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Conventional sense of devotion based on the poverty mentality of feeling like we're lacking something, and getting it from someone else. Describes hinayana meaning as taking refuge in the buddha, dharma, and sangha. This is inspired by the need for an emergency rescue after realizing the truth of samsara. Distinct from casual spiritual shopping, or spiritual materialism, which lacks that sense of urgency.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Heart of the Buddha","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Empowerment","SRCBOOK: 1999 Lineage and Devotion Sourcebook"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExcerpts from all four talks in seminar are edited into one article, published in:\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE HEART OF THE BUDDHA: Chapter 4: Devotion\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-heart-of-the-buddha-725.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE HEART OF THE BUDDHA) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: EMPOWERMENT (Vajradhatu Publications, out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSRCBOOK: 1999 LINEAGE AND DEVOTION SOURCEBOOK (out-of-print)\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 04 2019 to Nov 18 2020 Transcribing: Mary Beth Kean Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Matilda Perks Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman, Ella Milligan\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroducing the Buddhist meaning of devotion, beginning with the hinayana path. Conventional sense of devotion based on the poverty mentality of feeling like we're lacking something, and getting it from someone else. Describes hinayana meaning as taking refuge in the buddha, dharma, and sangha. This is inspired by the need for an emergency rescue after realizing the truth of samsara. Distinct from casual spiritual shopping, or spiritual materialism, which lacks that sense of urgency.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the first talk of the True Meaning of Devotion Seminar, given at Tail of the Tiger, August 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=0.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This seminar we are going to discuss meaning of devotion. And it is quite a definite subject, but could be misunderstood if we don't have some basic understanding and also practical experience of it. The basic idea of devotion is some sense of -- I mean in the ordinary sense -- is some sense of trust; the object of devotion is trustworthy and definite. Compared with yourself, the object of devotion is much more solid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=17.0,121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And attitude to ourselves -- the devotee's point of view is concerned -- to ourselves is that we feel somewhat uncertain, not solid or not full enough. We feel lack of something, therefore we have devotion to-- develop devotion to somebody; is that we feel that we are not adequate enough to stand on our feet. And we have to have someone else to refer to, to receive, in order to receive something, some advice, or to receive some security, receive some warmth. This devotion-- conditions of devotions could apply to our parents, our school teacher, spiritual teacher, our bank manager, our wise relatives, men who achieve the object of life, conventional sense, ideally, and also had collected-- accumulated lot of experience in life or lot of informations, technical or intuitive, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=121.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the general assumption we could make in terms of devotion in the conventional and ordinary sense, to begin with, is that a devotee's mentality is a sense of poverty, the lack of something, which is not always necessarily a depressive situation at all. Sometimes when you feel lack of something, you feel good. That you feel you are providing a fantastic vessel to receive the warmth, and the love and kindness of the greater person, inferior person. Such as like in the conventional sense of falling in love to someone; when person is in love, you feel that you are completely intoxicated and high on that energy. Although that you demand tremendous lot of attention and warmth from the other person, but at the same time you are filled with something which is seemingly rich and not particularly poverty-stricken in the obvious sense. But there is still a sense of subtle emptiness, subtle hollowness of something. So still such idea of devotee could be categorized -- even person height of in love or whatever -- is still a sense of looking for fulfillment of something, in the conventional sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=277.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say that the devotion, as such, comes from a relative reference of a lack of something in ourselves. You may feel extremely happy about, or excited, intoxicated in your lack of something. But still, it's basically poverty. But not in the poverty sense of, necessarily, of depression or lost, but in the sense of something's unfulfilled. And the attitude to object of devotion is maybe not necessarily *ideal* object of devotion in every point, but particular area that you're looking for, that object of devotion is an ideal one -- or even *partial* ideal one, therefore one tend to go to it. You might go to receive advice from a wise friend who's partially neurotic, but he has a lot of wise things to say still. So you go for that, with pinch of salt. So sense of \"lost\" is always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=429.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the hinayana level of devotion is concerned, in the Buddhist tradition, that devotion is very definite, very direct. The formula of devotion in hinayana level is what's known as \"taking refuge\", how you can conduct yourself. Take refuge to the Buddha as an example, take refuge to the dharma as path, take refuge to sangha as companionship. That, to begin with, the devotion-- inspiration of devotion arises from that we are trapped in a samsaric whirlpool. That we are filled with pain, we are filled with dissatisfaction, we are filled with neurosis. And furthermore, we are trying to do something better, trying to get out of those, but each attempt becomes too speedy and which makes us more and more drowned into the mud. It's like a traditional example is that an elephant feels very hot in the tropical sun, and trying to bathe itself in the cool water it jumps into a mud pool. And as it jumps in, sinks more, which at the beginning seemingly to be a pleasurable thing. But once in halfway through, with one, two-thirds of its body has gone down, then begin to panic and struggle more trying to get out of it, but too late.