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Presents alternative to \"psychological materialism\" in Western society; how to give back to society as spiritual practitioners. If view society as sacred, then energy connected with work, sex, money become potent. Spiritual implications of situations in ordinary life. Long Q\u0026amp;A, with questions about [Q1] focusing on oneself or helping society; [Q4] working creatively with \"destructive\" aspects of the city; [Q9] working with karmic situation of America; [Q12] creating a different future; [Q17] working with, not undermining existing cultural situations\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 1: The Sacred Society\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 09 2026 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Eirikur Baldursson Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eQuestions idea of contemplative life as being separate from ordinary life situations of work, sex, money. Presents alternative to \"psychological materialism\" in Western society; how to give back to society as spiritual practitioners. If view society as sacred, then energy connected with work, sex, money become potent. Spiritual implications of situations in ordinary life. Long Q\u0026amp;A, with questions about [Q1] focusing on oneself or helping society; [Q4] working creatively with \"destructive\" aspects of the city; [Q9] working with karmic situation of America; [Q12] creating a different future; [Q17] working with, not undermining existing cultural situations\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-ug9vag.mpga"]},"duration":2878.58939,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/256/original/open-uri20260428-880-ug9vag.mpga?1777400219","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2878.58939,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710828VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿19710828VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 1\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk One, \"The Sacred Society\", given on August 28th, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made September 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held in August 1971 at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This will be talk number one, Saturday evening, August 28th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=26.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Listening? [Blows on microphone] [Laughter] Well, welcome to seminar on work, sex, and money. [Laughter; applause] It's quite a big undertaking, if you're going to discuss on it. Usually that is a very private thing. But we are decide to work on it, and discuss on it. And it seems that fundamentally that whole subject is based on not just purely work, sex, and money, but thing behind that. Anybody could discuss the work, anybody could discuss sex, anybody could discuss money. But somehow this particular situation that we are discussing is involved with some-- another dimension of relating with the situation of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=59.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole thing is based on that Buddhist meditation center involved with contemplative tradition, practice, are having discussion on work, sex, and money. And that particular aspect may be-- you may find very corny, and very strange. It seemed that we should transcend work and sex and money. That we have nothing to do with all those things, that we are just living contemplative life. Nobody should involve with the work because they should be living in the certain situations, whole day meditating. Nobody should involve with sex because they shouldn't have such thoughts at all in their life of meditating, their contemplative life. Far moreover that money -- or what money [laughter] -- is last thing. \"Spirituality doesn't concern with the green energy. [Laughter] Forget about money, I thought they had transcend the whole thing, and that nothing should be discussed on that subject at all.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=180.0,281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that we feel that whole thing -- work, sex, money -- is out of our range, *if* we are going to study spirituality, spiritual practice. But on the other hand... On the other hand, [laughter] that if you're not involved with work, or if you are involved with work or sex or money, then there may be something to be said about it. That is to say, everybody's not spiritual or religious at all, then obviously they have to look for work, jobs, j-o-b. [Laughs; laughter] They should work for money. They should work for-- work, not exactly work for, but they should [laughter] build their life around sex. That situation is there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=281.0,353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the question is that are we working on the spirituality or not? Are we at all or not? But then there's something else we haven't thought about it, is spirituality. What really does mean spirituality? Does that mean anything to do with our regular life, or is that something transcendental? That's questionable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=353.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spirituality could seen in two ways: worship of the spirit, or worship of the spirit of individuality. That falls in two categories. If our life situation, in other word, contribute something to society as living situation of our society as a whole, then, that we have something associated with society. We are offering something to the society. In order to relate with the society, it's not really diff-- not really easy thing to do at all. Society has no philosophical background or pattern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=401.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we find in the Western society, whole thing is based on purely take and give. Whole thing is based on psychological materialism. Society has nothing to offer, as far as we see it. But on the other hand, society has work, sex, and money involved it. From that point of view we could see something in it, because society has a different aspect, attributes. Society has the attributes of sex. Society has the attributes of money. And society has the attribute of work. From that particular point of view, we could maybe able to contribute something or work along with it. Because society is not all that dry alone, insignificant at all, particularly if we work-- if you look from the spiritual point of view. Society is very potent and has a particular energy quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=465.0,536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's why we should approach the society of psychological materialism purely from work point of view, or sex point of view, and money point of view, which is extremely potent. That's the only exit that we find, that society otherwise is an independent process without any cracks, any faults, any exits. If you could see society in terms of sex, money, and work, that we could see something through it. That there is some possibilities of working with society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=536.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole question boils down to how we could regard the whole society as sacred. Since there's so many ideas of profundity of this and that, and so on, that we might as well look into the sacredness of society. That society contains also the sacredness. And these -- work, sex, and money -- is their energy outlet, energy radiation, of the expression of society. We could work in that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=604.