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Understanding the samsaric mandala is especially important from the perspective of spiritual materialism. Ego is trying to survive by constantly looking for entertainment, which creates a totality of frivolousness. This kind of frivolousness includes a cynical attitude towards tradition. We view ourselves as progressive people and the world as a gigantic satire. This attitude also expresses itself as not being willing to commit to a spiritual tradition. Trying to establish your ground somewhere but nowhere lubricates ego and the samsaric emotions. We are basically taking a frivolous attitude towards samsara. Instead, we need to take samsara seriously as a powerful force."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Orderly Chaos","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: ORDERLY CHAOS: Part 1, Chapter 5: The Lubrication of Samsara\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/orderly-chaos-1128.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book ORDERLY CHAOS)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 15 2023 to Jun 18 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Julia McKaig\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About what makes the samsaric, or confused mandala flow. Understanding the samsaric mandala is especially important from the perspective of spiritual materialism. Ego is trying to survive by constantly looking for entertainment, which creates a totality of frivolousness. This kind of frivolousness includes a cynical attitude towards tradition. We view ourselves as progressive people and the world as a gigantic satire. This attitude also expresses itself as not being willing to commit to a spiritual tradition. Trying to establish your ground somewhere but nowhere lubricates ego and the samsaric emotions. We are basically taking a frivolous attitude towards samsara. Instead, we need to take samsara seriously as a powerful force."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mandala: the Structure of Unconditioned Energy, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number five, held August 25th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the mandala, Tail of the Tiger, August 1972. Talk five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=0.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I feel that what we discussed the day before, connected with the samsaric principle of mandala, hadn't covered enough to get into the general feel of it. So tonight, again, we might get into the samsaric mandala, in spite of that we have only two days -- is it two days left?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=38.0,82.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But however, it's worthwhile spending on the confusion. And talking about confusion is much more worthwhile than how we could save ourselves. Once you know what to be saved [from], what not to be saved [from], then it becomes obvious. So at this point, also connected with general pattern of American karma and American approach to spirituality and American understanding of spirituality, that we have to make more emphasis on the confusion, much more so than what might be in terms of purely promises, which has a tendency to turn into spiritual materialism. And that we are more involved with we want to [be] saved, rather than what to be saved [from]. That tendency tends to become more powerful one, and we don't want to particularly encourage that already involved situations like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=82.0,164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of the mandala principle that we discussed already in samsaric mandala principle, that it seems that topic arises from that area we discussed before and after that, which was day before yesterday. There's something else makes the confusion lubricating, functional, flowing. Another area is involved. We might say the basic natures of samsaric mandala consist of anger, pride, passion, jealous, and ignorance. That's very heavy-handed way of looking at totality of samsara. There's something more than that, something extraordinarily more subtle. As we have discussed the other day also, experiencing the texture, experiencing the deceptive way of looking at situation, mixed feelings involved, of either idea of sanity or insanity at same time. And somehow this area we're going to discuss tonight involves much more so than that. In other word, we are discussing the basic area we have involved before, right at the beginning of our seminar, that when we were talking about solid space and spacious boundary and spacious space and solid boundary. Somehow that provides fundamental situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=164.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the troubles that involved with the whole thing, this case, that what causes that passion to aggression, aggression to passion and ignorance, pride, and so forth, keep itself communicating itself? What makes the survival situation of those five principles that we've discussed already, including the feeling of the texture? Why that we could survive if they are solid blocks of particular extraordinary neurosis? They could be self-destructive as neurosis. You are in a state of anger or aggression, and it feeds itself and destroys itself. Ignorance. Ignoring everything you could feed itself by ignoring, but at the end there's no outlet, there's no way of relating with anything world outside, so it could diminish by itself. So what makes all these emotions function as it seems to be functioning in a realistic world of samsara in which we live in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=305.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That pattern that develops in that situation, that which keeps up the whole environment of samsaric confusion is that of something totality, something total, totality of frivolousness, and the totality of looking for entertainments. And the totality is also looking for its own survival with all-pervading aggression. And those three principles seem to function simultaneously in that area, so that the qualities of the each individual characteristics of confused mind kept alive, because there's a sympathetic environment is functioning between the two or three or four, five existing state of mind which are already confused. So we are discussing tonight is the sympathetic environment that we also tend to create, rather than purely the heavy-handed emotions as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=383.