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=554.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the samsaric notion of trying to rescue ourselves. By trying to rescue ourselves out more, we sink in more, constantly. We feel that we are helpless. Some people try to commit suicide, thinking that if this body stop functioning, all the experience will subside. But to their horror, something goes on continuously after their body goes. So there's a sense of really that you've been-- you made your life a complete mess. Even though that you might feel that you have made some success but the end of the successfulness, what are you going to do after you have achieved what you wanted? Then you're back to square one. There's a sense of real-- the master plan is-- has cheated us. The master plan has cheated us. That we have really managed to catch ourselves into this pain, confusion. That's before you are inspired to take refuge or becoming refugee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=721.0,847.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, some point that we feel instead of purely trying to struggle within ourselves, maybe you could look around and try to find someone to rescue us. The taking refuge to the Buddha as an example is -- this point -- is the identify with such a person. That, how Buddha in his one lifetime attain enlightenment, and able to save himself. Which cause us giving up struggle; that there's somebody who had done it and we could do the same thing. And that is the attitude or mentality of devotion that point. A sense of emergency operation, at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=847.0,953.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the struggle had to go. The life situation becomes-- useless struggle becomes irrelevant. So, therefore, we have to also trying to find that pains that we have experienced in our struggle cannot be forgotten, but we have to work with it. We have to study from the bad memories of the past. And make that as a learning process, taking refuge to the dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=953.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the taking refuge to the sangha, from hinayana's point of view, is those people who had done those things and, traditionally, people who had-- who were leading a monastic life, stopped struggling. Order of sangha are regarded as companions -- that, identify with them. And if a person is a layman who had never taken ordination and never become a monk, that layman's duty is to support such gracious, good sangha, good orders of sangha. What particular orders they belong, doesn't matter -- sarvastivadin, theravadins, mahasanghikas, or whatever they are. So layman's duty is to respect those people who had done this journey -- able to got out of the mud -- and support and encourage them, give them food and shelter. Encourage their journey, that they could encourage *us*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1009.0,1120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the hinayana's approach to devotion from this point is not particularly a sense of emotional security as such, but it is an emergency operation. That relating the whole thing as somebody rescued us. Like if you are stuck in a highway, and all your engine is stop functioning, and you can't do anything. And when you call the emergency service to rescue you, fix up your car, or even tow away you inside your car [laughter] into the nearest good place. That we don't have a chance to think about our poverty and our inadequacy, because we are so overwhelmed by this chaos, catastrophe that happened. And we want to get to the place quickly. But we have to give up that idea altogether; that when something go wrong completely with our car there's no chance to meet our appointment. The only thing that is good for us is to ask the people, \"rescue us!\" That we are more concerned about whether rescuer's going to come fetch us or not -- we're more concerned with that -- than the hypothetical idea of that getting emotional feedbacks, or any kind of security, good comforting words, or whatever. But only thing we need is that tow truck should come and fetch us. Whole thing becomes so alarming, and we are stuck there so much. So the hinayana's approach to devotion is need for rescuer from the point of view of emergency -- the rescuer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1120.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which makes quite clear, at this point, is that we are not talking about spiritual shoppers, this case. In the case of spiritual shoppers or dilettantes, that they go from one place to another place because it's their luxury. In the case of those who are really involved in working with themselves, have no time to even shop around. Simply getting some basic treatment, rescuing process. So hinayana's approach is, as far as devotion is concerned, that emergency operation is hinayana approach. You have no time to philosophizing the nature of your \"got stuck\". You have no time to analyzing, but desperately need it, because the pain is so intense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1266.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Psychologically, that there should be-- there seem to be different layers of honesty is involved in hinayana's approach to acknowledging the urgent need for rescuer -- opposed to dilettante, spiritual shoppers. Spiritual shoppers might feel that there's some problem, they might acknowledge there's some problem, but problem can be patched over it until you get to the real place, when you can get real good service [laughter] -- abandoning your old clothes with a patch and buy a new one. We could say that spiritual shopping is same as, synonymous to spiritual materialism, this case, in a very feeble and very naive way, very simplistic way. It's not the subtle spiritual materialism which has fantastic project of achieving egohood, but this case it's very simple, naive approach to looking for entertainments of all kinds. That idea of devotion, this case, is non-existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1370.