kind of Buddhist traditions for this point, could be become reasonably *realistic* ones, rather than that we try to recreate past alone. Which creates immense obstacles to our life. That we are trying so *hard* all over the place. That we trying to speak pidgin English, like the Indians do, or the Tibetans do. And lot of people who come back from India end up with that kind of style [laughs; laughter], and they're speaking a particular language, and they dressed particular way, they're trying all *kinds* of ways, and they're trying to fit yourselves in iconography, of Tibetan Buddhist setup. But somehow there is some kind of problems taking place. That once the student of American Buddhism went to India and come back to their home, they end up with problems of adjusting themselves to their own world. Which is quite ironical in some sense. And adjusting themselves with their parents, their relatives, and their own particular hometown, is somewhat haunting, rather than memory, nostalgic memory, as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=194.0,292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there is some kind of problems taking place all along. That student's minds are completely separated from what students are in *themselves*, and what their understandings *are*. So there is a big gap, between the two situations: iconographical, and ceremony that goes with it, as well as how they handle their life, their life situation. How to fill the income tax form, or how to pay money to the cabdriver, how to buy aeroplane tickets, and how do we handle little details that exist in our life. And there is a big problem that exist in the spiritual life of everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=292.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be one of the stumbling blocks, in which that you had a split-- schizophreniac world. That world that is glorious and fantastic, that you want to be in, that you like to be in that particular world. You're meeting lots of swamis, lot of gurus, lot of rinpoches, of all kinds, and life is fantastic. And it's a real world. But then, with that memory, coming back home, and your parent's begin to ask, \"My dear, what you going to do with your life?\" [Laughter] \"Are you going to get married, are you going to get a job, become lawyer or doctor or what you going to do? How you going to earn money? And are you-- have you found your wife or your husband? And what you going to do with your life?\" And you might try to tell them, say, \"That's not my concern, that's not where things are *at*. [Laughter] Because things are something quite different beyond where things are. And marriage is not important, money is not important. And what important, what I have *experienced*.\" But then you have to carry your experience, which is a memory of the past at that time, to the present, which is very hard to do. That we have a great difficulty in that particular problem. And that problem is not your fault. I'm not blaming everybody in that point of view, but it's not your fault at all. But on the other hand I'm afraid it *is* yours. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=342.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have failed to adjust our perspective of vision, and dignity, and wisdom, with our own individual life situation. Iconography plays very important part in this particular case. In how you going to see your world, your life, actually properly, how you going to perceive your life properly. That you can't reject that your WASP-ness, or your Jewish-ness, or your Italian-ness, your Polish-ness, [laughs] whatever you have. That your background is definitely completely sealed, and your body is completely made out of those things. That you can't pretend to be none of those, and just be nobody. It's very hard to do. People tried very hard. Even our greatest Buddhist writer, Nyanaponika Thera, of Ceylon, he lives in a monastery in Ceylon, but his writing still reflects his German-Jewish qualities. That he can't stop not reflecting his Jewishness, his German-ness, in his writing, even though every word is Buddhism. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=444.0,541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it's not a particular problem but it's situation of a concept, and understanding, that we don't have to *change*, we don't have to regard that this world is shitty and terrible, that we have to get into a further world, greater world, a better world, that a more civilized world. And that is somewhat far-fetched idea. That we cannot do that. That is called \"spiritual materialism\" -- using our particular party-line language. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=541.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can understand the symbolism. If you can actually able to see through, the things we've be discussing early on. That absence of aggression, absence of ego, and everything. It is possible for you to see you can actually unified the two worlds together. That basically in order to receive some perspective to the symbolism concept at all -- there are several principles that you might jot down, if you have a pad and pencil, so to speak, together. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=582.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The problem is-- one problem is rejecting your world, rejecting your environment. That's one of the biggest problem. That is to say, that you are looking for greater Promised Land, *Shangri-La*. Some kind of Promised Land. And that your particular world is not really *the* world you are hungry for, thirsty for, better world. And somehow that doesn't work. So that seem to be one of the problems, that create obstacles to see visual dharma, as such, particularly personally. And another problem that exist is an immense paranoia or immense kind of bewilderment, in that you feel that you do not have any understanding of anything at all, \"unless I've be told.\" That your tentacles are completely disheveled, and you even don't put your tentacles out, and willing to be brave enough. So, that you don't have-- get any chance; if you don't have your antennae, that you don't have any receiver of the information. So some kind of self-punishment, that \"I'm living in this world, so therefore I do not know anything about it. That my training in the past, my parents and everything, has done to me. What they have done to me is terrible. I resent that situation. And even though I try much harder and harder and harder, but still doesn't quite make it, because of my past and blah, blah, blah.