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that sympathetic environment is, take example of frivolousness, which came up a great deal today, particularly, some reason. And that frivolousness, take example, is area in which you have a sense of all-pervading qualities. But within that all-pervading quality, you have little particles jumping back and forth in space. The space is being uncertainty, particles being inquisitive mind, which forms the whole totality of frivolousness, frivolous, sympathetic environment. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=479.0,547.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frivolousness, in this case, is quite different from the ordinary popular idea of being silly, or being childish, alone, at all. There could be a sophisticated frivolousness, frivolousness that is based on a certain sense of cynical attitude to traditions that had already developed, or patterns already formed in our society. Consequently, we feel up-to-date, and we have the rightness to criticize or put cynical attitude towards the existing pattern. Such as like there is telegraph poles and wires going between the two; or such as that we have to actually conform ourselves to breakfast, lunch, and dinner; such as that somebody keeps their front lawn neat with their electric lawnmower or whatever. These very broad basic ideas of society functions in the certain way that had gained inspiration in the past. And people being handed down their generation by generation to how to keep society alive, and society kept neat and tidy and clean, functional, and so forth. Which has nothing to do with the philosophy, nothing to do with ecology, absolutely, at all. Just there's rock, there's tree, there are grasses growing, there's sky, there's sunset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=547.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could criticize the color of sunset -- which is gone now [laughter] -- by saying \"this looks like postcard picture.\" That's perfect example of frivolous cynicism. That person handles himself as grandfather, handles himself as archetypal father, or archetypal father-in-law, or brother-in-law, sister-in-law. Those assumptions that we tend to make, and we tend to develop our cynical approach to them as though that whole environment is be completely, totally poisoned. Whatever that landmark that exist -- the sunset or the telegraph poles with wires going between, or the neatly cut lawn, front lawn, whatever -- we use as a target.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=692.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that at this point what we're discussing is the frivolousness of the avant-garde, that which everybody thinks they are somehow associated with it. That we are progressive and we are transformed people. That we have a different perspective society, which *they* fucked up for us. And we are resentful about that, and therefore we are avant-garde. And we are the messengers of new age, Aquarian age, whatever you like to call it, so forth, blah, blah, blah. [Laughter] Which is anti-tradition, anti-establishment, obviously -- anti-earth in fact, we could call it. Because earth has been cultivated and cities be built on it, so now we are resentful about the earth. Not speaking about the pollutions or whatever that comes by. But at the same time, nothing cynical about that, the pollutions or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=778.0,863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The problem arises at the beginning. That we regard whole thing as gigantic world of opportunity in which we could build our own notion of cynicism, unfriendliness. We could make whole world as gigantic satire, satirical approach, in which that we are pulling our own carpet under our feet at the same time by doing so. And talking in terms of the detrimental situations, that people end up by killing themselves, or for that matter laughing their head off. Two extremes happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=863.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is in itself extraordinarily aggressive approach. The joke that goes on, or joke that had developed out of cynical approach, is a meaningful joke, it's aggressive joke, making fun of somebody's thousands of years accomplishment, which is tradition. Tradition that developed in the East and the West, which is not particularly laughing matter because they meant it. We could say that it is not light enough, but so what? We don't have to reduce that particular ground into frivolousness, reduce into our satire approach, hysteric approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=930.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What I'm trying to say at this point is that we have a very easy way of pointing out the negative situations and cynical situations, humor situation of spiritual materialism *and* psychological materialism. People, the way they run their business, and how they drive themselves in madness, and how they run their so-called enlightened society, how they make themselves into serious enlightened society, without any room, without any freedom to inspired, and that does happen constantly at the same time. But that doesn't necessarily mean that there's no other room at all. There is a tremendous room for the psychological materialism and its business-like approach, economic approach. And there is tremendous room at the same time of the tradition, which has nothing to do with the spiritual materialism at all. But there *is* room to appreciate the existing patterns that had already created with a mishmash, so to speak, of course, of spiritual materialism and spiritual in genuine sense at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1015.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that whole point is it will be easy to understand the materialistic approach, because when we criticizing materialistic approach of both spiritual and psychological, will be easy to destroy it, criticize it. But problem arises is that how we could get into that situation, and if you are in my boat, if I was in your boat. And if we have to take responsibilities of running the whole world, economically, spiritually, psychologically, politically, how are we going to do it? And that seems to be problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1114.0,1157.