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course one might feel that when you visit this shop and a certain salesman has tremendous personality, and his merchandise are fantastically good, that we might feel occasional overwhelming trust of some kind, from that point of view, but still the basic attitude is not desperate enough. And desperation is being concealed, patched over constantly. Until the all patch work begin to fall apart -- that's the final chaos, where we hope such shoppers would comes to terms with their own freak-out or breakdown. And then *really* have to come to terms with it. There's no time to shop anymore. And emergency situation happens again. [laughs] Whether such situations would happen or not is uncertain. But in the case of getting back to the subject of hinayana's approach to devotion is a sense of emergency. Because it is emergency, there's no chance to analyze or choose, pick and choose, at all. Whole thing becomes straightforward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1475.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be danger that, coming up from that, is that if there's a sense of need for rescuer, then what happens after you are somewhat rescued? That your basic problem has been handled, dealt with, and you have a chance to-- you can afford to relax a little bit. And possibilities of that you might look for better rescuer if this particular service wasn't ideally helpful, although it cured the first symptom, first problem. That seem to be the problem -- that there's need for further luxury.\r\n\r\n\r\nSuppose we could discuss that in later talk. We could have discussions on what we've discussed this talk in hinayana, this version of discipline and devotion, if you'd like to ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1622.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is it premature to ask what the mahayana and the approach is with the problem? It seems we'll be discussing that another time? Is it an appropriate time--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have a lot of time to discuss about that. If you're going to stay here the rest of the seminar? You are?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes, I am.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Otherwise we have nothing to talk about then.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1764.0,1789.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How does taking refuge in the Buddha as an example cause us to give up the struggle? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose you could say that somebody who shows the way to give up struggle. And you have to help yourself. You have to cooperate with the rescuer, who might be the sangha. And Buddha showed us example of how to help yourself to begin with. Like if you are stuck in the mud like elephant, that you have to find some way of getting out rather than inviting friends to come into with you. Because then you are causing pain for your friends to sunk in, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Instead of just thrashing around then, you start taking more skillful action?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, there's a sense of that, you know, you have to -- to begin with, you have to stop panicking. And also next thing, that you have to stop pushing too hard. And, in other words, sense of acceptance of the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1789.0,1903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So this type of panic you mentioned in connection with the hinayana idea of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Couple of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --in the sense of panic--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --you were talking about, you know, in terms of producing hinayana type of devotion. It doesn't seem like that would allow for any judgement at all. I mean, the factors involved in your choice of rescuer would seem to be, kind of, just what's around you, and you know, what's the nearest thing, or easiest, or most available?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see your logic particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I mean, if you're really in a panic, aren't you going to be just grabbing for what's nearest, in some sense nearest, in some sense, you know, available?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah. I think that's the whole point, is that saves you from shopping. And you have no chance to shop around. And you got something nearest to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So you could make very big mistakes, also, in that sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends on how really desperate you are. If you're really desperate, then you have sense of communication with the need for it, you know. If your car got stuck on the highway, if somebody comes on a bicycle trying to tow you. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So there's some--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you say, \"Forget it\", you know, \"I'm looking-- I'm asking for bigger help than this\". [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's not like there's a [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, actually, if you're really-- if you really need something, and your intelligence be woken up, so you have very cutting insight happening at that point. You sort yourself, you know basically what you need.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=1903.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, is it-- in relation to the luxury and the search for luxury -- this is something when one's brought up as a consumer, and to look for luxury, that one does fall prey to, even in the spiritual life and the search for devotion, or for a source of devotion. Is it possible to have the sense of luxury, but also still at the same time to have a latent, perhaps less favored, *sincere* sense of the path or sense of an ideal? And are these two completely separate -- the luxury and the true, sincere sense of the ideal -- or is it that existent?