\" And that's sort of ultimate Freudian, psychological materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=634.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And another factor of unable to see the iconography properly, is question of evaluation. That you would like to see something beautiful and glorious, fantastic, that goes with the music, goes with the vision, goes with the ideals of dream, like TV ad of its classical nature. That we have certain expectations; we are not willing to submit ourselves into nitty-gritty, and definite world of ours, properly and completely. So that becomes a big problem, completely big problem. So we have no perspectives at all. We have no reference point. That we-- our mind is completely shut off, completely, so that we would like to get fantastic feedbacks all the time, rather than we have to take *part* in anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=776.0,828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So iconography-- iconographical understanding, at this point what I'm trying to work with you people, is not so much of that the technical aspect of iconography -- what school of painting that is, what particular tradition it is, necessarily -- but how we can take attitude completely, as we be talking in early on, discussions, in talking about appreciating Boulder, as you go out, and see the everything, how people walk, how people talk. And how the sky is, how the mountains are, and how things work, in the ordinary situation. That's very important, extremely important. And actually Boulder has a lot of potentials of developing its own glamor. And it is unique place that you should be fortunate -- you should feel fortunate that you are in Boulder. You are not in New York, you are not in San Francisco, where else you are in Continental Divide, in the foothills [laughs] of Continental Divide. It's beautiful place to be. It's our hometown, it's our place, it's where we conduct our business, where we-- a lot of people attain enlightenment. [Laughter; laughs] Where a lot of people have their fights, and a lot of divorces, lot of marriages, and everything takes place here; it's a heavy place, and it's-- [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=828.0,933.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic point of all this is that I would like-- I like the *air* that takes place in Boulder. It's not particularly polluted, and I'm sometimes uncertain whether because my new acquisition of my glasses from the optician, or whether it is actually taking place -- that the vision that exist around here in Boulder is very precise and clear, and fantastic. I leave that judgment up to you. [Laughter] Or if you have bad sight you might acquire new glasses, new spectacles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=933.0,977.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However. That the concept of iconography is a question of gaining new sight, and being extremely inquisitive, to seeing things in their own nature. That you don't want to *change*. And one of the obstacles to seeing-- to see the opposite of iconographical vision, is that immense sense of resentment, immense sense of fear, and immense sense of too much philosophy. That you want to change the whole world, you want to put picture upside down. And you want to do all kinds of things around you. That somehow doesn't work. And since that Sheraton is there, Holiday Inn is there, and Ramada Inn is there, and New York Delicatessen is there [laughs; laughter], Monk's Restaurant is there [laughter; laughs], University of Colorado is there, and Pearl Street is there, and Flatiron stone mountain is there, and everything is there, completely solid and definite as they are. That when you begin to see them, if you take one attitude, the whole thing is absolutely humorless. It's so rigid. And it doesn't mean anything; it's same bad old life. It just gives you shivers, in your system. It's same old thing. I had problems with all the time in my life that way, with dealing with things as they are, which are not so good! But on the other hand you want take-- one *could* take a different attitude, of seeing things as they are, in its own value, in its own spacial situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=977.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So basically that what we are saying is that the perceptions that we perceive in our world is square world -- [makes square in space with finger] -- which has a ceiling, walls, floor; you see that way. And the same as that you see through your camera lens, at the same time. It has perspectives of all kinds: there's space involved above, on the ceiling -- as you call it, ceiling -- or \"heaven\", whatever you want to call it. Some people wanted to think, something above the ceiling, which is called \"loft\", and all sorts of people live up there, and conducting business downward. Well that's another project anyway. [Laughter] We don't have to get into that. And some people think that there is something behind the wall, beyond it: you have your neighbors, you have cities, highways, on the other ways. Then you have a floor, that's maybe downstairs, in the bedroom, or floor, in the cellar, or earth-heart, heart of the earth, where a lot of hot things going on in the center of Earth. It might explode anytime. It might create explosion of the Earth. That's possibility I suppose, some day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1115.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we are living in a square world. Even if we are outside of our house, that we are still living in a square world. That when we look up, we see the ceiling -- in this case it's called \"sky.