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That frivolousness that goes on in ego's mentality has intelligence quality as well, which communicates between aggression, passion, and everything. But at the same time, it has extraordinary resentful quality, in a way, at the same time. Blaming, \"It's somebody else's fault, therefore I have nothing to with it. My duty, my life's occupation, is to make fault of somebody, make fun of somebody constantly, regard them as a big joke, whole world is a big joke.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1157.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is quite a different big joke that had developed in the tantric tradition of maya, or illusion, or the dance of dakinis are also big joke. But this is not a cynical joke. It's a serious joke, if you like to call it, from that point of view. The difference between cynical joke and serious joke is very interesting one. Consequently, the cynical joke becomes extraordinary heavy-handed than the enlightened jokes that had developed, satirical approaches that developed, becomes much more light because you have room to accept the wisdom of the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1197.0,1244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That Naropa, for instance, take example, spent twelve years in going through all kinds of painful tortures of his guru, Tilopa. And he had actually achieved the lineage of Kagyupa tradition. And that is the path that we have this point, as far as the scene goes, something that we have trod onto. It wasn't joke; it wasn't game. It was a matter of consequence. And that kind of approach, regarding everything as unreal, in a sense because you could escape yourself out of it, is the lubrication that had developed in samsaric mandala, goes on all the time. Disregarding the effort and energy that be put by the people in the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1244.0,1327.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course we could say that \"I don't want to become dogmatic person.\" \"Of course, I don't want to become converted person.\" And \"I don't want to become particularly heavy person\" or \"I don't want to trip about anything at all.\" All those \"I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to\" is in itself extraordinary heavy trip in itself, because that we are trying to put ourselves in extraordinary safe situation in which there's no other room for committing ourselves into tradition, a solid ground at all, none whatsoever. Ascetic trip of Milarepa was too pure. Or for that matter, the psychedelic trips of Naropa -- seeing visions or trying to follow his visions and all kinds of things -- are also very trippy from that approach. And Tilopa himself is great trip of all. There's no end. That we are not allowing any kind of space or room to move about with dignity or basic tradition. It's alienating our inheritance, what we have received, and that work that other people put into our society to produce this particular kind of solid situation. Becomes one of the plague that tend to develop or could develop after you have taken the cynical attitude towards spirituality, spiritual materialism. That could be very powerful, widespread disease that could develop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1327.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that particular approach, try and establish your ground somewhere but nowhere, which commutes between the two situations of ego as well as its entities, its constituents of passion, pride, aggression, and so forth, goes on all the time. So we could say that kind of approach of carelessness, and that particular type of approach of \"everything's going to be okay, because I'm in allegiance with the super-satire person or super cynical person. If there's anything goes wrong with any kind of trips, that my satirical person is going to see it, so he or she going to transmit the fault through me, going to tell me.\" Consequently, that we end up by having nothing, at this point, and it become extraordinary frivolous situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1462.0,1541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, the whole point, what we discuss, we're trying to discuss this particular talk, in terms of discussing the lubrication that goes in the situation of spiritual-- into the -- what was it? -- the--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Samsaric [INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1541.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --samsaric mandala is concerned, is that the frivolous approach to samsara. Not taking samsara as a serious game enough, not taking the samsaric approach as being something very powerful, something very energetic. And we tend to dismiss it as belong to the areas of mistake, not knowing that mistakes been made very seriously, meaningfully. Sacrifice a lot of lives, and lot of time by making those mistakes. These are monuments. So samsara is extraordinarily monumental situation, rather than something frivolous, that somebody decide to do it. It's not an accident. It's not something frivolous; it's very serious game. And we have to learn to respect that monumental creation is called samsara. Because its monumental quality, therefore it breed nirvana at the same time, as by-the-way situation. So taking samsara as not a game or not satirical approach alone, but it's something very serious. Taking whole world as very serious seem to be important this point in our developed discussions and seminars, that we have arrived at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1566.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is that type of lubrication just in the West?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think everywhere, anywhere. In the East as well, or any kind of highly traditionally developed society, decide do something psychologically insane is be criticized and laughed at. It could be said same thing all over the country, all over the globe -- including Martians!