--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think-- I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: -- does-- or must it be boring after giving up the luxury?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think, thing is, after the giving up luxury, there's something really comes through. Otherwise, you are uncertain as to this is luxury or this is real thing. You know, there is lost of a point of reference. It's like somebody whose brought up as a millionaire -- as infant -- has never experienced poverty. So that person's idea to wealth is partly need, basic need, but partly being luxury as well. So whole area's very fuzzy. So in other word, person had to be-- to start with, the person have to experience some kind of pain, desperation. And then you really see what's the need for it, and what is extra for it. 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Are there reasons why one struggles against the rescuer?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: One struggles against the rescuer, or against being rescued?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's depends on the degree of deception or pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Are there other reasons besides pride and deception?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think, yeah, which-- no there's nothing other than that, which includes aggression and everything -- is that there's sense of you don't want to give in or you still want to shop for even for the last breath.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Couldn't that be doubt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And if you're dying you want to die dignified that, you know, not being-- giving in to somebody's help. 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[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I think I was thinking more in terms of the teacher maybe, than the [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I think I was thinking more in terms of the teacher than rescuer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Situation? Well, situations have to be realistic one, otherwise you can fool yourself. Had to be real, definite thing coming on the spot. You know, I mean, you can fool yourself by all kinds of ideas; that there's a pigeon flew across your eye, therefore that means you should be doing something. Or you can interpret infinite kind of things, which is, at this point it's no use because we are in such emergency situation. So it have to be something really definite and heavy-handed one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=2522.0,2629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: So our car collapses and we have this feeling of an emergency situation or realization of the frailty of our situation and perhaps that then we have our sense of emergency and rescue. Then, after the circumstances that the situation dictated have been alleviated, how then can we maintain our sense of emergency so that we see--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're going to discuss that in next talk. [Laughter] Yeah. I think that's something that we should really study. And I'm sure a lot of people rescued, like ourselves here. But they are lost at the same time been rescued, at the same time. So we have to discuss this very seriously. That *is* connected with the bodhisattva approach at the same time. So we could discuss in the next session about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=2629.0,2684.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In other seminars previous to this, you seem to have put down, you know, the state where you are a disciple, or any person in the such emergency situation, sees themselves as totally helpless or externalizes these good values. And in fact you might have seen it in a certain spiritual materialistic sense of putting all these trustworthy and admirable qualities in another person, or outside oneself, making you totally helpless in the situation as a-- and actually making the situation unproductive or unworkable. As opposed to seeing yourself with the ability or the qualities to start, you know, to do something which would make it workable. And the situation you're describing now, this hinayana approach, seems to be dualistic; it seems to require something else, something outside, something that's not in us to help us then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's very simple, because we do need some kind of first starting point, somewhere. And we can't just say, you know, you can't begin anywhere. So hinayana approach is a stepping-stone to begin with. In fact, that we all have a rescuer. And we all have physical situations to hang on to; either in the form of meditation centers or Dharmadhatus or sitting practices or whatever. We have those things, and we can't just, you know, forget that literal situation. And we have to discuss that. And that is a hinayana approach to begin with. And then from there it branches out. So, I think the sense of organization or sense of discipline or physical situation that we can tune ourselves into seem to be very necessary to acknowledge that aspect as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=2684.0,2824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66024/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to close our meeting this point. And eight o'clock? Is it eight o'clock? See you later.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Devotion\nSeminar,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=0.78,5.955"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66025/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Tail\nof the Tiger, August 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047#t=5.955,8.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127098/file/239047/transcript/66025/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThis seminar we are going to\ndiscuss meaning of 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