\" When we look around us we see the mountains around us, buildings around us. If we look down we see the streets, or parks, whatever we see. So that world -- [makes square in space with finger] -- is that usually what we see. That we would like to have somewhere to lean back, because that's where we like to rest. And chairs made with the back-rest. And we have chairs with the arms that we can lean on  [leans on chair arm]. And then we have a front, in which we can launch our projects. And but still we have a ceiling; that we would like to relate above, is sheltering from extreme rain, hailstorm, snowfall. And we would like to stay *with* the ceiling and roof, at the same time. Which is a kind of suburban approach -- I should apologize for that. But it's-- in other word we are living in a box, and our vision is a box at the same time. Our photograph is also a box; that we have a square camera --  [makes square shape in space] --  camera with a square perspective, and each time when we wind up film, that we find a square world, one after another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1207.0,1307.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be general framing reference point of view, but at the same time we don't have to be *too* concerned over that kind of squareness. And let's *dance* with that squareness, let's view that corner, and this corner and this corner and that corner. That above, we could allow lots of space, the bottom we could allow lots of solidness, on the side we could play along. How that we review-- view our perspective world, our world. Whether world is pushing us to the left, or the right, we could go along with *that*. As long as we don't *fight*, there's no problem, that we could have the right is invading towards our left; that's okay, that's makes nice picture. If left is invading us to the right, that also makes a nice picture. That's somehow basic principle of photography, from that point of view -- of viewing things as they are, in its own ordinary nature, which is very simple and direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1307.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the iconographical setup is that you should be prepared to see how we can actually present iconographical picture, or concept, in our minds, to begin with. Can we do it, or can't we do it? And obvious question is we *can* do it. But at the same time, we should be actually willing to do it. That that particular vision that we see is not expectation -- out of expectation -- and any conceptualization, that we are willing to take any kind of \"good old, bad old,\" shots of any kind, perspective. And the whole thing boils down this point is that we should be extremely careful and inquisitive, what we see with our world, what we see with our eyes. What we actually *perceive*, what we actually see them. How we see them, what we see, is very important point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1375.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's old saying which says, \"Seeing is not believing\". That's true. But if you see something, you don't believe in it, but you have to actually see it *properly* -- you have to *look* it, and then it might be true. So interesting point here is that, sharpening our perception, completely, properly. And we don't have to actually put the philosophical, *or* the metaphysical jargon into it particularly. But just how our vision of perception actually work, precisely, directly, as we look at -- [points figure toward audience] -- object. And what does change in our mind by looking it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1452.0,1503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I have some of slides here -- lots of slides here tonight actually -- and I would like to show you the first one, that I took a photograph in... Sweden. There is a unique place in the Swedish, Stockholm museum, where there are nineteen thangkas -- Tibetan scroll paintings -- of life of Milarepa. And I have some simple shots of that, that we've been making film on Milarepa's life, on the basis of that idea. And we have lots of footages of them, as well, but this is slide shots-- still shots. And I would like to show you one of them first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1503.0,1555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 1: Detail of Milarepa thangka from Swedish Museum]\r\n\r\n\r\nPROJECTIONIST: That one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1555.0,1579.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. But that doesn't say very much, actually. It's just a shot of-- shot of thangka that's been painted. And the interesting perspective here is that the-- there's not so much attention is being paid on the overall, overwhelming qualities, of anything, but just Milarepa sitting in front of a rock, as you see it. And there is a lot of *movement* that takes place. This thangka is quite big, and this is one of the views of it. I thought it might be quite interesting for you to see. That there is lots of space. The edge of the rock-- edge of the rock, horizon, there, goes down. And then there is a body sitting there, quite benevolent, and wearing a meditation belt, and his rope is tied up with some kind of knot, up there. And he is depicted as ideal buddha.  [Trungpa Rinpoche uses pointer to indicate things] And his eyes are particularly painted as a [laughter] non-human form. And he's wearing kind of earrings, that is connected with a yogi type of earrings, as you see there. And his clothes [laughter] -- you don't see very much of it, are connected with some sense of, there is some kind of culture in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1579.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the interesting idea of here is not so much of the beauty of the picture as such particularly, although it has obviously lots of fantastic eighteenth century Tibetan work of art, involved as-- painted by great master, whom we have no idea who painted actually, but it's very beautiful. And he has three lines in his neck, that representing that the mark of a buddha: that he is opulent and he is monastic and he is *vocal*, presenting the teachings of the Buddha, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1706.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular shot here is well-thought shot, at this point, in terms of spacing the whole thing, that not giving too much perspectives as such, really, or not too much entertainment. That little lady cooking food, on the corner up there, she is supposed to be Milarepa's mother, who's cooking food. Entertaining guest of priests, monks performing ceremony. That's part of the thangka setup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1764.