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How do you deal with it if you, you know, if it seems so monumental? I mean, how do you get through it if you want to respect it and respect everything that went into it, but you still don't want to go along with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So what do you do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, but you respect it's so monumental situation. It's extraordinary, impressive, extraordinary documentary. And you respect it as landmark. And by doing so, then the original thing we discussed at the beginning of the seminar -- you were there? -- we begin to realize the space in those monumental things happens becomes more significant than monumental themselves. The monumental of statues -- of Liberty or whatever being built -- is a hollow monumental situation. Until you realize the monumental quality of Statue of Liberty, you don't really see the hollowness of Statue of Liberty. I mean, respecting something. In other word, whole thing is regarded as a sacred thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1685.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE NAME]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, well for example the tradition I was brought up in, now, it can get so very heavy-handed, it can pass on from father to son, father-to-son sort of process. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter] And it seems to me that it's so self-perpetuating, it has so much of its own force. I mean, it's very-- staticity is so dynamic in that sense that-- I mean, it's okay to respect it, but it just becomes a -- what do you call it? A swamp that somehow keeps on pulling people into it?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Quicksand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, it sounds like that there's monument involved-- there's no monument involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There's *no* monument involved?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Monumental creation of things. In other word, that confusion between \"this\" and \"that,\" that particular creation of society has become altogether heavy-handed. And nothing is regarded as a central point of monument.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: As central point-- I mean, well in India the whole thing is very-- as a society is very religious, anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, very.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So can't you take that as the central point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of monument, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1814.0,1906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, you were speaking about the inquisitive mind as being the little things hopping around in space. And I wondered if it were connected with the idea that in the West -- particularly, I think, in the modern West -- we think of knowledge as being very widespread, extending from one thing to another. All kinds of information, rather than going into any one thing in tremendous depth. And that is sort of a frivolous thing really, just adding that kind of knowledge, which really isn't a very important kind of knowledge. It that connected with this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah. And there's a kind of sense of purely believing in myth, rather than what is. That's precisely what I mean by believing in the monument rather than the whole area. Yeah, that's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1906.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm cynical.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But also I have a tendency to be too serious. And I can't-- don't seem to really understand what it is to have a real sense of humor. And part of my being cynical is because I want to have a sense of humor, and it comes out in cynicism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you develop your sense of humor?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you develop your sense of humor? How would you develop it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I-- [Laughter] Maybe you can't develop it. My-- is my question developing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you develop your seriousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Excuse me? How do I develop my seriousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Because I'm too attached, too worried about myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How about the space between the two? What happens there? Can you tell me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's the perspective area. It's not so much of what's happened [in terms of] \"that\" and \"this\", but what's happened in between the two situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=1965.0,2086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, I see the tradition of which you speak in our-- in the case of many of the people here, is a tradition of objectification and forced change, so that innovation is one of the consequences of that cultural tradition. If we go along with that innovation, we find ourselves with very unpleasant changes in the entire globe. Many of us are here perhaps not for a cultural trip but out of a recognition that we have to return to sources of genuine tradition that are monumental and that have some relevance to our continued existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have discussed already about the monumental thing was we are talking about monumental in the sense of solid space or hollow space, rather than *the* monumental, or *the* landmark, which goes on with the dharmakaya realm, dharmadhatu realm, which is different at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's very different from the mentality, it seems to me, from the mentality that has created the H-bomb and that is destroying the globe in terms of unbalancing ecological arrangements everywhere. I don't-- it's not a question to me of resenting this sense of tradition, so much as having to reject it out of the same source that I recognize humanity in myself. That I recognize my relation to the whole biosphere, that I recognize my relation to all living things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If I recognize my relation to all living things, I must reject a cultural tradition which destroys or tends to destroy that relatedness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's some kind of respect isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Surely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That doesn't sound cynical at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well I don't feel the cynicism, but I do have to reject what I see in the cultural tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And in other word, not being poet. You write poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what line you take about relating with world by realm of poetry? To what you said? How do you write poetry and it doesn't become solid?