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I suppose tonight we needn't go into details of all these topics, but purely trying to see the basic spiritual implication within the society, spiritual implication within Madison Avenue. What is spiritual implication? What is the healthy aspect of it? What does the America mean? What does mean landing on the moon? What does it mean producing supersonic aircraft? What does all this mean, in terms of spirituality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=660.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I suppose that's very potent, that's very powerful. There's possibility that when we discuss this, such subject, I'm sure the people in society, as in the ordinary sense, wouldn't take that. That we are trying to infiltrate something into it -- some other element, ideas, some other foreign ideas into it. Nevertheless that *in itself* seems to be very important point: to see the other interpretation, the other psychedelic spiritual aspect, visionary aspect, of the society. Not only what happens, but what would be, and what is consist of. Basic quality of energy, what it contains. That's what we are looking into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=722.0,785.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might say that our discussion should be very peaceful and equilibrium. And the whole thing should be approached in a very detached way, a spiritual way, since that particular picture has been presented to the lot of people, in terms of Eastern tradition is peaceful, non-violence, gentle, genteel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=785.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Should we approach from that point of view? \"Whole thing is being good and everybody loves each other, peaceful, everything is going to be okay?\" Or should we approach from -- on the other hand -- that there is energy, nevertheless, something to work on, everything's dynamic, everything's provocative? Flashes of negatives, flashes of positives, flashes of destruction, flashes of hatred and love, happens all this big mandala spectrum. Should we approach from that angle as well? Why shouldn't we? Or should we? And that seem to be the basic point, that should our discussion in the following seminar be approached from that level or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nI should actually stop now. We could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=819.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Should we do-- should we have seminar at all or not? [Laughter] Is this too private parts?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Too what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Private parts. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: We'll see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Should we or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said that? [Laughter] Any discussions entail this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=882.0,933.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It would seem if we're discussing society that we're actually talking about ourselves again. Because I can't think of any way in taking the detached view, a sociological view of society, while still being a part of it. It's like we're on them, we're on the-- you know. And every-- and anything that's true of society, it seems to be pretty true of us. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's true, you know. [Laughter] Otherwise you wouldn't be here in society. If we're not talking about you, among society, you wouldn't be here. You wouldn't breathe the same air, you wouldn't be eating same food.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right. That makes the discussion very difficult, because it's very hard to get a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --because it almost impossible to get it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh no. [Laughter] Makes the discussion very easy. Very fluid. Very simple. Of course. [Laughter] Anything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose that the main idea is that: Are you really absolutely open to relate with society in your own personal trip, of spirituality, or are you not? Does society means anything to you, in your personal search? Or you purely wanted to attain liberation by yourself, without society? Do you really want to abandon them -- decide. You don't care about how society suffers, or they gain bliss, whatever's may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=933.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But from this viewpoint, society just seems more the natural process. It's like, just as much here as the trees. And it's what's happening to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Society is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's what's happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, when it's happening to me, yeah, it's what's happening to me. If I go into the city, the city is happening to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh no. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No. I'm happening to the city. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as city is entertaining you. City is-- Whole city becomes your guinea pig.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well -- no one scares me away from it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know they don't. But, whole city is your guinea pig, hundreds of them living everywhere–\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --meanwhile just-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It just seems to be unfolding. Like, if there's something I have to learn--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --society gives it to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It just seems to be a part of something larger. We say society, but it's part of the whole... I don't know, like, the unfolding process of just what's going down. And it seems to be, like [laughter] a two way-- I don't know if it's a two-way communication, because there's definitely a communication seems to be going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you sure about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm not sure about nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's exactly same as a doctor's relationship to their guinea pigs. They might inject things into guinea pigs, in guinea pig legs or something. They-- and it's that kind of relationship, you know. Whole city has been laughed at. Lot of people, a lot of us live in the country, or a lot of people involved with the spiritual scene, would laugh at the city. How funny, how terrible, how ironical it is. \"It's terrible thing but it's funny. I would like to step out of it, I have nothing to do with it.\" It's very uncompassionate attitude, you know. It's-- whole thing has been rejected so much. Whole city reminds you of a big display of irony, in the sick sense of irony rather than irony of its own nature. That's what bothers-- that what's makes whole spiritual scene is sickening, because spiritual scene is regarded-- the city scene is terrible thing. Failure. Human failure. Embarrassing. That's why we had to have such seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=1133.0,1317.