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This iconography doesn't really show you very much. But it does have-- particularly if you took thangkas into past, the small pieces as such, like this, that you might get some ideas as to how things can be proceeded, and paying more attention to details. This particular shot was taken place in Sweden, with a close-up lens, that I shot this particular picture, and trying to pick up as much of the gold, and the blue and the green at the same time. Which is part of that whole setup, of spacing that his body should be slightly towards stage right, and there's some rocks showing at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1810.0,1867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very ordinary shot; it doesn't really mean very much, actually. It's-- actually if you see it, lizards fighting on the rock -- or horny lizards trying to convert their perspectives on a hot blazing rock. That might more sense, there's more action, rather than this particular thing. But it is interesting to view, that when we discuss the idea of iconography we have to, we really have to, consider everything in absolute details -- we *really* have to think slowly, we have to slow down. It's not so much of getting informations *so fast* -- as fast as we could -- but it's getting ideas and informations as *slow* as we could, so that we have some kind of understanding of basic setups that exist, in this very high quality and fantastic shot of eighteenth century Tibetan thangka. Executed by great Tibetan art master. And this blue paint that you have here is grounded lapis lazuli, and the white is some kind of chalk. Red is vermillion. And there's yellow parts, gold part, is pure gold. And the green is some kind of vegetable paint. And everything is chosen and conducted by individual person, that who are actually interested in the work of art of such nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1867.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And same way as that this thangka was painted on canvas, that we have to actually see how much actually effort and understanding that we have to put in our life, properly and completely. Otherwise that we have a problem, that we want to do this right away tomorrow, if we could paint the whole thing tomorrow, and make exactly replica of it. And then there's lots of problems. And we are not particularly giving art course here, necessarily how to paint pictures, but we are actually training students here, like yourselves, how to *see* things as they are. And maybe I shouldn't talk actually at this point, and probably you could just look at -- not as just fantastic work of art, particularly, but as visual object of very simple item, that has just purely, man who looks like made out of porcelain, white china, [laughs] and there's green rocks behind it. And there's little lady working in the back, and the flame and things, which is very simple one. Just look at, just feel, what is difference between this and seeing somebody is having crash, car crash. If you saw the site, and the stillness and the movement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=1981.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is not particularly regarded as a fantastic contrast to metaphysical world, but it's simple visual perception, you can actually do it, you can see it. It's-- if you look much more, you get more bored. And boredom comes from because you want to see the next goody. [Laughter] And we only have one little slide after this, that's all. So, you might make best of out of this [laughter], if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2082.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel I would like to be more mean, at this point, and just do the whole thing very, very slowly, rather than give you lots of things, which actually will confuse you more, rather than actually able to see it more.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. Maybe we could have the lights on? There we *are*. Now we see another iconography.\r\n\r\n\r\n[audience starts to applaud]\r\n\r\n\r\nNot yet.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Milarepa slide ends]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2121.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Here we are. That usually what happens with us; that we are constantly restless, with our visual perceptions. Even we see something fantastically beautiful, we don't actually-- we are so shy in actually relating with that, which is connected with lots of aggression that we be talking the other day, early days. We are unable to see things as really they *are*, properly. If you see something beautiful we are so shy, and we got so fascinated, and you would like to touch, you would like to handle things. Which is interesting; you would like to smell things, you would like to hear them. Interesting perspective takes place. But on the other hand we see something ugly and terrible, dog shit on the street or whatever is may be, that we don't want to touch, we don't want to actually *see* it. And we trying to avoid the whole thing, and *yech*. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2160.0,2234.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very interesting how our mind and psychology works in terms of, actually perception gives-- conduct us our life. And we really don't really give anything *into* it, we really don't let *go* completely. That doesn't mean to say you have to eat dog shit or you have to just abandon the beautiful things necessarily. But it's interesting point, that how we reject certain things: that it has a slightest offensive suggestion, we don't like it at all. If we like certain things, that there's a slight suggestion of promises, we always like it, *so much*, that we want to get into it. And usually we don't really *look* at, look at them at all. Particularly if you have lots of money, if there's some kind of beautiful fabric, or beautiful item that you want to buy, beautiful painting, you want to just buy it. That's first impulse. And then you get afraid of it -- whether it's worth buying it, how much did it cost, whether it's the real thing or not. You get panicked, you step back a little bit more, and you get completely confused. So by then, we have no idea whether we want it or not. That our mind is so confused. So problem comes from not being able to spend enough time to *look at things as they are*, directly, properly, and clearly. And that seem to be one of the basic point of how to view iconography, basically speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\n[To projectionist] Could we have the same thing again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2234.0,2339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now you know what you going to see, so you expect it as something you want, something basically. And see how you react between the two that what you expected before and what you seeing the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\n[SLIDE 1 of Milarepa thangka shown again]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2339.