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I just-- well I realize as I spoke in the last-- just now, that-- and on the basis of what you've said about mandalas so far, that my conception of a poem is as one of a mandala. If that's what you mean? That it's a recognition of a bounded area, recognition of the boundary. And one of the limitations of that is that it's words. Is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so exactly. But idea of poetry from that sense becomes very hollow poetry, like holding a concretized sponge, rubber sponge, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Sponge?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That it speaks of the stone-ness or the rock-like quality of the concrete, but at same time, it fills with whole kind of space. So consequently, if you throw it in the water, it could float, rather than could sink down to the root of the pond. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2086.0,2365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, seems that, like, the tradition of the avant-garde cynicism gets to be like a tradition in itself. And you can't go to-- how do you go to the roots of that, that see the serious--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's true, like reading early poems of Ginsberg for instance, Allen Ginsberg, and a lot of the American Beatnik generation. And also lot of the theaters that have developed are making satirical remarks of the society. And particularly lot of inspirations begin to sprung up after the Vietnam war, when there's something to work as basic material. The satirical remarks or the satirical poems, they themselves are not particularly anything wrong with that at all. It's beautiful. It sees all kind of areas, all kinds of corners. It speaks beautifully. But the thing is that punctuation, goes along with that poetry, speaks of mutual embarrassment. That nobody talks about free ourselves from that particular hysterical entrapment. Then something is unsaid, goes on all the time, each time when we criticize it. That unspeakable truth becomes haunting almost -- the ghost of Washington or whatever, you know. Poets all over. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2365.0,2487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How does what you're saying today relate to exposing the hypocrisy of the samsaric mandala?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a question of acknowledging that to begin with, rather than before what we do with that. Idea seem to be is we are not advanced enough to expose it as such, as public humiliation situation. But what we're concerned is to acknowledge there *is* such things happening, digging them up from the subconscious or unconscious embarrassment, that we want to keep silent on that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2487.0,2530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Does the mandala have a historic aspect then? Forwards and backwards?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the mandala is time in its own way, so obviously future and past become the mandala.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Can we only see it going forwards?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as coming backward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Where would the viewer stand in relation to that then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nowhere. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2530.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I can't understand what you mean by frivolity is the lubricant in the samsaric mandala. I don't understand what's being lubricated.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the pejorative sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That it makes it more slippery?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, provides a slippery situation that you could sneak in and out without being caught.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: In other words, that we don't have to deal with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --the situation around it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, reality. That's true, yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2565.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Did you mean in the sense of respecting this monuments in the sense of like respecting the power of an enemy? That since so many lives have fallen to this that it's not necessarily something to just laugh off and be dismissed that frivolously, but should be respected in the sense of something that has taken so many lives, human lives, or whatever. [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's saying the same thing. It is both an irritatingly common enemy, as well as source of wisdom at the same time. Because it is landmark of \"that\" opposed to \"this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But wouldn't that-- let's say, take looking at the lawn or something, these well-manicured lawns. You can respect maybe the extent that we're all act in situations in a conditioned way and maybe whatever that might mean. But would that it all limit-- I mean, I can see how the satirical response to the situation leaves something definitely unsaid. Yet in that respect, when you have-- respecting that situation, isn't the scorn unsaid then also? I mean, your-- isn't that appropriate, your scorn for that and your distaste for it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say all of it. There's unsaid space all over it, which could be said is a stagnation from ego's point of view, ego's mandala situation. There's a space as well as there's stagnation within that space, which is worth looking at. What I've been saying is there's no solution, really, or there is solution really either. But the point is to find that area where both solution and the same situation without solution could function simultaneously. Find that space. In other word, space doesn't give birth or the death. That there is some total, totality, something happening. And that's the problem or the possibilities of samsaric mandala could function simultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2601.0,2776.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, I would like to find some space in guilt. What is the position of guilt in the mandala?