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Do you think it's a lack of compassion, or perhaps that we are not quite able to come to grips with ourselves? The lack of compassion is that actually as long as you are more or less in a hygienic-- spiritually hygienic environment, you are sort of like a circular saw revolving only there, and nothing is really happening. But you don't know, because you haven't-- you don't-- haven't been in contact with real material. It's very hard to be in contact with the real material, because then you have to be in contact with yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. Because the whole thing is that we have certain preconceived ideas of city and we are not willing to communicate with that. And largely, that question will come up in our next discussions, of their relationship to money, their relationship to work, their relationship to sex, their relationship to parents. That the city represent money, sex, parents, work. Therefore it is a private thing. You-- we don't want to really relate with them at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But there is also a terrible, destructive -- an almost physically destructive -- quality of energy in a place like New York City, for example. It was my home for a long time. That just physically the impact of the city is very hard to take.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but that doesn't mean to say you have to run away from it--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --at all. Because there is destruction is involved, therefore there must be some creative situation involved as well. I mean that's why we're trying to work at, you know. You don't have to abandon them because they are destructive.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that's follows the whole Buddhist theory of-- story of arhat who goes to charnel ground. He picks up one human bone. He works on that, he think on that. He sees this bone come from death, this bone also come from birth, and birth come from desire, and so and so and so. Finally, until he works out this bone, whole thing come from desire, grasping, up to the point of ignorance. And he's-- he gets his message throughout a-- completely out of this bone, picking up this one particular bone. He gets his message completely out of it. He sees this twelve chain reactions of interdependent cause. He find that out, whole thing, from it.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn similarly, we could work in the same way. That we don't have to really abandon anything. But we could work on very creative situations. And New York might present you death, ultimately death. I can see that. People who have-- walking corpse, without any expressions on their face, and urban jackals. Or sirens going around with the policemen in it. [Laughter] And dry air of death all the time is being in your nose, in your mouth. And occasional way of cheering you up -- come back to our death of shop displays. Gigantic buildings be built, people being blocked in the boxes, without any air. Expression of death. Whole thing is really expression of death.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhen I first came-- Diana and myself, when we first came to New York City, first impression I got was I smelled this corpse -- human bodies, smell of bodies, corpses. First impact was that. But, that's okay! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Not me!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Perfectly okay. That's the starting point of your aspiration, all the time. It's okay. You see, the whole point is that teaching in this case is not going to be romantic or beautiful -- oh no! [Laughter] It's going to be painful, paranoid. But at the same time, we could work into something. That trying to see the essence of all these urban jackals and lion corpse and expressionless faces, and all sorts things, we could work onto that. That's part of inspirations. And the whole thing-- in other word, the whole thing is based on work, sex, and money, altogether. That nothing wrong with that at all, absolutely nothing. Just a demonstration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=1317.0,1697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, society isn't only the city, also. I mean there's-- we experience here a whole community of a rural scene, you know. And its definite set ideas also presents a certain impact, which is not entirely negligible, and-- with definite social views and all that kind of thing. I don't-- I just wonder if we are going to equate society and the city here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. We have our own style here. You-- would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: No, no, I mean in this discussion, that if it's proper to consider only the city as society? I mean there's this vast population living on the land, more or less, this rural thing, which presents a very important part of the picture also, somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's... if they are living consciously. They seem to be cop-out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I'm thinking of the people that-- the people who were born and raised and continue living in Vermont, etcetera.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, well, their goal is to involvement of society--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --be rich person and have color televisions, have a carpeted room and central heated, have lots of cars, being powerful person, along with that. Sure. Which means that fundamentally they have the fascist philosophy ingrained in them as well equally those who live in New York City, much more than. They support war in Vietnam and all sorts of things. And they're really fascist, include a lot of cowboys who supposed to enjoy the whole scene, as living life in the scene of natural contact with cows and horses and so on. But at the same time, their mentality is very much reactionist. They should step into that situation, cowboy scene, fascist scene.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, how will you reconcile that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: [Laughs] Well, I don't know. The whole attitude that I seem to have-- I mean especially, well, with regard to all these people who were not on this spiritual scene, is, you know, I feel that they're more victims that I am of the whole situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uh oh. [Laughter] Oh no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: You know, that they have no kind of a-- you know, they live with all kinds of negativity and all kinds of very difficult situations without knowing how-- even having a hint how to make that creative for themselves in a certain way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but you involved with a different situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So, my attitude, it tends to be, you know, one of how can I help?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not really that. I don't believe that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: You don't? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You want to raise above it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Probably.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not like-- no-- not like one of them. You don't want to become like them, follow them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=1697.0,1966.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And I think you have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So you-- yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --escape the paternalistic attitude of being charitable and trying to show them the light. And maybe try to understand why there are so many of them doing this? Why-- what are they appreciating so much? [Growling noise] [Laughter] Why-- what's in their trip?