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't want to particularly have [UNCLEAR: trips?] on this particular shot here, but I think basic point is that: are we able to see this whole thing completely, properly?\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. Can we turn on the lights, again?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Slide ends]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2387.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's question of reality actually. How we view reality. When we want to view reality, [laughs] we have idea of when we begin to experience the reality, we're going to be entertained, we don't have any pain anymore. But quite possibility might be, is seeing reality is maybe more painful. The ultimate reality may be more painful than any pain that you experience in your life. That seem to be important point. That visually, that you would like to see things changing, things not working out as they were. Or things keep on reshuffling themselves. But at the same time world remains as they are. Same as that slide, if you want to see it a hundred times it's still going to be there, in the projector.\r\n\r\n\r\nCan you change the next one? Okay, switch off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2430.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 2: Photo of “Eaning” sign on building with wire across sky]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2501.0,2535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well this is one of shot that I have done, in visiting Santa Fe, in about two years ago. And we had a better shot of a Texaco sign, that it was shot in the middle of a blue sky. Unfortunately we can't locate that particular shot. But this is closest to it. And this really doesn't say very much, particularly, but it's just be there. Then lots of sky, and that's a wire going across, and then there's little thing going, adobe thing going down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2535.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel this is some kind of approach to that of iconography. And this is another form of iconography. And this case we are actually related a lot with a sense of space, and sense of solidity of the Earth, at the same time. And some kind of message that goes there. Can you see what it says? \"Eaning\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2589.0,2642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever's may be, the rock formation of the previous shot, which goes the other way around. But, in this case it goes the other way around as well. In the wrong ways, or right way, whatever. And there is a sense of dignity that goes with this particular thing. And by the way there's those black dots on the top, are not part of the photograph. It's something on the screen, that we should probably get cleaned up some point. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2642.0,2686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, this shot is very basic. Extremely basic, and but it's still iconography. And iconography and icons from this point of view is a sacred object, sacred paintings, of divine principles of all kinds, of saints of all kinds, that particularly personalized. Which we don't have here because, from the Buddhist point of view of viewing the iconography, it's nontheistic one, so therefore, from this point of view we could say *this* is iconography. And but it has all the elements. It has the element of fire, and it has the element of water, it has the element of air, it has all element of space, at the same time. And element of earth, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2686.0,2751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not so much of that that particular view in Santa Fe was fantastic, architecturally beautiful. But it's *how* one looks at, through square world that we were talking about. You have the ceiling, and you have two walls, you have a floor, and how you see through your world that way, in a very personal level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2751.0,2787.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This shot was particularly taken with an attitude of inquisitive mind, actually on my part. Because after I shot this particular photograph, and I was going to go into jewelry shop with trying to buy bracelet for Diana, which is some kind of Indian jewelry, silver and turquoise, so my mind is occupied with the jewelry at that point, of buying some kind of ornament. But at the same time, at the time, I caught my mind very still and very steady, that point, and I was struck by such beautiful things that they are. Which are, usually, ordinarily, regarded as very triviality, nothing-- it doesn't make any sense. What's the wire going across? What's the line going down, and what's these aluminium things, with the letterings and adobe going down -- which is, I'm sure is fake adobe; inside it's filled with all kinds of other things. But nevertheless it makes some kind of sense of solidity and spaciousness; that the wire going up suggest that you can actually go *above* the solidity, and then finally introduce yourself into the blue sky. So still, it remains it's kind of sacred art from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, maybe lights on? [SLIDE 2 ends]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2787.0,2904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2904.0,2925.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in that last picture, what was the element of fire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What was the element of fire, in that last picture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The last one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said it contained that element of fire as well as air and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it gives the idea of no water there. [Laughter] You know burning hot. It's sun shining.