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you feel terribly guilty that you've created mandala. [Laughter] At the same time, you have created that guilt, which is in itself space. Which is to say, that you never have necessarily to have create mandala. You needn't have started mandala at all. So guilt goes both ways. Guilt as base of making mistakes and the guilt as basis of working base. So nobody is punished, nobody is accepted from that point of view. I mean, the answer doesn't come very straightforward. And the answer is only food for your further understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Could you say something about fear in relation to the whole thing? What part fear plays in it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What part what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Fear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fear? Always, I think. Fear is the anti-lubrication of samsaric mind, as well as lubricator at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's related to guilt.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Because the fear is how things might happen and how things might not work. It goes both ways at the same time. It's like you have the symbolism of vajra with the ball in the middle representing space, and things going in two ends are energy of fear. That this end might work, that end might work, but possibly. Both ends are related with the central area in which that we have to give up altogether that particular trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2776.0,2926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, I'm trying to think about how the samsaric mandala is created. And it seems to me that-- is it true that the-- like, primordially the energies are completely pure and wisdoms. And that we appear on the scene and we distort the energies and harness them for our own purpose, in other words, to prove that we exist. That we try to pattern the energies. Then when we realize that we don't exist, then we can let them go through again. I mean, they just-- they go through without our trying to condition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The basic idea is being that the point of reference is, \"Who are we?\" [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter] What you mean by \"we\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, in our ignorance. Our we--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is our ignorance? What is \"our\"? Who are \"we\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That's the mistake isn't it? That's where the confusion is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But who made the mistake?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: We did. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is \"we\"? What's that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [UNCLEAR: Nothing?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What are you? Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well I experience myself as solid, so therefore that's where I get the \"we\" from. But I'm trying-- I realize that I'm really not-- there isn't any solid entity in there that's me, but I still experience myself or I act solid. [Laughter] But I mean, do-- with primordial ignorance, I mean, are we the-- [laughter] I keep saying that, are we the one way back then that said we're going to be confused with-- I mean, if we have to take responsibility for being primordially ignorant? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no committee. [Laughter] Or, for that matter, there was no non-committee, either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=2926.0,3104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, what about the situation of a person who believes completely in the strength of tradition and lives their life out in tradition, and maintains their lawn manicured, and their house, and all that? And still the whole thing works with passion, ignorance, fear, aggression, and all the entanglement keeps going, but they have no cynicism about it at all. It's dead serious.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that sounds automatically in itself is anti-tradition, not realizing what actually tradition means.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Just living.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=3104.0,3142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82197/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to stop at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[START ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, could you say something about the other two of the three lubricants you mentioned: entertainment and aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHEI think there is no point in going into great detail on those. The whole point is that they create some kind of excuse, and the way of doing that is to create a link within the space -- some kind of circulation. It is like the veins and arteries that keep up the circulation while the basic body is functioning. One can imagine how it works: all kinds of little discursive thoughts, little games going on constantly, either trying to grasp what is happening or trying to escape from it, or else trying to relax between the two. The point is that that kind of mind is going on all the time, and it is lubrication rather than a basic principle like, for example, the five basic principles that we discussed. It is intermediary in relation to all those situations. This is the case with frivolousness and a cynical attitude toward the world, toward life, toward poetry, art, and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\n[END ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=3142.0,3144.51588"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720825VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=0.64,4.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Mandala:\nthe Structure\nof Unconditioned Energy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=4.14,7.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Tail\nof the Tiger, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=7.06,9.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number five,\nheld August 25th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805#t=9.14,13.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154706/file/283805/transcript/82198/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made October 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