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's always--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE] not satisfying me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, their trip just they don't want to get into money, or sex, or work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: They don't want to get into money, sex, or work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If they could rise above it, then they could make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=1966.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that why the city is dying? Maybe because people don't want to really work, have sex, and make money? And does that contribute to the death of the society?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. But their money and sex and work is very sterile. Not potent one. It's very reproducted [sic] situation. Based on reproduction--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --of concepts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In terms of seriousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In terms of seriousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In terms of seriousness, yeah. But on the other hand, the hippies who move into the countryside, like hippies ourselves-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: The same kind of seriousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --are some kind of seriousness. Which makes that we-- money is private thing, sex is private thing, and work is private thing. That we don't want to really get involved with them, at all. We want to have something transcendental, transcend from their situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that sterility that you're talking about different than, like, the smell of death? That, you know, the sense of death that you had when you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean they don't want to have anything to do with that. History of that duality of death as being bad, and birth as being good. That kind of notion that goes on continuously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2009.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, to get away from that though, to ignore the city, doesn't that go contrary to your spirituality to, you know, the idea of the bodhisattva?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Get away from society or city?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: To ignore it. To, you know, to say, \"We're going to divor-- you know, completely void ourselves from these people in the city.\" Doesn't that become contrary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, very much so. That's why we are go-- trying to work something out here. Sure. Definitely, yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2110.0,2141.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you say that-- like the sense that you get in New York City of like-- I always get a sense when I go there of evil, you know. That's my trip. Death or whatever. It's very negative--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I understand, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --a very powerful, destructive thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You say-- you said that that could be an inspiration. I'm just wondering what you can-- you know, the city-- Okay, so the city inspires you, in a certain way. I'm just wondering what you can give back to it? I mean, if you go along with it, do-- I mean, does the city die? Does it-- is it reborn? Or, I just-- what can you give back to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well city reforms. Whole world reforms. That's what our duty. [Laughter] We had to work into the karma situation of America, to start with. Then certain reformation takes place, by natural force. Not placards or demonstrations--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --or anything. We don't work with that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, I tend to see it in black and white, you know. I tend to see a dying city like New York, and I think, \"Well, it's going to die, and *then* maybe it'll be reborn. Then something positive will happen.\" But that's [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no. I mean nobody's going to-- nothing's going to happen in very luxuriously. [Laughter] We had to work on our own inspiration, you know. Nothing is going to provide that way, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Too bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry to say. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It's all right. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2141.0,2252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But I always feel that, well, the work of course is terrible. Because it's not real work, in most instances.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Real bird? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It's not real work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Real what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Work. Work.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Work. It's not real work, in most... But I also feel that the sex and the money are also just symbols. They're not really sex, they're not really money. And I don't know what they are symbolic of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's up to you. [Laughter] That's purely up to you. Sure. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2252.0,2296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What form could this work with the city take?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't know yet. We have to work fundamental principles of their attitude. And that kind of attitude, that kind of openness, takes entirely new situation of relating with situation of the city. And then city reforms in its own way. We can't really work, \"We are-- you're going to do this and that, then therefore city must reform to us,\" at all. That the city should reform by itself. It's the only inadequacy of city, therefore the city should reform in itself, in its situation. It's very subtle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can you think of it in terms of particular people that you're working with in a city, who you have a feeling for? And is there any way of thinking in terms of working that way with particular people or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure we could, yeah. Like yourself. [Laughter] Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2296.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche? I think most of us have been brought up with the climate of coming apocalypse or total world destruction, nuclear war or famine or overpopulation. All these problems are part of our society. Are you saying then that this is a mistaken viewpoint? That there is definite hope of reversing all those?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, yes. More you're involve with that scene, more experience you have. [Aside] Excuse me. You have that, therefore you could work your situations. And the intensity brings space. More there is intensity, that much space you could bring out. Its depends on individual situation. That nothing to be ashamed of, nothing that we could-- we have to sort of forget about it about. Whole thing happens in situation like that. It could be worked its way through. And in fact, that people in this country are more aware of such situations of overpopulating and too much overpowering situation of being in the city. That in itself act as guidance, and we could work that way through. Definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2387.0,2506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You mean-- are you-- like there's a job and there's a future we're looking towards? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It seems-- are you talking-- are you saying that we have a job, and there's a future, and we're going to bring about something different in the future?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Of course, yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Of course, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2506.0,2536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, how can the inspiration that society provides show you what real work and real sex and -- what's the other?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Money!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: *Money*. Real money! [Laughter] Yeah. How can the inspiration-- I mean, where's the connection?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [Speaking Latin] E pluribus unum.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Connection, did you say? Connection is within *that*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Within the inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Within money, within sex, within -- what was the other? [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2536.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well when you-- [laughter] When you talk about the future, whose future?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When you talk about bringing about some other future, I'm not clear whose future it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whose future?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody's.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Nobody's. Ha ha ha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know that anyway. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2580.0,2608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is there any point in trying to become friends with the cowboys and the cops, [laughter] and to forget about how they could reform themselves into good people like us? [Laughter; applause] I mean, with friends, isn't that one thing you throw away, is how they can reform themselves? Sort of? In friendship? You sort of just appreciate the way your friend is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can relate with the cowboys and the cops, sure. They are the source of inspirations, definitely. They're beautiful people. Unique. [Laughter] Sure. We could work with them. And at some certain stage we can't really escape not working with them; they just come in our way. [Laughter] Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2608.0,2683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It would seem that we have to transcend our cultural values to deal with our culture. Like, I was raised up here in the country. Even further up, up in Maine. And there are a lot of values up there that I was raised with that I constantly have to deal with anywheres I go into the city. Because it was such a strong, religious, protestant, puritanical thing. Like, I still cringe any time I see somebody drink. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I mean, that that is-- no, that we have to-- we all have cultural values of one type or another that... Like my-- I think mine are relatively obvious to me because they're so much different than the urban people that I deal with and live with. And so they're constantly thrown up on me, what I've been psychologically drummed into since childhood is to-- an ethic value structure. But I think we have to transcend all of our cultural values in order to look at the culture.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Including the idea of what we're going to do for it. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the whole point. Then you see--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --we've been so busy doing something for it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's our point, that's whole point. That we don't want to undermine any cultural situations, because they provide a kind of focal point, relational point. And therefore, we will work with them. If you work with them, and their evaluation, then we begin to realize their inaccurate evaluation of their situation, or the accuracy. Doesn't matter. Somehow work along with that. The whole thing becomes very clear. The evaluation doesn't have to be the basic landmark, but relative landmark. Any evaluation become relative landmark. They could become relative landmark, and-- as it goes. There we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2683.0,2853.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93270/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Long beeping sound] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should end, at this point. [Laughter] Have a good dream. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Goodnight. Have a good dream.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2853.0,2878.58939"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710828VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=1.0,3.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled\nWork, Sex, Money II,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=4.03,10.093"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Karme\nCholing in Barnet, 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Definitely, yeah.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2134.76,2139.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Rinpoche,\nyou say that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2141.64,2145.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like the sense that you get\nin New York City of like--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2145.38,2149.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I always get a sense\nwhen I go there of evil,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2149.23,2151.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know. That's my trip.\nDeath or whatever.\nIt's very negative--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2151.67,2154.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I\nunderstand, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2154.13,2155.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: --a very powerful,\ndestructive 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How can the inspiration--\nI mean, where's the connection?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2551.88,2557.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: [Speaking Latin]\nE pluribus unum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2557.3,2560.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Connection,\ndid you say?\nConnection is within *that*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2560.83,2565.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Within the inspiration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256#t=2565.74,2566.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169609/file/308256/transcript/93271/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\nWithin money, within sex,\nwithin -- what was the other?\n[Laughs; 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