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Fire by omission.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well what you’ve seen is, I would like to say it again, is... I don't think anybody should copy what you've seen, and trying to make it equivalent of your ideas. But I think you should understand, and try to understand the basic principle behind it, whole thing. And its whole approach is very clean cut, and very precise and very direct in some sense. But it also allows you some kind of space to manipulate your world, at same time. So that's how you see iconography: that there's space and there's precision and there's holiness, there's richness at the same time taking place. We could say that last painting -- last picture that you've seen, also had a lot of holiness, if you could-- might say, use such a word, in a free way. It's holiness this point is not so much of godliness particularly, but holiness in the sense of it's somewhat right in its own place. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=2925.0,3036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, just the obvious follow up to that last question, you said that the fire was the absence of water, where's the water?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In that picture?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Water is in the sky.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The blueness. Also in the shade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3036.0,3092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, in the picture of Milarepa, there are certain stylistic devices that are used that tell us that this is a picture of an extraordinary man, an enlightened being. The way that the eyes are drawn, and the shape of the ears, the earrings; you pointed out some of these things. I wonder if you could say something about the origin of these kind of conventions, and their purpose?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have to resort back to Western culture at this point. And that's the come from sort of Greek origin, where the originally Buddhist art is actually introduced. That there's Greek origin, of making on Buddha's art of Greek sculpture of a divine being, from Greek's point of view. Which seemed to be handed down generation by generations. That the wide eyes and beautiful lips and nice nose, and the whole composure and the whole thing, is somewhat idea of \"super man.\" But not a super man in the sense of Superman in the television, but super man from sense of a *gentle* person. That's purely cultural.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I don't think there's any problems with that particularly. But, the things that around-- surrounded him, is very rugged thing like a grandmother, his mother cooking food up there, and everything's very ordinary, and relative; realistic in some sense. And the sort of heavenly quality always comes along. Whenever there's high ideal: that human beings not good enough. That they should be *super* human beings. Somewhere, somebody who's a perfect person who should be able to do everything at once. And then, you know, people project all kinds of ideas and concept. But that's more on the-- in the artist's mind, rather than the actually in the theological area. And in theologic area even Buddha himself is regarded as human being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3092.0,3259.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, you mentioned experiencing ultimate reality may be more painful. How does that one shot of the thangka convey this feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, let's take a look again.\r\n\r\n\r\n[to projectionist] You have the slides there?\r\n\r\n\r\nPROJECTIONIST: [UNCLEAR: You want the slides again?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Same one.\r\n\r\n\r\nPROJECTIONIST: Which one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First one. Whoops!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Slide of Milarepa appears]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It doesn't seem very painful to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It doesn't seem very painful to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very painful? What have-- what does he have around him?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What does he have around him?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I still don't understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stones. And his mother, with the bag. [Laughter] There are stones behind him. And he is wearing a very tight meditation belt. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I still get the feeling of... unreal-ness about the whiteness, and the very sensuous red lips and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sensuous what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: *Red lips*. They look very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Redness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --unreal, to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3259.0,3370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's obviously a stylized painting, but at the same time that stylized thing that takes place is the gold-trimmed rocks, and mother cooking food at the back, and him sitting there. That seem to be the only thing that there is. Okay, thank you. 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You asked the question right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3400.0,3411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the interesting point is that in the current Western theater, that when we want to display sorrow, discontentment, and everything, and everybody had to wear rags and have to be very ugly scene, exposed scene. But somehow that doesn't really apply in this point. That if you see Milarepa step on a dog shit, in one of the thangkas -- which actually there wasn't such a thing, but you could paint the dog shit very nicely, and him foot sitting on it as well, [laughter] nicely. That seem to be some kind of cultural joke, inner joke of some kind. That it doesn't matter how aesthetically beautiful, but nevertheless there is some kind of message that takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3411.0,3468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think the richness and not keeping *too* extreme rugged and raw, and funky, creates more problem actually. And then, somehow keeping the beauty of the whole thing, that seem to be the idea of it. That beauty of pain, beauty of death, beauty of birth, beauty of cremation. And everything has its own art, its own tradition involved. Like -- I mean on the other hand we could make whole thing is very morbid, like a terribleness of eating: that we devour food, leave our plates dirty. And then we sleep in a bed, and all our sheets are disheveled and, you know, crumpled up, and our rooms smell of our body. And there's-- you can take entirely attitude of how whole thing is miserable and terrible, and by-- actually strangely that people feel more miserable, and would like to react against that way; actually have found that they can't actually work with life at all. And they actually find themselves in... dark pitch. That they don't have any *art*, to be miserable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3468.0,3559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word what we're saying is that in order-- even in order to be miserable, or painful, that there are some artistic talent, or dignity is required, all the time. Which is not superficial but it's a natural tendency. That if you feel *real* depression, *real* resentment, we do it in the proper way, rather than haphazard, hassled way, particularly. So we do everything-- theoretically speaking we should be able to do everything properly; if you would like to express depression, express sickness, and neurosis, and everything's done in *its own way*, so that there's no problems around it, so it's naked problems each time, as we do it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3559.0,3613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, earlier you were speaking of obstacles, obstacles to seeing things as they are. And one of the things you were saying, was that many times we don't get involved, in life. And you mentioned not having a reference point, and that brought some question to my mind, of what you meant, \"not having a reference point.\" Did you mean to say that you have to have a reference point, in order to get involved?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Where your particular project is coming from, rather than you are just trying the universe, as much as you could, you are just freaking out, in the [UNCLEAR: expanses? expenses?] of the earth. Which is not so nice, ecologically speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are you then saying that reference point means some kind of direction--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some kind of direction, some kind of relationship, that how the process will work. Which is a reference point. That if we're going to piss on the ground, that make sure the ground is pissable. [Laughter] That it's going to create further manure rather than it's going to kill plants, so to speak. So that seem to be the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3613.0,3742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Also, could I ask another question. You were talking about shyness -- maybe I wasn't listening, but speaking about shyness in terms of beautiful things, I can easily understand shyness in terms of dog shit on the sidewalk. Why do you think there's shyness, with beautiful things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't take it. It's too good. You want to get it. You don't have the money or the capability. [Laughing] It's very simple. [Laughs] You know, it's beyond your limitation. Which makes you very intimidated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's like bumping into the Queen in the King Sooper. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3742.0,3808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends, I think we should probably try to fall asleep. Do you want to say something over there -- gentleman with the hat?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You spoke about how many of us blame our parents for our troubles. And you -- I think, but I'm not sure -- attributed this to Freud. [Laughter] I'd like to suggest that I don't think that was his intent. It seems to me that, from my understanding of his teachings, he merely was trying to elicit some of the childhood difficulties, but he in no way meant to imply that we are not responsible for our behavior. In fact, *I* think that we are responsible for our behavior as children, as well as after we grow up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: After what? What was the [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: After we grow up, become adult--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Anything you say [laughter], sir. It's acceptable. Thank you, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3808.0,3906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39626/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anyway -- [makes salute] -- you could put your dark glasses on.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Someone clapping from audience] \r\n\r\n\r\nWell, don't you think we should get some sleep? [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=3906.0,4002.23782"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750805VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good 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perspective","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=60.6,64.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the idea of symbolism,\niconography, as such, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=64.56,70.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular course\nthat I'm trying to 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deity,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=86.96,89.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and all the rest of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206#t=89.01,91.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76120/file/164206/transcript/39627/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think\nthere's millions of 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